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DuQuense
May 25th, 2007, 08:56 AM
1496
with out the support of the Delphi Sultanates [which felll to the Rajputs] to the north the Deccan Sultanates are defeated by Tuluva Narasa Nayaka the Supreme General and Regent, under Narasimha Raya II of the Saluva Dynasty.
1498
Vasco Da Gama arrives in Calicut, India
They arrived in Calicut on 20 May 1498. Sometimes violent negotiations with the local ruler (usually anglicized as Zamorin), the Wyatt Enourato ensued, in the teeth of resistance from Arab merchants. Eventually Gama was able to gain an ambiguous letter of concession for trading rights, but had to sail off without warning after the Zamorin insisted da Gama leave all his goods as collateral. Vasco da Gama kept his goods, but left a few Portuguese with orders to start a trading post.
1500
Pedro Álvares Cabral finding that those at the trading post had been murdered, and encountering further resistance, bombarded Calicut and sailed south of Calicut to reach Cochin,a small kingdom where he was given a warm welcome.
He also brought back silk and gold to prove he had been to India once again.
1501
following the collapse of the Deccan Sultanates north of the Empire the Empire had sent troops north to resolve some border issues. in the west this brought the border to Mumbaiand followed Mountain ridges and the Rivers [Godavari] and other defense able landmarks east. in 1501 the Empire began constructing a series of forts along the new border.
1502
Vasco da Gama returns to India with a fleet of 20 ships. When the King [Zamorin] in Calicut refuses to honor the trade agreement, da Gama proceeds to force him.
Vasco da Gama waited for a ship to return from Mecca, and seized all the merchandise; they then locked the 380 passengers in the hold and set the ship on fire. It took four days for the ship to sink, killing all men, women, and children.
He then smashed a Calicut fleet of twenty-nine ships.
When da Gama returned to Calicut on October 30, 1502 the Zamorin was willing to sign a treaty. He then extracted favorable trading concessions from the Zamorin.
1502
Several thousand shipyard workers from south India and the Maldives move to Ethiopia to work in the new shipyards being built there.
1503
Viranarasimha Raya becomes Regent .
1503
The empire watching Raja Jagannath, drive south to the Godavari River steps up the building of it's fortifications along the south bank of the river.
1505
Narasimha Raya II of the Saluva Dynasty dies without Heir.
Viranarasimha Raya becomes Emperor founding the Tuluva Dynasty.
1509
Viranarasimha Raya is killed while putting down a revolt , His Half brother Krishna Deva Raya becomes Emperor.
1510
Portuguese establish the Dominion of India in Goa.
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Extent of the empire in 1510
The territory north of Bombay, is very lightly held, and with the continued influx of Muslim refugees from Rajputana, all five Deccan Sultanates, are very violable.
DuQuense
September 16th, 2007, 07:34 PM
Quotes are Portuguese actions that the Empire is reacting to
1510
De Gama takes possession of Goa, from the Vijayanagara Empire. He makes it the capitol of the State of India.
The Emperor considers a few trading ports of no consequent, even if the Portuguese run them as a unified group.
1513
A large fort is build upon a port that has been purchased from the king of the Kotte [kingdom in the south of Sri Lanka -one of five on the Island] kingdom in exchange for guns and weapons. The King begins brutally unifying his kingdom under his sole control, with Portuguese aid.
1515
the Kingdom of Tamil asks for help in it's war with the Kingdom of Jaffa on the Island of Seridip
1516
The Empire has conquered the Kingdom of Jaffa. [northern most kingdom of Sri lanka
1517
The Empire grants the Champas trading rights in a few East coast cities.
1519
Alfonso de Albuquerque is reinstated as the Viceroy of India. Thousands of Portuguese soldiers head out with him, a true military force instead of the usual dribs and drabs of soldiers trickling in.
---Remembre Soldiers are expensive. Fredrick the Great in the 1770 had less than 60,000 of them.-----
1521
De Albuquerque returns to India, resuming his Viceroy duties.
The King of the Kotte accepts a Portuguese advisor. The Portuguese expand their base in Kotte and help put down rebellions and revolts.
1522
Kilwa rises up in rebellion, but is brutally put down. The city is nearly depopulated by the end of the year. Instead hundreds of Indian slaves and workers are imported to work the mines and textile factories.
Advisors close to the Emperor are beginning to take a hard look at Portuguese actions, The use of Indian Workers as Slaves alarms lots of them.
1524
The Empire moves south from Jaffna and attacks the Tamil kingdom along the NE coast.
1525
The Portuguese base in Kotte expands as the Kotte begins invading it’s neighbors to the east.
1526
The defenses of Goa are renovated.
1527
The Kingdom of Kotte manages to defeats the Kingdom of Kandy. Portuguese trained Indian engineers and builders begin work on the new capitol of the Empire of Kotte. The first plantations are set up in Kotte.
Lots of Imperial Engineers visit Kotte, to inspect the fortifications being built. Some take work with the Natives to learn more.
1528
The Island of Seridip is now divided into a Indian [Tamil] NorthWest around to the east, A Portuguese[Sinhalese] SW around to the East, and a small Independent Sinhalese Kingdom occuping the wild rugged Highlands in the centre of the Island.
1529
Champas traders in Kandy, object to the Portugese Monopoly, and move north to the Indian controlled parts, dispite the Tamils being Hindus, instead of Buddists like the Sinhalese.
1530
Champas Traders along the Indian east coast carry the complaiats of their fellow traders to the Mainland where they reach the ears at Court.
these include the Portuguese ruthlessness in Seridip, plus extreme ruthlessness in the Spice Islands, wher the Portuguese are destroying traditional Native Trading relations that have lasted hundreds of years.
