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general_tiu
August 16th, 2006, 12:40 PM
Can the Draka be democratized?
Glen
August 16th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Can the Draka be democratized?
The Draka are a democracy...if you are a citizen...:rolleyes:
general_tiu
August 16th, 2006, 02:59 PM
How, about like ending slavery in Draka and freeing the serfs and giving them the right to vote? Or, prevent those right-wing crazies from influencing Draka politics?
Archangel Michael
August 16th, 2006, 09:43 PM
The Domination, like all democracies, says that you must be a citizen to vote. And since serfs are citizens, they can't vote. But if you are a citizen, then you can vote. But I was getting the feeling from some of the political discussion that the Domination was a one-party state.
Superdude
August 16th, 2006, 09:51 PM
Nah, they had different parties, its just that one always won the elections.
Glen
August 17th, 2006, 01:11 AM
How, about like ending slavery in Draka and freeing the serfs and giving them the right to vote? Or, prevent those right-wing crazies from influencing Draka politics?
Well, sure...
...but then it won't be the Draka....
Admiral Matt
August 17th, 2006, 01:13 AM
Sure. Just like Haiti.
MerryPrankster
February 19th, 2007, 12:26 AM
The Draka themselves believed that if they lightened up on the serfs, there'd be a massive revolt and they and their loyalists (like the Janissaries) would all be killed.
Perhaps they could be convinced this would not happen. I think the Alliance leadership towards the end was planning on using the dataplague to gut the Draka military and then forcing them to disarm and reform. If the Alliance had a "carrot" of protection against serf risings in addition to the stick of simply nuking them, the Draka might not be afraid.
A gradual program might work based on education might work. Give them the proper education to BE Citizens and when it's done, free them. Do it region by region.
Yossarian
February 19th, 2007, 11:25 PM
How do you think it would have gone had the alliance won? The effort of clearing the draka out of their land and freeing the serfs with the limited resources they had would be enormous.
RealityBYTES
February 22nd, 2007, 06:12 AM
How do you think it would have gone had the alliance won? The effort of clearing the draka out of their land and freeing the serfs with the limited resources they had would be enormous.
Odds are, we'll never know ... unless an alternate history book of an alternate history book is released, of course.
RealityBYTES :D
P.S. WRT the topic, I thought the Draka had "Fenris," a superbomb of some type, as their "final weapon" in case their defeat was a certainty. I think it was supposed be buried along a major fault line ... had it been used, Earth would have really been left mostly uninhabitable.
Then again, considering Earth's fate after the Alliance fell to the Draka, perhaps that wouldn't have been such a terrible thing. ;)
RealityBYTES
February 22nd, 2007, 06:16 AM
The Draka themselves believed that if they lightened up on the serfs, there'd be a massive revolt and they and their loyalists (like the Janissaries) would all be killed.
Perhaps they could be convinced this would not happen. I think the Alliance leadership towards the end was planning on using the dataplague to gut the Draka military and then forcing them to disarm and reform. If the Alliance had a "carrot" of protection against serf risings in addition to the stick of simply nuking them, the Draka might not be afraid.
A gradual program might work based on education might work. Give them the proper education to BE Citizens and when it's done, free them. Do it region by region.
I was under the impression that Eric Von Shrakenberg had considered something like this, but then decided it was too late in the game to change the nature of his people. In the end, he settled for "uniting" Earth under Draka rule, with the hope that future Draka generations — without the "fear" of having to share the planet with the Alliance of Democracy — would be able to effect change at their own pace.
Obviously, as shown in "Drakon," that hasn't produced much, except for the extinction of "normal" humans (serf and Draka alike), to be replaced by servus and drakensis models.
RealityBYTES
Arachnid
February 23rd, 2007, 09:25 PM
Actually general_tiu has a good idea.
Most political parties in most countries advocate changing society at a very low level i.e. spending more on NHS, or more on Defence, or bigger tax cuts while leaving society fundementally unchanged.
What if instead of one party always winning the elections there was a geniune multi-party state with control switching between them (whether a duopoly liek the US/UK, or European style coalitions), while obviously leaving serfdom et al alone.
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