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Ward
December 14th, 2005, 06:43 AM
So how much seeds did you people bring and what types were they .
It would be nice to know .


If you only posted a weight for seeds post it and I can figure what type you brought and how many acres worth you have .


This way we can figure how much land we need to clear before we put the first crops in .

Also post if you brought over trees and vines so we know how many we have .

This is importian to know so we can figure the arcers we will need to clear .

Ward
December 14th, 2005, 07:02 AM
Well the Ward Family is not going to Feed everyone else of there crops .

Here is what is in are 200 lbs of seeds and how many acres of ground they will cover .
Type Acres
2lbs of Cabbage seeds 6
35lbs of Alfalfa seeds 1
3 lbs of Med Carrots 1
1 lb of Brussel Sprouts 1
1 lb of Eggplant 1
1 lb of Lettuce 1
3 lbs of Muskmelon 1
2 lbs of Mustard 0.5
4 lbs of Onion 1
1 lb of Broccoli 1
1 lb of Cauliflower 1
1 lb of Red Peppers 1
1 lb of Green peppers 1
10 lbs of Summer squash 2
8 lbs of Winter Squash 2
2 lbs of Tomato's 2
2 lbs of Turnips 1
60 lbs of Lima Beans 1
10 lbs of Beets 1
30 lbs of Navy Beans 1
16 lbs of Field corn 2
16 lbs of Sweet corn 2

For a grand total of 31.5 Acres of crops

pisces74
December 14th, 2005, 07:09 AM
Red beans, Coffee, Tea, (the green type and orange) and sugarcane here, of course I was under the assumption I'd be trading with the ward Clan :rolleyes:

Ward
December 14th, 2005, 07:19 AM
Red beans, Coffee, Tea, (the green type and orange) and sugarcane here, of course I was under the assumption I'd be trading with the ward Clan :rolleyes:


Yes if you have a crop in the field I'm willing to trade with you . Hell the Tomatos alone will be about 2 tons a week if its a bad season .
So how many pounds of seed's of each type did you bring so we can figure how many acres we will have in crops this first planting season .

pisces74
December 14th, 2005, 07:24 AM
Yes if you have a crop in the field I'm willing to trade with you . Hell the Tomatos alone will be about 2 tons a week if its a bad season .
So how many pounds of seed's of each type did you bring so we can figure how many acres we will have in crops this first planting season .
This is where the system breaks down. I just filled out the rest of my remaining weight with 5 or 6 types of food and their applicible seeds, so I niether have very much an idea, just that theres not much there. Also Jen gave Mrs Ward the coffee beans and seeds when we moved in next door to you on day 3 or 4. Figure a lb a peice. Though I 'm probably lowballing myself.

Ward
December 14th, 2005, 07:28 AM
This is where the system breaks down. I just filled out the rest of my remaining weight with 5 or 6 types of food and their applicible seeds, so I niether have very much an idea, just that theres not much there. Also Jen gave Mrs Ward the coffee beans and seeds when we moved in next door to you on day 3 or 4.


Thats fine I will look up your post on what you took . and get an Idea from that .

Norbert
December 14th, 2005, 08:02 AM
Amount: Acres: Apx Yield
25 lb Oats: 1/4
50 lb Wheat: 1/4
20 lb Barley: 1/8
22.5 lb Rye: 1/8
20 lb Dry Beans: 1/4: 500 lb
20 lb Peas: 1/4
20 lb Potatoes: 720 sq ft: 540 lb
20 lb Peanuts: 1/3: 2000 lb

Flocculencio
December 14th, 2005, 12:17 PM
Well just for my personal garden I brought cumin, chillies, ginger, garlic, onions, cloves, pepper and cinnamon

Doctor What
December 14th, 2005, 02:22 PM
50 lbs Farm Seeds (corn, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloupe, squash, pumpkin)
30 lbs Garden Seeds (tomatoes, lettuce, cucumber, carrot, radish)
30 lbs Plant Cuttings (apple, orange, peach, lemon, pomegranate)
10 lbs of cotton seeds
10 lbs of marijuana seeds
30 lbs Grape Cuttings and Vines

Damn--forgot to bring coffee or tea--

Glen
December 14th, 2005, 03:02 PM
Potatoes are very important...especially if they are clear of blight. We can satisfy a large amount of our caloric needs with those even in poor soil areas.

