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Darkest
December 7th, 2005, 01:32 AM
This obviously can be added on to later, but here is what we have so far:
People Who Were ISOTed
3180 individuals
People Who Left To Become Conquistadors (Main Group)
42 individuals, mostly adults
People Who Left To Become Conquistadors (Individual)
11 individuals, mostly adults
People Who Deserted To Join Other Groups or Set Out Themselves
72 individuals
People Who Remained In The Main Group
3055 individuals.
People Who Have Chosen To Stay At Ian's Apartment
272 individuals, about 68 families, 52 of which are living in tents outside of the apartment.
People Who Have Chosen To Leave For The Main Colony
2783 individuals
---
Average # For Each Family
4.09
Ethnic Groups (Out of All ISOTed)
Caucasian - 83.71% (2662)
Native American - ~3.49% (111)
African - ~2.33% (74)
Asian - ~2.33% (74)
Hispanic - ~2.33% (74)
Indian - ~2.33% (74)
Mixed Race - ~3.42 (111)
Religions (Out of All ISOTed)
Agnostic - 1.92% (61)
Atheist - 2.67% (85)
Buddhist - 1.51% (48)
Catholic - 18.71% (595)
Jewish - 2.55% (81)
Mormon - 7.7% (245)
Muslim - 0.22% (7)
Navajo - 2.67% (85)
Eastern Orthodox - 0.75% (24)
Protestant Christian - 45.88% (1459) | [Anglican - 1.32% (42); Methodist - 3.24% (103); Other - 95% (1314)]
Quaker - 1.51% (48)
Unaffiliated - 9.37% (298)
Darkest
December 7th, 2005, 01:38 AM
Could anyone get statistics for gender and ages?
Age Groups: 0-5; 6-10; 11-15; 16-20; 21-30; 31-40; 41-50; 51-60; 61-70; 71-80; and 81+
Thank you!
Psychomeltdown
December 7th, 2005, 01:39 AM
See there's a reason that using the percentages don't work.
I think I'm the only full blooded native american on this board, yet you have 111 of us. I'm the only one who practices my people's faith, yet you have 85 also doing it...
This is why I don't like the percentage system. :(
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 01:40 AM
See there's a reason that using the percentages don't work.
I think I'm the only full blooded native american on this board, yet you have 111 of us. I'm the only one who practices my people's faith, yet you have 85 also doing it...
This is why I don't like the percentage system. :(
I also doubt there would be that many mormons...
Darkest
December 7th, 2005, 01:44 AM
Would you rather have us use the cia.gov worldbook statistics for Religions in the United States?
I averaged our census results with the United States percentages, so it came out with only a few errors. Mormons actually make up 2% of the USA, so my demographic would still be up there.
If you guys really want to take that down and put up averages from the worldbook, tell me. Three people, at least.
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 01:48 AM
Would you rather have us use the cia.gov worldbook statistics for Religions in the United States?
I averaged our census results with the United States percentages, so it came out with only a few errors. Mormons actually make up 2% of the USA, so my demographic would still be up there.
If you guys really want to take that down and put up averages from the worldbook, tell me. Three people, at least.
More than 40% of our members come from Europe, mostly Britons and Germans.
Ghost 88
December 7th, 2005, 01:52 AM
Othniel come on now 12 men 12women 220 children sounds about right for LDS :rolleyes:
Dave Howery
December 7th, 2005, 01:52 AM
OK, trying to figure out how many horses we have left... assuming the two conquistador types are couples absconding with one horse each, that's 26 gone (Shade's buffalo doesn't count)... of the ones 'just leaving on their own'... I know some of these are families... so how many individual families does that number of 72 cover? I'd assume they have one horse per family as well.
Ya know, these deserters are taking a bigger share of the horses than the colony average...
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 01:54 AM
Othniel come on now 12 men 12women 220 children sounds about right for LDS :rolleyes:
I'm from Utah, I can doubt the LDS all I want. Even their childbearing capablities...
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 01:56 AM
Ya know, these deserters are taking a bigger share of the horses than the colony average...
Some of them should have cattle or donkies, but the majority of them would have favoured horses..
