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DuQuense
July 17th, 2004, 06:49 PM
A Thread to expand the World your ISOT Came From.
What happened there, when the Empty World ISOT appeared in place of............

Leej
July 17th, 2004, 08:40 PM
I was thinking of posting something similar this after we got started. e.g. WI our Germany suddenly appears in a nazi world (assuming the germany in mosaic earth is a nazi one)

DuQuense
July 18th, 2004, 01:52 AM
This is what I was think would be ISOTed into the Left behind world..


OTL in 77,000 BP ??? the Volcano Sumutra exploded, touching off world wide ecological disasters. It is estimated that 90% of the human race perished.

ATL The explosion was so great that the human race went extinct within 100 years of the event.
With No Native humans the ASB's [us] decided to run a Experiment , Unfortunally there were not enought ASB's interested so several areas were left as they were.

this means that they are basically in a state of nature, with no humans. Instead, Cave Bears, Mastadons, Sloths, Sabertooth Cats, Roam the Primival Forests. And with no Whaling to kill off the Pods, the Sperm and Blue Whales would still be plentiful mid Ocean. ?Conflict between the Anti Whaling Eco's and the pro Whaling Cultures?.

If You Like this Idea I have a Left Behind Story. What happened in the World My peice was Isoted From.

DuQuense
July 18th, 2004, 03:21 AM
Monday-Nov -6 -2005-Presidential Office -Montgomery-D.D.- President William Gore sat behind his desk, working on his upcoming Speech. tomorrow would be election day, and Traditionally the CS president gave a Simple pre-election speech summing up his six years in Office. But Oh how Different this One would be.

First there Was the Hindu Terrorists and their Flying that cargo plane full of explosives into the Parliament Building, back on 4 11 2000. The whole world was changed by the subsequent War on Terrorism. Endless debates and Meeting tightening up National Security at home and Abroad. Fortunally all the members of NADO* had been able to work together to put a unified response together.

Them had come that incredible Sunday, July - 25th- 2004- The day the Confederate States had "Lost" two States , A eight Million population City, and the largest Naval Base in the Country. But the CS had not been the only one. The Empire of Mexico had lost Chihuahua and Sonora States, along with one of It's Pacific Naval Bases. And the Pacific Republic had lost the whole State of California.

And what had replaced it, a whole new piece of land, As far as any one has been able to determine never before touched by Humans. The Conferacy had been able to talk the Republic into selling a new strip 100 miles wide, along the old fifty. Most of the new had been designated a national wilderness area. With, Cave Bears & Saber tooth Cats, plus some Animals never before known.

While the sites of Mines and other resources were known the settlement of the new Land was proving a Boom time for the Ecomoncy. and oh, what it was doing for the Scienceists.

Yes while it had been exciting, all in all it had been a good six years.

G.Bone
July 18th, 2004, 03:42 AM
In the late 1830's the UK annexed Hawaii due to some argument over some minor subject manner. When Queen Victoria heard this, she immediately ordered the restoration of the Hawaii's independence, as well as some financial/military compensation. This revolutionized the way that the native Hawaiians thought of the Western Powers/Culture, and immediately set forth in modernizing their way of government/military. Fast forward to the late 1890's. Due to the increased presence of American citizens that were interested in plantations as well as going off to to their 'territory' of Japan [which had been annexed in the assault against American personnel in the late 1870's], several prominent American businessmen decided to throw a coup against the Hawaiian government and declare it America. This idea was good on concept but not on paper, for while the simple overthrowing of the monarchy went smooth, the pacification of the Hawaiian miltary was not. Over a span for two years, the native Hawaiian troops carried on a successful guerilla war that essentially forced the surrender of the 'Republic of Hawaii'. This sent a lot of signals to Washington DC, which had a very long period of discussion between the two cities on what exactly to do with American foreign policy in the Pacific. The discussions were finally ended with the ratification of the Restoration Treaty (1896/7) and the adoption of using a 'kinder' approach to areas that America was interested in.

This alteration of foreign policy soon lead the US into becoming very involved with China, Latin America, as well as Europe itself, due to World War 1 starting up very early due to a 'revolution' of sorts happening in the UK on the matter of giving rights to the lower economic classes. By the time 1928 had rolled around, much of Central America, Columbia, Venzuela, [the entirely of] Japan, and parts of China had been properly ratified in the United States as 'protectorate-nations states'. This increasing of American territory around the world soon alarmed other Western nations that they were being beaten to the punch by this upstart nation. So, the European Union was formed by the Socialist Republic of Russia, the Imperial Republic of Great Britian* [which was turning socialist due to the revolution starting more revolutions*], and the Western Alliance [Hungary, Croatia, Croatia, Solvenia, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic].