Did anyone bring rice? I brought a small amount of the genetically modified golden rice....

Most of my seeds are medicinal plants and herbs. I brought just enough of each type to make certain that we would have them available for the future...won't be a lot of production of any one type anytime soon, unless it grows locally (and I did include both a general guide to medicinal plants as well as one on local varieties).

Norbert
December 14th, 2005, 03:16 PM
Information:

Potatoes would require 1200-2100 lbs per acre, todays typical yields are 35,600 lbs per acre

Flocculencio
December 14th, 2005, 03:20 PM
Well just for my personal garden I brought cumin, chillies, ginger, garlic, onions, cloves, pepper and cinnamon

Oh and tobacco.

Forum Lurker
December 14th, 2005, 06:23 PM
I have about 150 lbs of soybeans, maybe 250 of seed-quality potatoes.

DuQuense
December 14th, 2005, 08:12 PM
They are very expensive , but the ASB's were providing,
I would have included Greek, Italian, and Spainish Olive seeds,
I would have also inculded a few Cashews, and Macidania seeds.

Oh yes-- a few of those giant florida Avocados, and cuttings from the latest results of the Paw-Paw domestication project.

?did any one bring pototo seeds?, ?or or you all using, just the pototo Eye method?.

Othniel
December 14th, 2005, 08:30 PM
They are very expensive , but the ASB's were providing,
I would have included Greek, Italian, and Spainish Olive seeds,
I would have also inculded a few Cashews, and Macidania seeds.

Oh yes-- a few of those giant florida Avocados, and cuttings from the latest results of the Paw-Paw domestication project.

?did any one bring pototo seeds?, ?or or you all using, just the pototo Eye method?.
I figured we'd just cut the potateo into fourths and plow them under...

Dave Howery
December 14th, 2005, 08:58 PM
mine are on my list, but I brought 50 lbs. of seeds, quite a few packets of herb/seasonings seeds, seed potatoes, fruit tree/bush cuttings....

jolo
December 14th, 2005, 09:02 PM
I didn't bring too many seeds - let's say about 50 lbs.

They are supposed to be planted in suitable areas near the first settlement.

Quite a few garden seeds as they are found in a shop. Also all kinds of seeds suitable for low maintenance high yield farming under difficult circumstances (the pros here can insert whatever they like - otherwise I'll research it whenever it should get important). Some seeds for useful plants that grow on their own. Mainly the things where few or small seeds deliver lots of results.

I figured I can find quite a few useful plants there - berries, trees, funghi, and so on.

Until then, food gathering, fishing, hunting, and so on are the main means to get food.

Norbert
December 14th, 2005, 09:05 PM
I figured we'd just cut the potateo into fourths and plow them under...

Nay!!! To Plow them under would be to kill them!!! Don't worry, we will have enough people to plant them properly. As a rough estimate, figure we get 27-30 lbs of potatoes for each pound planted, and If we save the first couple of crops for replanting, we will be able to have a selfsufficient supply at the end of year two. Figure three plantings and crops by then (I am no sure if we could pull off two plantings the first year, but maybe!)

Gerard-ABC
December 15th, 2005, 01:23 AM
Ok,
I brought whatever the "standard" volume of seeds on, on that list many of us copied from.

split up:

25% onions
20% potatoes
20% tomatoes
10% carrots
25% peas

I got all the veg types I need there <g>

Regards,
Gerard

Grimm Reaper
December 15th, 2005, 02:41 AM
I brought many different seeds, including 5% dedicated to flowers for decoration. All major vegetables, various beans, rye(the hardiest of all grains) and corn, spices which we would find useful and/or valuable...

Also I brought about fifty pots with seedlings 2-4 years old of coffee, peach, apple(golden delicious), tomato, lime and lemon(they have oranges, right?), and coconut.

