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G.Bone
July 8th, 2004, 10:20 AM
1. What the hell is Second Mosaic Earth?

Second Mosaic Earth is the second incarnation of (First) Mosaic Earth.

2. Okay, what's Mosaic Earth?

Mosaic Earth was this huge project where strange beings ("alien space bats") take nations from different dimensions and stick them onto one Earth. The only "original" country of that Earth (call it Earth A) is the UK, which either consists of just England and Ulster, or the whole two islands.

3. Okay, I'm interested. Where do I sign up?

First you go to the thread titled Smelounge or simply go one topic up to the Alien Space Bats and Other Magic Forum, and click on "Second Mosaic Earth". The matter of signing up and registering for a country is still under discussion (as well as the method) so please bear with us.

4. Jeez. How the hell are you guys going to pull this together?

Again, that is also under discussion. Some of us are in different states and some are in different nations. A vague plan of uniting us is still under discussion.

5 Are their limits to picking a nation?

Yes. You cannot be the "Glorious State of Xyalania" and possess Star Wars tech that can easily take over the world. Please limit your tech to either 2004 standards or ten years ahead of that date.

6. Can I teleport military forces?

Only with your select nation. A military force "abducted" cannot act as a nation in Second Mosaic Earth. I am sorry, but that is what happened in (First) Mosaic Earth and that was just utter chaos.

7. Whatever happened to (First) Mosaic Earth?

It died.

8. What about diplomatic stuff? And wars?

A topic will be formed for that. The thread Smelounge is strictly "out-of-character" talk and personal stuff. The yet to be created topic is strictly "in character".

9. In Character?

That means writing/posting as your leader and reacting to President X's invasion of country Y. Personal squabbles can be done in Smelounge.

10. Who are the moderators?

Yet to be discussed and appointed. My best guess would be Landshark but don't quote me on that.

11. What about a war that I'm planning on to do with Country Y?

Again, I will create that thread. Please Bear with us.

Any other questions that you might have please post here.

Michael
July 8th, 2004, 10:32 AM
What if someone has the place i want to be? Can i invade across space/time/whatever and attempt to rule?

G.Bone
July 9th, 2004, 01:14 AM
Erm....no. You get what you get (in the discussion) and if you want that land (as yours) you gotta negotiate a war with the guy who owns that land, then conduct the war in character (as well as out so that the rest of the players know what you two are doing)

->Helpful hint: Think as if you are playing D&D/Risk

Diamond
July 9th, 2004, 08:09 AM
Where do you want me to post a (revised again) map of SME? Do you want to start a new thread for that?

Regarding Hawaii and other areas too small to show up on the map I did: My thinking was that I'd just make a list in the Pacific and Indian Ocean areas listing Hawaii, the Andamans, etc. as more zones. My only concern is that they'd be too tiny to be viable in this setting. OTOH, Hawaii (for ex.) is really too far away from anything to be other than its own zone...

On the number of zones: The first map had somewhere around 180. The second one has 89. Which is better? Or is neither good - do you want to split the difference and make it about 120 total areas?

God_of_Belac
July 9th, 2004, 09:20 AM
120 would be good. So would 89. The current map has a lot of places that match up nicely to real-world political boundaries (France, say), which adding 30 more territories would likely fix, but I don't think any of the maps have real problems.

Although there's nowhere good to stick the Safavid Empire that won at Chaldiran...

G.Bone
July 9th, 2004, 07:19 PM
@Diamond...I'll open a thread up for the map and registering for nations.

Tetsu
July 9th, 2004, 08:20 PM
I had a question about the zones. Let's say I wanted a country that consisted of a certain amount of states in the USA. (This is actually what I would submit if I was to submit, which I may. I dunno.) Would these "zones" allow me to do this? Would it allow for me to create the borders of this country myself, or would I have to make it conform to the zones?

Leej
July 9th, 2004, 08:39 PM
Your country isn't these zones- that is just the part of country transported.
You could have a great big world spanning empire but the only part of it transported is Scotland with everything stopping at the English border.

So I guess with your zones you have to use the parts of the states which cover a certain zone.

Tetsu
July 9th, 2004, 08:44 PM
So not all of the country gets transported, even if it's a fairly small country, because it doesn't conform to the zones?

Leej
July 9th, 2004, 08:45 PM
Yes.
If its a small country that fits in the zone then it will all get transported.
I don't like the zones idea but it seems to be what we're doing.

Michael
July 9th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Who's in charge?