However, this sort of ran into complications due to the rise of Facist Italy and the Barvarian Republic [Germany had been split into four nations; much of the north had been adoped into the IRGB*, the east going on independent now and being chummy with the Low Countries] in their quest of actually being a great and mighty empire. France soon joined their quest, and World War 2 started with horrific results. America, just recently coming out of a depression itself [and re-organizing itself to being the American Union of States, due to the increased involvement by members from the 'nation-states' of Japan, Mexico, etc] wasn't too quite involved with this war as it had been in World War 1. However, this came to an abrupt end due to the surprise attack at Tokyo Bay by an unknown Chinese terrorist group that wanted their freedom from the 'ugly Americans' [blah blah blah], and was going to affiliate themselves with the 'Axis Powers'.

World War 2 dragged on for 10 years with much of China being ....'freed'...by the AUS, much of France/Germany getting it's arse kicked by the Allied Powers, and Australia declaring it's indepence from the IGRB- then declaring war on the AUS in the idea that they were getting a wee bit too close to home [due to the 'freeing' (again) of Indonesia, in the idea that the terrorists might strike there, and that the Dutch seem to be doing a really bad job at admnistering this little colony...]. Much death and mayhem went on until much of the representatives from the nation-states of the AUS made a very loud cough on the nasty imperialistic turn that the AUS was taking in the war.

Peace was declared in 1947 with Indonesia being let off, a stronger amendment in the AUS consitution being ratified on more power as assigned to the nation-states [which by this time had consisted of nearly ALL of Central America and South America with the exception of Argentina/Chile/Peru which had founded their own alliance to oppose the AUS enroaching in South America']. However much of the European War was still going on with France still fighting the onslaught of the Allied Powers in the hopes of ending the stupid war. The war ended in August of 1948 with the nuclear bombardement of Paris and Leon by both Russian and IRGB planes. Not soon after, Paris surrendered to Allied forces.
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The 1950's was a decade of reconstruction. What remained of France became a protectorate of both Russian and IGRB forces. This duty soon fell to the Western Federation due to the IRGB's own internal economic and social problems. Russia followed this same path in 1956, with a three year civil war breaking out between the army and the government.

For the Western Federation, it was a time of prosperity. Countries such as Italy, Turkey, and Greece soon joined the organization for stability during the post-war years. Then there were the African colonies that WF forces had guarded during the war, which also joined the WF. By 1958, the Western Federation was the second biggest and diverse country in the world.

For the AUS, it was a time of great upheavel. Those Americans that did not like the the nation-states dominanting their way of government quickly fled to China, in hopes of it being their 'promised land'. Those that stayed benefited to the dependency that the IGRB/Russia/France had in reconstructing their economies.
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By the 1960's, France had regained it's independence as a free and sovereign nation. The IGRB had dissolved into the United Kingdom, loosing Ireland in the process. Russia split into three different nations in 1959, re-uniting in 1963, and lost much of it's Baltic States and Belarus to the Western Federation. Mozambique declared it's independence in 1965, bouyed by the massive amounts of French refugees that had immigrated in the Post-War years. China started it's space program in 1966, launching the first satillite in 1968. The AUS ratified both Vietnam as it's 32st nation-state.

...and a Cold War emerged between China/Australia and the AUS over the matter on who controlled the most assests in making a thermo-nuclear bomb.

Landshark
July 19th, 2004, 05:25 PM
I've been thinking this over for a couple of days. Quite a few of these nations are nuclear powers and some are engaged in cold war style situations, my Australia for one, so it's possible that the mosaicing could set off a nuclear war.

"Mr President half the country has just dissapeared!"

"It's the Godless Pinko Commies. Nuke the SOBs!"

That scenario could play out on either the Left Behind Earths or on Mosaic Earth itself depending on where the capital is.

Imajin
July 19th, 2004, 06:46 PM
Hm, well the situation in North America might be hurt.. Most of the SRA would be intact, only without it's seat of government, so there would likely be a war over control of that country... the United States of America might try to seize territory lost in the Civil War, while Mexican Nationalists would try to recreate the Republic of Mexico. Alaska might decide to take advantage of the wars in North America to seize parts of the still weak North American Povincial Authority , and the United Republics of Central America could try to take British Honduras.. So basically we have all of North America enbroiled in a large-scale war.. Of course, perhaps we should be thankful that no nation in the reigon has nuclear missiles? (Though NAPA still has strong ties to nuclear power Britan...) I might put some timeline of the "Post-Mosaic" situation in the SR-World...