Dave Howery
December 15th, 2005, 04:17 AM
I figured I can find quite a few useful plants there - berries, trees, funghi, and so on.

I'm not sure that any local fruit plants are good for our use at this time. IIRC, American grapes and apples were not good for human use until they were crossbred with European ones. There are wild strawberries and blueberries, but they are tiny little things. I don't think we even have the food plants that came from the Americas at this time... corn is a tiny seeded grass, squashes aren't anything like what we have now, potatoes are tiny tubers clear down in the Andes.... basically, anything you want to grow, you better bring with you...
In general, foraging for wild plants is a crummy way to feed yourselves...

Ghost 88
December 15th, 2005, 05:57 AM
Brought what Ward brought including a steel plow

Gerard-ABC
December 15th, 2005, 09:45 AM
I almost forget, I also brought some raspberry plants, and seeds.

I got to have raspberries....

Regards,
Gerard

Matt
December 15th, 2005, 02:48 PM
Sweet merciful god, someone brought coffee.

Doctor What
December 15th, 2005, 02:59 PM
Sweet merciful god, someone brought coffee.
Everything you need to know about growing coffee trees (http://www.thegardenhelper.com/coffee.html)

Only one teeny problem....

It takes four years for them to reach maturity.....:eek:

Matt
December 15th, 2005, 03:04 PM
*puts gun in mouth*

I can't have coca-cola, I can't have coffee. It's not worth it!

Doctor What
December 15th, 2005, 03:12 PM
*puts gun in mouth*

I can't have coca-cola, I can't have coffee. It's not worth it!

It's ok! It's ok! You can drink tea! That only takes...er...3 years...to reach maturity.

How much instant coffee did we bring? :(

Othniel
December 15th, 2005, 03:14 PM
It's ok! It's ok! You can drink tea! That only takes...er...3 years...to reach maturity.

How much instant coffee did we bring? :(
There is enough for one cup in each MRE. Save up your diner and lunch ones for breakfast time.

Matt
December 15th, 2005, 03:14 PM
No where near enough!!!!!

Flocculencio
December 15th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Sweet merciful god, someone brought coffee.

Bwahaha...writhe in pain, caffeine addicts, writhe in pain!

Doctor What
December 15th, 2005, 03:17 PM
No where near enough!!!!!

I sense that our friend Matt will be needing an intervention soon....

~ties Matt to chair~

"It's ok, Matt--all your friends are here--you'll kick this habit soon enough--we love you, man..."

Othniel
December 15th, 2005, 03:19 PM
No where near enough!!!!!
I don't drink it though I brought some just in case I had to get a quick cafenie fix, but fortunately I got cured of that... (brought some tea too) You can have mine.

jolo
December 15th, 2005, 03:57 PM
I'm not sure that any local fruit plants are good for our use at this time. IIRC, American grapes and apples were not good for human use until they were crossbred with European ones. There are wild strawberries and blueberries, but they are tiny little things. I don't think we even have the food plants that came from the Americas at this time... corn is a tiny seeded grass, squashes aren't anything like what we have now, potatoes are tiny tubers clear down in the Andes.... basically, anything you want to grow, you better bring with you...
In general, foraging for wild plants is a crummy way to feed yourselves...

I suppose we will have some plants, even if the fruits aren't that big - enough for some gardening and some cross breeding experiments.

Also, a few plants which got extinct in the last 5000 years might be helpful. The Amerindians might be a source of knowledge of what can be eaten.

Nice thing with local plants (even if they don't produce much food) is, we can take whole plants or branches from all over and plant them in our gardens - that will give us (a little bit of) food much earlier than seeds.

Grimm Reaper
December 15th, 2005, 06:05 PM
Well, I did say the seedlings were 2-4 years old so the wait for coffee might not be that long.

Or would you rather wait until we have a ship-building industry that can reach Ethiopia, then go into the high altitudes there, find the precursor to coffee, and spend a few decades trying to raise it up right?:mad: