Kingdoms of Germany

[Landshark]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing the various states that made up the German Confederation in the early 1860's.

[Michael]

Here you go. Remember Google is your friend (www.google.com)
http://www4.hmc.edu:8001/humanities/beckman/Nietzsche/nts170.htm

[Alayta]

http://www.ieg-maps.uni-mainz.de/

A server for historical maps in general

[Grey Wolf]

There's an amazing brilliant website but the bookmark is on a CD and I can't remember the Googoo search criteria to find it

Grey Wolf

[Grey Wolf]

This is the place I was trying to find for you

http://www.friesian.com/deutsch.htm

It has several other pages with historical and genealogical data, but this page shows the states of the German Confederation

Usefully, it shows in several different maps the kingdoms, then the grand duchies, then the duchies, then the principalities using colour to indicate just the relevant sections on each map. Given the fragmented state of some of the German states, especially the Saxon duchies in Thuringia, this is very useful indeed !

btw I had placed the URL in the links of Sargon's Stronghold - don't forget to check the link forums of there, or of AHF for other links of interest :)

Grey Wolf

[Grey Wolf]

Given how much detail there is at
http://www.friesian.com/deutsch.htm
it is strange they should make an error over the Mecklenbergs - two grand duchies and not the one amorphous blob as shown.

Also, whilst it correctly shows the Duchy of Holstein as it was during the German Confederation (i.e. pre-1864), it doesn't indicate that actually what was taken in victory against Denmark was rather more substantial, including Schleswig up to Flensburg, see :-

http://www.ieg-maps.uni-mainz.de/mapsp/mape865d.htm
(German railways as of 1865)

Of course, that map raises the intriguing question as to why the Mecklenbergs, and the Free Cities of Hamburg, Lubeck and Hamburg weren't in the Zollverein pre-1866 ?

Grey Wolf

[Alayta]

Of course, that map raises the intriguing question as to why the Mecklenbergs, and the Free Cities of Hamburg, Lubeck and Hamburg weren't in the Zollverein pre-1866 ?

Grey Wolf

I am not a hundred percent sure, but there was an very old treaty 8 around 1300)about 2 counties, Schleswig und Holstein. Holstein was danisch and schleswig was german. The two counties agreed to be "ungedeelt" (unparted) forever. So Schleswig-Holstein could neither join Denmark nor Germany which it would have in joining the zollverein.
The topic was dealt with in the prussian-danish war around the questionable time.
The today Germany still has Schleswig-Holstein as a federal state with a danish minority, owning special rights concerning f. e. elections.

[Alayta]

map 14 on the website you linked shows it