View Full Version : TL-191 United States Presidential Election 1960
Turquoise Blue
June 23rd, 2012, 05:55 PM
Well, after Morrell's eight years, it is time for a new President.
This election is the first for Newfoundland, and the first in a long time for Houston, Kentucky and Tennessee. Welcome! *claps*
Alright, the three parties has chosen their nominations. Vote for the one you like the most.
Democratic Nomination
President: Nelson Rockefeller, of New York
Vice President: Barry Goldwater, of New Mexico
Socialist Nomination
President: Wayne Morse, of Oregon
Vice President: Eric Hass, of New York
Republican Nomination
President: Adlai Stevenson, of Illinois
Vice President: William Bryson, Sr. of Iowa.
Abhakhazia
June 23rd, 2012, 06:03 PM
Hard one between Adlai and Rockefeller. Chose Rockefeller.
Turquoise Blue
June 23rd, 2012, 06:05 PM
Hard one between Adlai and Rockefeller. Chose Rockefeller.
Heh, and I thought you were loyal to the Republican Party... :p
Abhakhazia
June 23rd, 2012, 06:06 PM
Heh, and I thought you were loyal to the Republican Party... :p
Not TL-191 I'm not.
That be different.
Turquoise Blue
June 23rd, 2012, 06:08 PM
Not TL-191 I'm not.
That be different.
Its just funny, how you post how the Democrats never found the "sweet spot" for you, and then you turn around and vote Democrat in my election...
I know its a different universe, but its funny, nevertheless.
Komodo20
June 23rd, 2012, 06:09 PM
OOC: Torn between Adlai and Rockefeller. I like the novelty of a Rockefeller/Goldwater ticket, but I actually like OTL Adlai and really want to see the Republicans regain the White House in TL-191. Abhakhazia, how did you decide?
Also, Rockefeller still a "Rockefeller Democrat" (:p ) or has he moved right-ward in this TL?
Turquoise Blue
June 23rd, 2012, 06:12 PM
OOC: Torn between Adlai and Rockefeller. I like the novelty of a Rockefeller/Goldwater ticket, but I actually like OTL Adlai and really want to see the Republicans regain the White House in TL-191. Abhakhazia, how did you decide?
Also, Rockefeller still a "Rockefeller Democrat" (:p ) or has he moved right-ward in this TL?
OOC: He is considered moderate by Democratic standards. I would suggest to vote Republican in 1960.
Abhakhazia
June 23rd, 2012, 06:14 PM
Its just funny, how you post how the Democrats never found the "sweet spot" for you, and then you turn around and vote Democrat in my election...
I know its a different universe, but its funny, nevertheless.
I'm a funny guy. You should know that by now.
It is another universe. And Nelson and Barry are Republicans in OTL so there.
Komodo20
June 23rd, 2012, 06:21 PM
Decided to go with Stevenson. The Republicans must regain the White House and Stevenson is the man to do it!
jack_donaghy_is_the_shado
June 23rd, 2012, 06:41 PM
I went with a hole in a shoe over a hole in the head!
(Got that from a Stevenson retro campaign shirt)
Turquoise Blue
June 23rd, 2012, 06:52 PM
4, 4, 4?!
That is a draw?!
People, vote more, please.
Turquoise Blue
June 24th, 2012, 02:13 AM
I see the old system of Dem-Socialists competing, while Republicans are left in the dust, returns...
What a shame, I was actually hoping for a Stevenson Presidency.
Abhakhazia
June 24th, 2012, 02:16 AM
I see the old system of Dem-Socialists competing, while Republicans are left in the dust, returns...
What a shame, I was actually hoping for a Stevenson Presidency.
I probably should of voted for Adlai.
EdM
June 24th, 2012, 02:20 AM
Well I voted Republican. And Nelson Rockefeller a Democrat? No, I'd think he'd be a Republican in this timeline, too. But a good Democrat for the '60 Election would be John F Kennedy (he was a Dem in 2nd Great War). Or Richard Milhous Nixon. :p
Van555
June 24th, 2012, 08:50 AM
GO Morse bring the socialism back to the Powell House.
Though in all seriousness they just seem to be a vaguely social democratic party, almost a third way in fact :mad:.
bguy
June 24th, 2012, 01:53 PM
Well I voted Republican. And Nelson Rockefeller a Democrat? No, I'd think he'd be a Republican in this timeline, too. But a good Democrat for the '60 Election would be John F Kennedy (he was a Dem in 2nd Great War). Or Richard Milhous Nixon. :p
The TL-191 Democrats are a broad coalition. Yes, they include staunch conservatives like Coolidge, Taft, and Goldwater, but they also contain much more liberal figures like Teddy Roosevelt, Dewey, and Truman. Rockefeller fits well within the later group. Also the TL-191 Republicans are primarily a Mid-West and Farm Belt party; exactly the parts of the country where OTL Rockefeller was politically weakest.
Turquoise Blue
June 25th, 2012, 05:50 PM
I see the Socialists will return to power under Wayne Morse.
Turquoise Blue
June 26th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Bump. Vote more, please! And maybe comment?