Tetsu
July 9th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Yes.
If its a small country that fits in the zone then it will all get transported.
I don't like the zones idea but it seems to be what we're doing.

Ok. Thanks. (Yeah, the zones idea seems a bit odd, but whatever.)

Diamond
July 10th, 2004, 02:26 AM
(Yeah, the zones idea seems a bit odd, but whatever.)

How else can we do it? If everyone sets his own borders with no coordination or organization, there's going to be fights over where the borders are, how much territory you get, etc etc etc. With the zones, its completely clear where your nation ends.

No one else seems to be putting forth any viable suggestions...

WngMasterD
July 10th, 2004, 05:41 AM
Hi, Im intrested in this, (sorry if i poked my nose where it isnt soposed to go). but the Regestering part of the FAQ was, to me, vauge. Where/when can i sign up? If i can

Who Dares, WIns

G.Bone
July 10th, 2004, 07:17 AM
You sign up in the Registering & Map forum. Then you type whatever info you have on your country in the info forum [the one that asks you to list the government, brief history, leader, flag]

The Gunslinger
July 12th, 2004, 06:00 AM
I think I'll take a stab at this. Can seperate parts of a nation be sent to this Mosaic Earth? Or do all three zones have to be different?

WngMasterD
July 12th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Hey, im not gonna be able to check up on this for about 10 or 11 days. will this be bad?

Michael
July 12th, 2004, 05:53 PM
Any chance someone could just make all this into a single thread? Without all the questions and so on, so it is more like:
Q)When did this start?
A)11th of July or whenever
Q)What's going on?
A)...
Q)Who's idea?
A)...
Q)Who's in charge?
A)...
Because Syphon asked what this was as he said the Frequently Asked Questions thread was not very helpful.

Leej
July 12th, 2004, 06:00 PM
I think I'll take a stab at this. Can seperate parts of a nation be sent to this Mosaic Earth? Or do all three zones have to be different?
All 3 have to be different.

Q)What's going on?
A) What do you mean whats goign on?
Q)Who's idea?
A)Whoever created the original topic on here and the old forum.
Q)Who's in charge?
A)No one, its a communist effort.

Michael
July 12th, 2004, 06:02 PM
Damn communists

tom
July 12th, 2004, 06:49 PM
This was started by Antonio Cabanas, IIRC.

Imajin
July 13th, 2004, 03:08 AM
Hm, a question (Really more of a "just making sure" thing..).. Can a country's technology be behind 2004 standards? (The FAQs thread only mentions 2004-2014)..

GBW
July 13th, 2004, 03:37 AM
Hm, a question (Really more of a "just making sure" thing..).. Can a country's technology be behind 2004 standards? (The FAQs thread only mentions 2004-2014)..

Yes, it can. In the First Mosaic Earth, there was a region that had late 18th century technology.

DuQuense
July 15th, 2004, 01:48 AM
How about if there are several small Countries or parts in the Zone ? ? Do all three get transported? after all France [Eur 6]inculdes Monaco

DuQuense
July 15th, 2004, 02:26 AM
2nd question If I have a Valid Reason [reasonable, not plausible] set 40-50 years ago can I have Tesla's Broadcast Power, and subsquent Cold Fusion. It would all be ATL Consitent. Both these are in OTL's past and work in the Alt Tech thread.

DuQuense
July 15th, 2004, 02:29 AM
3rd question. that posting template is that the world they are coming from, or the leader and military they have once they get here.

Diamond
July 15th, 2004, 04:15 AM
2nd question If I have a Valid Reason [reasonable, not plausible] set 40-50 years ago can I have Tesla's Broadcast Power, and subsquent Cold Fusion. It would all be ATL Consitent. Both these are in OTL's past and work in the Alt Tech thread.

I plan on having fusion power in one of my zones (Oceania 1). I think its within the limits we've placed; I think OTL will probably have it within 10-20 years.

3rd question. that posting template is that the world they are coming from, or the leader and military they have once they get here.

I'd say its the leader and military they have once they're in Mosaic Earth. What they were set up like before doesn't really have any bearing on SME except to set up back story.

DuQuense
July 15th, 2004, 05:59 AM
question four ?How much of the Ocean along our sections comes?, the old 3 mile, the 12 mile, or the new 200 mile limits. :confused:

G.Bone
July 15th, 2004, 10:07 PM
100 miles. The rest is simply the old ocean from the original world.

Fiji
July 16th, 2004, 11:47 AM
I'll keep lurking for a while longer, but if I do join, there are a few questions I'd like answered:

1: Have the people who get transported/abducted been informed beforehand that the event was going to happen?
2: in case the answer to 1 is "no" have the ASBs explained things to the abductees after the event?
3: what does the event look like to the people on the ground? sudden change of scenery? the typical brilliant flash of light?
4: What's in unclaimed lands? OTL? empty wildernis?
5: if a person were standing right on the border ... would he get cut in half? (seriously, I need to know)
6: is there a limit on when the POD versus OTL occured in the ATL my country comes from?

Leej
July 16th, 2004, 12:26 PM
1: No, its just without warning
3: A flash of light I'd assume though it would only be visible to those near the borders.
4: There is another piece in the unclaimed lands even though no one has made it yet.
5: Thats what I'm planning with my semi-story.
6: 10,000 years ago (so that we will have humans and not dinosaurs)

DuQuense
July 17th, 2004, 05:07 AM
?What is the boards view of Majic [Harry Potter style]

God_of_Belac
July 17th, 2004, 06:27 AM
If with a POD post-8000 B.C. and no ASBs you can get magic, fine by me.

DuQuense
July 17th, 2004, 07:11 AM
?How about aThread just for completed TL, or Stories, of the World we were ISOTed from?

G.Bone
July 17th, 2004, 09:22 AM
You can open a new thread with a title informing the players that your stories are from the original TL in order to mark it's difference from SME world.

tom
July 17th, 2004, 03:10 PM
If with a POD post-8000 B.C. and no ASBs you can get magic, fine by me.
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Hmm...a mutation giving psionic abilities, perhaps? Many people believe in them, and there is even squishy evidence. But even that is a stretch!

God_of_Belac
July 17th, 2004, 05:22 PM
Any psionic abilities I've seen work a statistically significant amount of the time (usually with something like 10-20% better than random for the divinations).

DuQuense
July 18th, 2004, 02:18 AM
Forget Majic, I changed the TimeLine from the Book, have tech instead.

DuQuense
July 18th, 2004, 02:23 AM
I Totally Misread the Map on the Board. I saw it as just South California [LA South] While checking it I realized it was Most of Calif.

How do I Change Edit] my Listing NA 8 ] Should I completly redo my Listing. Or just post a Edit. ? which would the Board prefer?

G.Bone
July 18th, 2004, 03:40 AM
just say that you want to swap for countries

Tetsu
July 18th, 2004, 10:47 PM
I have a question, I don't know if it has already been answered. If we have two countries, can they be from the same TL?

GBW
July 18th, 2004, 11:23 PM
I have a question, I don't know if it has already been answered. If we have two countries, can they be from the same TL?

Two different countries have to have different PODs.

Imajin
July 18th, 2004, 11:28 PM
Can I still use "Xyalania" as a name? *shot*

Er, the real question: Does SME have some sort of "Required Ethics" for the worlds? How overboard can I go (I will attempt to explain it..)

Tetsu
July 18th, 2004, 11:44 PM
Two different countries have to have different PODs.

Okay. It's not a real big deal, because one of the countries I had picked was already taken.

Diamond
July 19th, 2004, 01:48 AM
Er, the real question: Does SME have some sort of "Required Ethics" for the worlds? How overboard can I go (I will attempt to explain it..)

I don't know. I don't think there should be. One person has a Nazi-descended east European country; I don't think it gets much more evil than that. :) I think (or hope anyway) that we all realize an invention on SME doesn't reflect your RL attitudes. I say - go crazy!

Ward
July 30th, 2004, 06:00 AM
How do we get are flags on the site for are nation I'm going to use the Persion Flag from WWII

Leej
July 30th, 2004, 12:04 PM
You need to upload the flag to somewhere then you press the image button (the picture of the mountain under where it says size) and put in the address of where the picture is.

Imajin
July 30th, 2004, 04:21 PM
Also, Flags of the World (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/) is a good site to get flag images, which are often then altered in Paint or a similair program...

WngMasterD
July 30th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Is a flag requierd? I dont have any painting programs that work

DuQuense
July 30th, 2004, 05:59 PM
I just wrote out what it looked like.

tom
July 30th, 2004, 06:25 PM
I have heard people criticize a proposed flag here for "violating the rules of vexilollogy". Any link so I can see what those rules are?

WngMasterD
July 30th, 2004, 08:46 PM
I have heard people criticize a proposed flag here for "violating the rules of vexilollogy". Any link so I can see what those rules are?

Probably my flag. I had a good site, ill post it if i can find it.

Basically for colors, there are tow catagories: Metals (Black and white), and Colors (Red, blue, yelllow, orange and green). Coloses dont touch colors, metals dont touch metals. Usually

Cockroach
August 5th, 2004, 09:08 AM
I am aware that this has already begun but is it possible for me to join in a little late?

G.Bone
August 5th, 2004, 10:21 PM
Nope. Grab a region in the listed regions (not taken) in the registering map, fill out the details 'bout gov't & history, and join in! :)

G.Bone
August 12th, 2004, 10:17 PM
'kay....

Wars
Wars should be RP'd out although the diplomatics and the events leading to the wars should be documented in the Diplomacy Thread. Those messages that would otherwise be between allies should be either PM'd or in a seperate thread with the title "XXX is meeting about YYY about the War in DDD". A warning should be documented on those opposing countries not able to be posting in that since that would just screw the entire game. However if one wants to RP the "interception" of such data by some tech, it is okay. The war itself should be in a seperate thread with the title "WAR IN UZBEQISTAN" (example) and movements documented in there by all the participators.

-> A player can comment on the actions about the War in general in the Smelounge out of character with other players with the title "War Diplomacy" in order to avoid confusion on (for example) the CSSI negotiating trade relations with the Commonwealth of Australia.

-> I do not want to see some country whipping out 33333 atomic bombs or massive hordes of men to overwhelm the other country. This is called "godmodding" and also screws up the game

-> Also, a recommended method of conducting a war is to describe how many of your forces are going to be in the war. This applies to all participants of the war.

Michael
October 15th, 2004, 01:14 PM
Any chance of this being updated? And I'd like to protest my thread being locked, what was wrong with it :confused: :D

G.Bone
October 15th, 2004, 07:48 PM
Hmmm...I wonder why....

1. What the heck is with DME?

Basically, SME went the way of the dodo. Different Mosaic Earth (lack of ingenuity on DQ's part) is almost the same thing but with a different map and DuQuense "moderating".

2. What's up with the map?

DuQuense's doing.

3. Why aren't you (the mod of this sub-forum) doing anything?

Because I am helping out with the Battle Thread.

4. What's up with the Battle Thread?

Well...funny story...

See in the foundation and aftermath of SME, one of the biggest complaints was that a) the means of battle was screwy b) reform was needed. Unfortunately these reforms have not been implemented with two or three players not utilizing their grammar skills and thinking that they can do anything without looking at where they are. There is also the misconception that the battles can be simply solved by dice. :mad: It is my hope that these things can be cured before Third Mosaic Earth comes about.

Ward
October 15th, 2004, 08:11 PM
Hmmm...I wonder why....

1. What the heck is with DME?

Basically, SME went the way of the dodo. Different Mosaic Earth (lack of ingenuity on DQ's part) is almost the same thing but with a different map and DuQuense "moderating".

2. What's up with the map?

DuQuense's doing.

3. Why aren't you (the mod of this sub-forum) doing anything?

Because I am helping out with the Battle Thread.

4. What's up with the Battle Thread?

Well...funny story...

See in the foundation and aftermath of SME, one of the biggest complaints was that a) the means of battle was screwy b) reform was needed. Unfortunately these reforms have not been implemented with two or three players not utilizing their grammar skills and thinking that they can do anything without looking at where they are. There is also the misconception that the battles can be simply solved by dice. :mad: It is my hope that these things can be cured before Third Mosaic Earth comes about.



I think that it is better if the moterater uses dice, then just have one side state how a battle ends . Also it helps if both side posts to the moderater before battles are fought . We realy need a set of rules stateing at the start of a game how battles are fought and solved . For my Grammer It has not been helped, with having three stroks in the pass year . And Maybe we should have someone who is just the Battle Moderater . How would you have us fight a battle ? How would you cure the battles problems? If you notice The French lost most of its attacking aircraft in its air strikes on the Indian Fleet. I left it up to the Moterater to see with the use of Dice if any even got through to Attack I could of lost all the strike with bad dice rolles.
I beleave before you get mad at how battles are fought, you should come up with a way the should be fought .

G.Bone
October 15th, 2004, 08:40 PM
Oh- sorry about that Ward.

As for modding, I've pretty much left the duties to DuQuense and I have mentioned that I've volunteered to be battle mod. Other issues will be posted in the Chat thread.

Michael
October 16th, 2004, 04:33 AM
Thank you G.Bone