Dave Howery
December 7th, 2005, 01:57 AM
I don't recall one person claiming to be a Mormon in all the years on here... chances are, there will be at least one in the group though, either a member or his/her family/spouse...
Ward
December 7th, 2005, 02:00 AM
I have to agree some of the religions are way to high
Let us take the % of the US but only use 60% of the pop .
The take the % of the pop that is from the UK and also Germany And do ther %
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 02:00 AM
I don't recall one person claiming to be a Mormon in all the years on here... chances are, there will be at least one in the group though, either a member or his/her family/spouse...
D90 is a mormon.
Dave Howery
December 7th, 2005, 02:01 AM
D90 is a mormon.
hey, I was right then.... :)
Ghost 88
December 7th, 2005, 02:01 AM
Othniel my last boss here in AZ is Morman and has 7 brothers and yes I know that what I posted was a stereotype but,Utah does have the highest birthrate in USA
Darkest
December 7th, 2005, 02:01 AM
I like your idea Ward.
You guys second that? 60% from the US, 20% from UK, 20% from Germany?
The LDS have a lot of wierd statistics, makes Utah stand out a lot in the demographics compared to other states.
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 02:02 AM
Othniel my last boss here in AZ is Morman and has 7 brothers and yes I know that what I posted was a stereotype but,Utah does have the highest birthrate in USA
Earlier Marriages than most states... more time to procreat coupled with religious duty, and if sterile, adoption. Even being a family of four here is small. 5 to 7 is normal, thou estimates too high fiend.
Darkest
December 7th, 2005, 02:08 AM
I'm part of a family of six, while my mom is of a family of twelve.
Twelve!
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 02:09 AM
I'm part of a family of six, while my mom is of a family of twelve.
Twelve!
Must have had Catholic ansetory...:p
Ward
December 7th, 2005, 02:11 AM
I'm part of a family of six, while my mom is of a family of twelve.
Twelve!
Well I had 4 kids my father was 1 of 6 and his dad was 1 of 24 that we know of . My Parents had 4 children that lived .
Psychomeltdown
December 7th, 2005, 02:11 AM
Othniel my last boss here in AZ is Morman and has 7 brothers and yes I know that what I posted was a stereotype but,Utah does have the highest birthrate in USA
One of my best friends is mormon and she come from a family of 8. But I think that's just the navajo upbringing, since she doesn't really adhere to the Mormon faith.
Ghost 88
December 7th, 2005, 02:13 AM
Hey I wasn't trying to seem a troll just to be cute on your doubting 245 LDS members. Remember that they are a substancial portion of the pop. of not only UT but AZ,NV,WY,and WY plus the fastest growing religion in the Ukraine (if I remember correctly something I read a while back)
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 02:14 AM
Hey I wasn't trying to seem a troll just to be cute on your doubting 245 LDS members. Remember that they are a substancial portion of the pop. of not only UT but AZ,NV,WY,and WY plus the fastest growing religion in the Ukraine (if I remember correctly something I read a while back)
Cyprus. They might be fast growning but I don't think we have that many on our site.
Ghost 88
December 7th, 2005, 02:16 AM
See three of the posters (you inc.?) are of that faith
Othniel
December 7th, 2005, 02:17 AM
See three of the posters (you inc.?) are of that faith
Only Darkest90. I'm a Protestant Christian, of no denomination preferance.
Darkest
December 7th, 2005, 04:10 AM
Ethnic Groups
Caucasian - 85.74%
African - 8.14%
Asian - 2.52%
Native American - 0.60%
Indian - 0.36%
Pakistani - 0.26%
Other - 2.38%
Religion
Protestant - 48.74%
Roman Catholic - 24.78%
Muslim - 1.88%
Mormon - 1.20%
Jewish - 0.60%
None - 10.82%
Other - 11.98%
Darkest
December 9th, 2005, 05:24 AM
People Who Were ISOTed
3180 individuals
People Who Left To Become Conquistadors (Main Group)
42 individuals, mostly adults
People Who Left To Become Conquistadors (Individual)
11 individuals, mostly adults
People Who Deserted To Join Other Groups or Set Out Themselves
72 individuals
People Who Remained In The Main Group
3055 individuals. [-3 (casualties), 3052]
People Who Have Chosen To Stay At Ian's Apartment
272 individuals, about 68 families, 52 of which are living in tents outside of the apartment.