JSmith
June 26th, 2012, 06:35 PM
I hope Morse will pull it off.After the Morrell 50's we need the Socialists again!
jpj1421
June 26th, 2012, 06:36 PM
Not really any bad choices this time around. I'd probably be out campaigning for Socialists in Pennsylvania instead of worrying too much about the Presidential.
modelcitizen
June 27th, 2012, 03:50 PM
I'm a Teddy-crat. What can I say.
Turquoise Blue
June 27th, 2012, 11:38 PM
OOC: I'm amazed that Morse can beat both Rockefeller and Stevenson.
Turquoise Blue
June 28th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Morse is winning.
Nerdlinger
June 28th, 2012, 06:16 PM
This one is much closer. If Morse and Rockefeller tie, will you have a runoff between the two or would you run a second election with all three candidates to simulate the House vote that would occur in the event of no majority in the EC? If it's the latter, I'd suggest setting up the poll with six options like this:
Rockefeller/Goldwater
Rockefeller/Hass
Morse/Goldwater
Morse/Hass
Stevenson/Goldwater
Stevenson/Hass
That way you can simulate the Senate vote on the top two VPs at the same time.
Turquoise Blue
June 28th, 2012, 06:27 PM
This one is much closer. If Morse and Rockefeller tie, will you have a runoff between the two or would you run a second election with all three candidates to simulate the House vote that would occur in the event of no majority in the EC? If it's the latter, I'd suggest setting up the poll with six options like this:
Rockefeller/Goldwater
Rockefeller/Hass
Morse/Goldwater
Morse/Hass
Stevenson/Goldwater
Stevenson/Hass
That way you get can simulate the Senate vote on the top two VPs at the same time.
Ooh...
I did not expect this...
I'll do the second one, just because its more interesting in the long-run.
Turquoise Blue
June 29th, 2012, 01:39 PM
Well, this might be a close race, but I'm still starting the next ones when Nerdlinger starts his, to re-align our threads. You can still vote in this one.
jpj1421
June 29th, 2012, 01:44 PM
I almost voted for Stevenson...I wish I had now. The runoff would have been awesome.
/Edit
Spoke too soon.
Turquoise Blue
June 29th, 2012, 02:00 PM
I almost voted for Stevenson...I wish I had now. The runoff would have been awesome.
/Edit
Spoke too soon.
Damn it... Now I have to run three threads at once... The runoff for this, the 1964 one and the 1888 one...
MatthewFirth
June 29th, 2012, 02:17 PM
Damn it... Now I have to run three threads at once... The runoff for this, the 1964 one and the 1888 one...
All that can change, we've got till 6:30pm UK time tomorrow to vote.
Turquoise Blue
June 29th, 2012, 09:14 PM
*Phew* Morse is now leading, by one vote...
Nerdlinger
June 29th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Damn it... Now I have to run three threads at once... The runoff for this, the 1964 one and the 1888 one...
It can be done. ;)
Turquoise Blue
June 29th, 2012, 10:17 PM
It can be done. ;)
Yeah, but there is barely enough space in my sig for two, I can't put in three...
Nerdlinger
June 29th, 2012, 10:31 PM
Yeah, but there is barely enough space in my sig for two, I can't put in three...
I used tinyurl.com to get three links to fit in mine. As for the text, you can change "against" to "vs.", drop middle initials, etc.
Turquoise Blue
June 29th, 2012, 10:32 PM
I used tinyurl.com to get three links to fit in mine. As for the text, you can change "against" to "vs.", drop middle initials, etc.
Tinyurl? I'll look in that. And I'll change it to vs., but I think that sounds a little too much like boxing and the like, rather then elections.
Turquoise Blue
June 30th, 2012, 01:45 AM
Fuck! I now have to do a run-off... :(
Nerdlinger
June 30th, 2012, 03:02 AM
Fuck! I now have to do a run-off... :(
Language....
It'd be interesting, though. Even I haven't managed that yet.
Turquoise Blue
June 30th, 2012, 03:26 AM
Language....
It'd be interesting, though. Even I haven't managed that yet.
Tell me, did you set out a plan for this scenario?
Nerdlinger
June 30th, 2012, 11:11 AM
Tell me, did you set out a plan for this scenario?
I already described the plan -- it's a runoff to simulate the House and Senate vote. It's what would happen in real life, and it's what I'd do in my project too.
Spengler
June 30th, 2012, 11:23 AM
Who wants to keep up the occupation of those genocidal cousins of ours?
Turquoise Blue
June 30th, 2012, 12:58 PM
I already described the plan -- it's a runoff to simulate the House and Senate vote. It's what would happen in real life, and it's what I'd do in my project too.
Alright. I hope it will not end up needing one of those...
Nerdlinger
June 30th, 2012, 05:51 PM
Wow, very close. Rockefeller leads Morse by just one vote with minutes to go! Maybe we won't have that tie after all. Somehow, I'm a little disappointed.
Turquoise Blue
June 30th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Wow, very close. Rockefeller leads Morse by just one vote with minutes to go! Maybe we won't have that tie after all. Somehow, I'm a little disappointed.
Well Rocky won, and if Nixon continues his victory in the 1964 one, then this board has elected Democrats to office four times in a row.
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