Meanwhile, Corsica was a minor country anyway, though the British may not like losing their military bases in Sardinia.

Landshark
July 19th, 2004, 08:23 PM
Just some idle doodling on countries from Australia's TL:

Oceanic League membership:

Kingdom of Britannia
Iberian Empire
Empire of Franco-Gallia
Kingdom of Scandinavia
Republic of Novgorod
Hellenic Empire
Kingdom of Egypt
Persian Empire
Empire of Japan
Dominion of Australia
Republic of Arcadia
Dominion of Nova Scotia
Commonwealth of Oregon
Federation of Britannic East Africa
Confederation of Brazil
Confederation of Lusitania

Imajin
July 19th, 2004, 09:08 PM
I just realized that the earlier post of mine likely made little sense to some of you, so I'll try to give some information on the North American countries... From top to bottom, as that's easiest...

Alaska: The Russians never sold Alaska to the US, and after the defeat of the British in 1899, extended their claims across the OTL Yukon and Northwest Territories. Later, after the breakup of the USSR, many communists fled to Alaska, which, because of it's smaller population, also had less anti-communists.

NAPA: NAPA was one of many political organizations set up by the mouldering British Empire by the Home Rule Act. Unlike IPPA (India-Pakistan Provinical Authority), it has become popular, though the government is quite weak, and is only important for it's state as a block between the Communists of Alaska and the Capitalists of America

The United States of America:
As the Long War continued, the country has a near-dictatorship ran by the Republicans. Finally, after the end of the War, Democrats strode into the government, which has become increasingly isolationist. However, the country has a strong sense of national pride, and still hasn't really accepted the Southern Republic of America's independence, even though it has been allied with the SRA for quite some time.

The Southern Republic of America:
See other thread

The United Republics of Central America
A weak confederation of Central American nations, founded after Mexico's collapse to protect Central America from invasion from the SRA and USA.

Also, I have a rough map... it probably has some stupid things about it... Dark blue was transported.

Diamond
July 19th, 2004, 09:52 PM
This is a map of the world Kirghiz came from; as you can see, they lost about a third of their territory in the Mosaic Event, including a heavily populated strip in the Hindu Kush and Tien Shan Mts., and the Caucasus territory.

Leej
July 19th, 2004, 10:26 PM
Here is the different nations of the commonwealth from NA.
It is mainly New England being transported so I'm thinking it could just become New England and thats that though a major part of Canada is coming along as might a small piece of Virginia.

http://img8.exs.cx/img8/4787/comon.gif

G.Bone
July 20th, 2004, 07:45 AM
Here is the TL from the Republic of Columbia and the GFR

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'Posperous Mexico"

In this TL, the Mexican Revolution did not occur due to Zapata being not refused in reclaiming land as occupied by another party. There was also the added POD that Diaz being more liberal towards the end of his last presidential term, thereby helping to usher Mexico into first world status in the late 1910's and early 1920's. This really threw off US foreign policy as other Latin American countries began to follow Mexico's path and trying to find their own road to first world status. In 1925 the Organization of American States was founded amongst Argentina, Brazil, Chile, and Mexico in order to help to safeguard their fragile economic status. [which was in full swing due to World War 1 and it's aftermath]

As a result of OAS becoming the local powerhouse, the US became more aggressive in it's foreign policy [in the idea that they could find other avenues of income than depending on illegal labor from S. America]. World War 1 happened on schedule with the US annexing much of the Pacific colonies that Germany had, as well as to increase it's investment in China. This started another rivarly with Japan that led to more US 'advisors' to appear in China to protect their investment, which gave reason to a Pacific War occuring in the late 1938/9. [The Great Depression ocurred only for 5 years with the OAS stepping in to help it's northern neighbor. Nethertheless, this really humbled the US that they were now dependent on the country that they had once treated like dirt.]

The turmoil that started World War 2 never really started off due to the heavy dependence that Europe had on the OAS powers. In it's stead, there were several 'socialist' revolutions that occured in Germany, Italy, and Spain that forced the Allied Powers to form a "Peacekeeping Force" in order to stop dicatorships from happening. However, such revolutions did have a cost with Russia reformatting itself into a Consitutional Democracy that had desires of lumping much of Eastern Europe within their new republic. This lead to a 10 year long Cold War with the European Union [consisting of all W. European countries] being founded in order to combat any 'annexation' that Russia had beyond Hungary/Yugoslavia. Luckily, the OAS stepped in 1951 to stop the Cold War from continuing because it was endangering it's interests in Africa and Asia.

By the year 2004, much of the OAS has become a respected international organization with huge financial/agricultural/commercial reserves. In response to this, the US has become a shadow of it's former self, and mainly depends on the OAS and Canada in solving it's increasing spat of economic crises. Europe is mainly either socialist democracies or consitutional monarchies. This is the same to Africa and Asia, which is being assisted by the OAS to help gain first world status. There has been some talk of actually founding a United Nations, but most people regard the OAS as the main group to solve their problems.

Fun Facts:

The universal language in this world is South American Spanish, followed by a "Pidgin" Spanish [which is a combination of it and English].

New Mexico, Arizona, and California formally succeded from the US had was accepted in the OAS in the late '50's due the chaos that came from the Second Great Depression. This caused the Second Mexican War, which the US was forced to sign a humbling treaty that allowed to the succesion of their states to Mexico. As a result, there has been sharp division in the US on whether or not a wall should be erected around the "Lost" States.

New Mexico, Florida*, California, and Texas are regarded as the "Northern States" and posses greater rights than the rest of Mexico due to the situation of having these lost lands returned.

There is a current immigration problem that the US has with these "lost states" with much of it's population west of the Mississippi immigrating to either Mexico/Canada.

Japan is regarded as a territory of the US, but functions more or less on it's own.

China has become the "land of oppertunity" for Americans due to the turmoil that they face in North America. As a result, much of China has rose to first world status, and has been recognized as a strong contender to the "Big Brother" role, which is currently being held by Australia.

Much of the religion in this world is fairly liberal with terrorist attacks virtually unheard of, if you do not live in the Middle East, which is currently in chaos with various states that rebelled against the former Ottoman Empire and the successor state of that Empire, Turkey. [which still rules over Syria and Lebannon.]

George Lucas has just recently spun out his latest historical flic that covers the history of the revered "President Zapata". Rumor is that it will achieve even more success than his previous blockbuster, "Menem".

North of the Border, the most popular book is "America Triumphant", which spins the tale of America being the one holding the power and not the OAS. The writer, Dean Kootz, is currently writing the sequel "America Triumphant: Southern Assests". Rumor is that this book will cover a hypothetic 'coup' that forces much of South America into controllable military dictatorships.

*Florida was also annexed in the Second Mexican War. Florida currently holds a population 60% Caribbean 20% African, 10% Asian, and 10% "Americanos". Miami is considered to be third capital of movie making, followed by LA, and Mexico City.

Imajin
July 20th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Joeson Jeguk's world:
The Nazi Empire, led from a secret location by a group of "Hitlerites" who fled Berlin, is gradually falling apart. The Nazi Client States basically run themselves, and Spain has become the first European Nation to become independent.
Meanwhile, the British Empire, though it has lost Britain itself, is currently the second-most powerful nation in the world. However, it is not a Jeguk ally by any means: It wants the Jeguk to give up India and it's claims to australia, and will likely seize those areas after Pyongyang dissapears.
The United States of America absorbed the Nazi puppet state of Mexica, but other than that is mostly isolationist, still afraid of what it did in ruining Europe.
"Dependent States" in the Jeguk are basically independant, but must follow guidelines set up for the Jeguk, and agree to not run their own military, but in return they get access to the Jeguk Army to defend themselves, and get free trade with Jeguk.
Portugal and Liberia are the only two nations left. Liberia has descendended into near-anarachy, with the government powerless, while Portugal has turned inward, closing it's borders and ports.
The "areas affected by US bombs" are not definite, and radioactive dust thrown into the air affected a much wider area.

Diamond
July 20th, 2004, 07:07 PM
Hey Imajin, how'd you do that awesome-looking fade effect on your map?

Tetsu
July 22nd, 2004, 03:11 AM
http://img26.exs.cx/img26/503/legonat2.gif
---- a map of Iceland's world

Iceland's world effectively diverged from our own in the year 732, on a battlefield in southern France. Frankish commander Charles Martel catches an arrow in the neck, one that in our world, missed him by a foot. The rest of the battle went downhill for the Franks from there, and the Muslims under Abd-ar-Rahman triumphed after the long fight. The Muslim grip on Iberia, and soon all of France, was tightening. Christian strongholds in al-Andalus and al-Firanja are all but destroyed before 1000 AD.

This Muslim push further into Europe through the West leads to a Byzantine alliance with the Rus and a truimph over the Turks. The Byzantine Empire also finds a strong ally in the Holy Roman Empire, and the two kingdoms join forces against Dar al-Islam, advancing from almost all sides.

The Norse become a military force when they attack Lindisfarne in 793, an Anglo-Celtic missionary on the coast of Britain. The Norse swiftly become the most powerful naval and exploratory force in Europe for a time, establishing rule over Iceland, Greenland, Vinland, and the Baltic tribes of Estonia and Finland and others. They do manage to keep Vinland (North America) secret from others for 500 years. In the early 1000's, Norse king Olaf Tyrgvason consolidated his rule, freed the British Isles from Muslim rule, and sent colonization fleets to Vinland and elsewhere, and for a time the Norse's power was in the wealth of Vinland.

The Norse naval hegemony was unseated by China in the fifteenth century with the emergence of the Ming dynasty. They created massive fleets and sailed to Africa, Europe, and more importantly, the New World. Trading alliances were established with the Aztec Empire, who modernized with Chinese assistance. They discovered Australia and established rule over the island continent (while India did manage to slice a strip of the western coast). Ming China does not follow the isolationist path due to the powerful Muslim kingdoms around it (Muslim India, Samarkand).

The Aztecs launch onto the world stage in the 1530's, when they defeat an Andalusi army hell-bent on bringing Mexico into Dar al-Islam. After their humiliating defeat, the Muslims contact the Incan Empire and convert the emperor, rather than attempting to engage them in warfare. The Muslim Incan Empire and the Aztec Empire become rivals from then on out.

(Other nations to colonize the Americas is Byzantine colonies in OTL Virgina, Andalusi colonies in OTL Deep South, and the Ghanaese colony that is, in our world, Brazil.)

From the discovery and colonization of America, the nations of the world engage in frequent warfare and technological advancement. There have been three Global Wars, usually with the alliance of Dar al-Islam and those opposing. Islam failed in the First GW, triumphed in the next, and was humiliated in the Third. The world is still dangerous, because there have been no attempts at world unity and peace, such as OTL's United Nations. The end of the 20th century saw military rivalries extend into space, with sattellite-based laser and pulse weaponry. Tensions are still taut, but the number of flashpoints that could lead to war have slowly lowered over time. This world could see peace within the 21st century.

G.Bone
July 22nd, 2004, 07:04 PM
whoops! pasted the OAS stuff with the UAS map. Anyhow, here is the OAS map.

http://www.alternatehistory.net/discus/messages/40/5707.gif

tom
July 23rd, 2004, 04:02 PM
For a sequence of maps as Mithras evolved, see http://www.alternatehistory.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=160 and you can get probably more detail than all but a few TLs on this site.
Castro is less important to see what is going on...few if any people in the transported area know what is happening 100 kilometers away, much less on the other side of the world. The leading nations long kept away from fear of contamination, and now the people on the border of the Abyss (which is quite a ways away from any part of the transported zone) just focus on containing the chaos. Overflights are rare, and noone goes there on foot. The Abyss is slowly shrinking as fringe areas are gradually re-integrated into Civilization, but this is not realized yet in EU 19...they think the whole planet is like they are (unless they saw an overflight, which are generally less well believed than UFOs in OTL, since nobody likes to think that somebody else is better off).

Diamond
July 27th, 2004, 01:12 AM
Here's a world map from the TL Hispaniola came from. It's hard to see, but England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland are all independent nations. No more Great Britain in this TL. :)

Justin Pickard
July 30th, 2004, 11:37 AM
Well here is a map of the Europe that Austro-Hungary (Eu14) left behind. As you can see, most of the country itself was left behind - with only the eastern half ISOTed.

WngMasterD
July 30th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Confederation of South Sea Islands' Last moments

**French space Craft Nice**

'Nice': Permission to land CSSI?

CSSI Space Traffice control: Roger, approch to runway 090 Nice.

'Nice': Verywell, makingway to runway 090, landing in about 10...9...8

*Blue static appers around the spaceport, it vanishes, only a small atoll is visable about a mile away*

...7... What the **** where did it go. Traffic control do you copy do you copp--=-=--=-=-= Cant recover -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= Taking on wat-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mayday mayday mayday!