1531
The Vijayanagara Empire begins a reorganization Of it's military to bring the Army under tighter Imperial Control, and to reflect the lessons learned from the Portugese and others over the past 30 years.
1532
The Vijayanagara Empire begins rebuilding the Navy to reflect the lessons learned from the Portugese and others over the past 30 years.
DuQuense
July 18th, 2008, 04:23 AM
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Elidor
July 18th, 2008, 04:26 AM
Interesting TL. Somebody already wanked the Mughals... so Vijayanagar deserves a wankage too.
DuQuense
July 19th, 2008, 03:56 AM
1529
Achyuta Deva Raya . the younger brother of Krishna Deva Raya, Becomes Ruler of the Vijayanagara Empire of South India.
He is a lot less trusting of the Portuguese than his brother was.
1534
Crown Prince Pero da Covilhã Arrives in India, on a diplomatic visit.
1535:
Starting from their territory in Yemen, a Carpathian expedition founds a trading post in northern Ceylon. Sarah and Christian declare that New Bucureşti, the name of the trading post, will be jointly administered by the Carpathians and the Ottomans.
1535
While the Emperor of the Vijayanagara Empire was not all that concerned about European or Asian Traders, Having the Ottoman Empire seeking to establish a Trade enclave, in Vijayanagara territority was something else.
As Crown Prince Pero da Covilhã leaves India He is accompanied by a Deligation of Envoys, travelling to the Ottoman Empire to discuss Various issues.
Tom Veil
July 21st, 2008, 01:08 AM
Interesting TL. Somebody already wanked the Mughals... so Vijayanagar deserves a wankage too.
I think you read the timeline wrong. There are no Mughals ITTL: Babur took over the Timurid Empire instead of conquering India. I'd hardly call that wankage.
DuQuense
July 22nd, 2008, 04:08 AM
Rough Idea of the Borders in 1540
except Pondicherry is Portuguese, in ATL
Tom Veil
July 22nd, 2008, 05:20 PM
Rough Idea of the Borders in 1540
except Pondicherry is Portuguese, in ATL
Two problems with your maps: you appear to have Vijayanagara taking over most of Orissa and all of Berar, without having posted any events showing how Vijayanagara pulled it off. On the maps you & I posted for 1510 (http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1099865&postcount=41) and 1530 (http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1256189&postcount=107), we represent them as independent.
DuQuense
July 23rd, 2008, 04:55 AM
1496
with out the support of the Delphi Sultanates [which felll to the Rajputs] to the north the Deccan Sultanates are defeated by Tuluva Narasa Nayaka the Supreme General and Regent, under Narasimha Raya II of the Saluva Dynasty.
If you look at the Map in post one, Berar is north of the Colored areas. But I will give you Orissa.
My border should be the Godaveri River. NOT the Muhanuddy. But I do claim the East most tributary headed North to the Nerbudda.
Glen
July 27th, 2008, 10:09 PM
Two problems with your maps: you appear to have Vijayanagara taking over most of Orissa and all of Berar, without having posted any events showing how Vijayanagara pulled it off. On the maps you & I posted for 1510 (http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1099865&postcount=41) and 1530 (http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1256189&postcount=107), we represent them as independent.
If you look at the Map in post one, Berar is north of the Colored areas. But I will give you Orissa.
My border should be the Godaveri River. NOT the Muhanuddy. But I do claim the East most tributary headed North to the Nerbudda.
Once you two figure out the borders, maybe we could get a map?
DuQuense
August 25th, 2008, 05:06 AM
This is why I think I have control of the Deccan Sultanates
1496
with out the support of the Delphi Sultanates [which felll to the Rajputs] to the north the Deccan Sultanates are defeated by Tuluva Narasa Nayaka the Supreme General and Regent, under Narasimha Raya II of the Saluva Dynasty.1501
following the collapse of the Deccan Sultanates north of the Empire the Empire had sent troops north to resolve some border issues. in the west this brought the border to Mumbaiand followed Mountain ridges and the Rivers [Godavari] and other defense able landmarks east. in 1501 the Empire began constructing a series of forts along the new border.Extent of the empire in 1510
The territory north of Bombay, is very lightly held, and with the continued influx of Muslim refugees from Rajputana, all five Deccan Sultanates, are very violable.
But lets make it official
1541
Achyuta Deva Raya begins Rebuilding and expanding the Cities in the Delta of the Godaveri River
1542
30 years of instability, caused by Refugees from Rajputana, explodes, as the Deccan Sultanates, nominally independent, but subordinate to the Vijayanagara Empire Collapse.
Emperor Achyuta Deva Raya, Begins moving Troops north & west towards the Muhanuddy River.
In the Forefront are most of the Portuguese Mercenaries. The Emperor sees this as a good chance to see how his reorganized Army Behaves.
1544
Vijayanagara begins building a new line of Fortifications along the Muhanuddy River.
1545
Emperor Achyuta Deva Raya declares that the Nerbudda in the west and the Muhanuddy in the East are the natural Border of the Vijayanagara Empire and Invites Rajputana to handle any farther problems north of there.
1546
A cease fire is arranged with the remaining independent kingdom on Sri Lanka [Kandy], Allowing the Kandy To concentrate on defending it's self from the Kingdom of Kotte and the Portuguese.
Tom Veil
August 25th, 2008, 02:58 PM
I was just annoyed that, based on my own personal interpretation, you were reneging on a prior map. But that interpretation was set in my mind 11 months ago when the map was first posted, and it's silly to fight over what our combined mental states were 11 months ago. If anything, it just shows that 1493 is beyond revival.
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