The Sixteen Colonies.

[Archangel Michael]

WI, instead of the lands east of the Appalachians becoming Indian Territory, England decided to create three new colonies. The three new colonies are named Vandalia (West Virginia), Transylvania (Kentucky, Tennessee, and parts of Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia), and Charlotiana (Northwest Territories). Let's say they join the other thriteen British colonies. Now how does the United States devlop after this?

[David S Poepoe]

So the British now are double crossing their Indian Allies in allowing the establishment of colonies beyond the Appalachians? You've now created the likely possibility that continued wars with the Indians will completely upset the call for revolution in the colonies. They just might agree to pay the various taxes imposed by Parliament since British troops will be protecting settlers in the west.

[DuQuense]

Your three states are way too big,
plus why whould the Eastern States give up their Western land Claims, :confused:
Your also forgetting about West Florida,

[Archangel Michael]

So the British now are double crossing their Indian Allies in allowing the establishment of colonies beyond the Appalachians? You've now created the likely possibility that continued wars with the Indians will completely upset the call for revolution in the colonies. They just might agree to pay the various taxes imposed by Parliament since British troops will be protecting settlers in the west.

No Indian reserves at all.

Your three states are way too big,
plus why whould the Eastern States give up their Western land Claims,
Your also forgetting about West Florida,

The plan was drawn up before the ARW. The thirteen colonies had no claims to the west at all at that time, so that problem is gone. West Florida was British at the time.

[DuQuense]

The plan was drawn up before the ARW. The thirteen colonies had no claims to the west at all at that time

Recheck your sources. IIRC several of the original Charters gave the Colinies claims all the way to the Pacific. Also pre ARW there was lots of tension between the landowners in the east [tidewater]& the new Settlers in the mountains, over control of the western lands.

[Tyr]

The colonies didn't go all the way to the pacific they just didn't have their western borders defined. When they were founded they were just coastal settlements, people hadn't thought ahead.

[DuQuense]

Charter of Carolina - March 24, 1663
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all that territory or tract of ground, scituate, lying and being within our dominions of America, extending from the north end of the island called Lucke island, which lieth in the southern Virginia seas, and within six and thirty degrees of the northern latitude, and to the west as far as the south seas, and so southerly as far as the river St. Matthias, which bordereth upon the coast of Florida, and within one and thirty degrees of northern latitude, and so west in a direct line as far as the south seas aforesaid;.................

I Beleive the South Seas Refer to the Pacific.

[Paul Spring]

IIRC several of the original colonies did have charters giving them claim to certain lands as far west as the "South Sea", which meant the Pacific Ocean. In practice, by the mid-18th century these claims had been reduced to the Mississippi as a western boundary. Virginia claimed what later became Kentucky and all of the land between the Ohio River, the Great Lakes, and the Mississippi. Massachusetts and Connecticut claimed strips of land on the same latitudes as their states beginning west of the New York border and continuing westward to the Mississippi. New York claimed what later became Vermont and also part of what became Ontario, north and west of Lakes Ontario and Lake Erie.

Pennsylvania, Maryland, Rhode Island, and Delaware were noteworthy because they did NOT claim any more than their modern territories.