CSSI Traffic Control: Nice? Nice? do you copy? Do you copy? Looks like we lost them, they were just there. Oh well, they were only French...

DuQuense
August 1st, 2004, 07:51 AM
Church of the School of Light

Following the Almoravids Jihad in 1055 against Hesperia, there was two Crusades launched by the Catholic church, and a Second Jihad Launched by the Muslims, But by the mid 1400's the 'Religish Wars Era' came to a End and Hesperia Had steadily improving relations with their neighboring Religions in Europe.

However even as the first Jihad was taking place, in West Africa, Hesperian Explorers had rounded the Cape to the East, and were working their way north. By the early 1200's they reached Arabia, and By the late 1200's Hesperian Colonies started trading with India.. This Brought them in Contact with the Eastern Religions of Hinduism, & Buddhism, as well as the Teaching of Confucius. They were also exposed to the Caste System.

Of Course this was all brought back to the synergistic Hesperian Church, were the meanings of these were debated, No one knows for sure how or who, or even if there was a Who, but by the mid 1500's the first mention of the "School of Light" shows up in writings of the time.

The Teaching of the Church are simple

1- Souls are on he Earth to Learn lessons of Life, and they keep returning till they Master them all
2- Before returning you pick the lessons you want to learn in this life. which means what class soul you will be
3- Three are five classes of Souls, Thinkers, Healers, Workers, Teachers, And Warrior.
4- In each life you will interact with other Souls you may have encountered in past life's.
{If you were speeding drunk and total a Bus with 50 souls aboard, in your next life you May, find yourself a Teacher of these, or a Healer who saves their life, or the Policeman [Warrior] Who gives them Tickets for Speeding.
5- When you have completed the School, God has lots of Divine Work for Adult Souls.
6- Confucius, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, were Adult Souls [Mahats, = Great Soul] who came back to teach us the next steps.


There are several branches of the Church, depending on which Mahat you Follow, In Hesperia the two largest or of course SoL, Christian & Muslim, While in India the SoL Hindu & Buddha branches predominate. While only 30-35% of the population of Hesperia officially belong to the School of Light, Churches, Their Ideas have entered everyday Life, and influence the Culture.

Justin Pickard
August 2nd, 2004, 12:52 PM
EU 14 - The Europe that Austro-Hungary left behind... As you can see, the Austro-Hungary that was ISOTed is only a small part of the nation as a whole. It'll be interesting to see how it copes without its first or second cities (Vienna and Budapest respectively). The TL this area came from was one in which WW1 never happened, and in which complex networks of military and economic alliances and treaties of various power blocks help keep the peace.

Landshark
August 19th, 2004, 05:21 PM
Map of the major military alliances on the Dominion of Australia's world:

Landshark
August 19th, 2004, 10:39 PM
The Dominion of Australia's Earth:

G.Bone
August 20th, 2004, 02:28 AM
Nice Map Landshark!

Landshark
August 20th, 2004, 02:46 PM
Nice Map Landshark!

I'm just glad it's readable.

The first version used the regular "Paint" colours and was a bit of a technicolour yawn, so I went for the more muted shades. Even so I ran out of colours faster than usual. The main problem was how to show major nations that are independent but part of larger confederations, (Britannic Union, Iberian Empire and so forth) which is why I had to use the letters.

I couldn't come up with ideas for all the unmarked countries, particularly the North and South Oceanian (American) republics, two are Indian confederations, the Haudenosaunee Confederation and the Aniyunwiya League, while the others should be Indian and European states of various types.

WngMasterD
August 20th, 2004, 03:28 PM
Hey, Where is everyone getting these mapsfrom? (likebefore you did them all up)

Landshark
August 20th, 2004, 03:50 PM
Hey, Where is everyone getting these mapsfrom? (likebefore you did them all up)

It's the sort of standard AH.Com map we've used since the old board. Ian did it for his Gateway site:

General_Paul
August 28th, 2004, 01:02 AM
Hey, could someone do up a map for me? I sort of don't really know how to do one of these maps, so, if someone would make one of them up for me, I'd be most appreciative.

General_Paul
August 28th, 2004, 01:45 AM
Wait, scratch that... I got one, I just finished it up.... Ok, I give you the world of the United Provinces of India.


http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/attachment.php?attachmentid=1055&stc=1

DuQuense
August 28th, 2004, 01:48 AM
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swamphen
September 4th, 2004, 11:53 PM
Here's where the Mozambicans came from...

http://www.swamphen.net/graphics/misc/102-5.gif