People Who Have Chosen To Leave For The Main Colony
2783 individuals [-3 (casualties), 2780]
---
Average # For Each Family
4.09
Ethnic Groups (Out of All ISOTed)
Caucasian - 85% (2702)
African - 6.47% (206)
Asian - 2.25% (72)
Native American - 1.10% (35)
Hispanic - 2.11% (67)
Indian - 0.63% (20)
Other - 2.44% (78)
Religions (Out of All ISOTed)
Jewish - 1.10% (35)
Mormon - 2.56% (82)
Muslim - 1.66% (53)
Protestant - 48.28% (1535)
Roman Catholic - 23.68% (753)
Other - 12.09% (384)
None - 10.64% (338)
Forum Lurker
December 9th, 2005, 05:45 AM
Hooray! We've got a minyan!
Psychomeltdown
December 10th, 2005, 03:51 AM
Here's my view of the statistics...
3180 People
MEN: 966
WOMEN: 908
CHILDREN: 1301
CONQUISTADORS (Shade and others) - Conquer and make an empire.
TOTAL: 53
MEN: 33
WOMEN: 17
CHILDREN: 3
HOMESTEADERS: Headed out on their own, but with no plans of conquest
TOTAL: 72
MEN: 29
WOMEN: 29
CHILDREN: 14
IAN'S APARTMENT: those staying at Ian's Apartment.
TOTAL: 272
MEN: 113
WOMEN: 108
CHILDREN: 51
IANOPOLIS: Those heading North.
TOTAL: 2782
MEN: 791
WOMEN: 754
CHILDREN: 1237
I went with a slightly higher male population, my guess is that people tended to have more sons? :D
Children is anyone under 16 yrs old.
Psychomeltdown
December 10th, 2005, 03:00 PM
People Who Have Chosen To Stay At Ian's Apartment
272 individuals, about 68 families, 52 of which are living in tents outside of the apartment.
IAN'S APARTMENT: those staying at Ian's Apartment.
TOTAL: 272
MEN: 113
WOMEN: 108
CHILDREN: 51
Y'know reading the first page of this, i realized Darkest already said about 68 families for Fort Ian's Apartment. Families in my opinion mean a wife, husband, and children.
So I guess I should redo my numbers...
TOTAL: 272
MEN: 104
WOMEN: 94
CHILDREN: 75
Psychomeltdown
December 10th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Here's my thinking on how things look, animalwise.
694 Large animals
694 Medium animals
252 Small animals
Large Animals
400 horses, 350 mares, 50 stallions.
75 donkeys, 65 female, 10 males
75 oxen, 65 female, 10 bulls
75 cattle. 65 female, 10 bulls
48 dairy cows, 40 cows, 8 bulls
20 llamas, 17 female, 3 male
1 buffalo male
Medium Animals
300 Pigs, 270 females, 30 males
250 Sheep 225 ewes, 25 rams
80 Goats 70 female, 10 male
64 Dogs 42 female, 22 male
Small Animals
162 Chickens 132 female, 30 male
53 Rabbits 36 female, 17 male
32 Cats 53 female, 9 male
5 Small Dogs 2 female. 3 male
CONQUISTADORS (Shade and others) - Conquer and make an empire.
TOTAL: 17 Board members
17 Large animals
13 Medium Animals
7 Small Animals
Large Animals
14 horses 8 female, 6 male
2 Donkeys 1 female, 1 male
1 Buffalo male
Medium Animals
8 Goats 5 female, 1 male
5 Dogs 3 female, 2 male
Small Animals
5 Chickens 4 female, 1 male
2 Cats 2 female
HOMESTEADERS: Headed out on their own, but with no plans of conquest
TOTAL: 29 Board members
29 Large animals
29 Medium animals
29 Small animals
10 Horses 8 female, 2 male
6 Donkeys 5 female, 1 male
8 oxen 6 female, 2 male
5 Dairy cows 4 female, 1 male
Medium Animals
14 pigs 12 female, 2 male
10 Sheep 8 female, 2 male
5 Dogs 3 female, 2 male
Small Animals
25 Chickens, 23 female, 2 male
4 Cats 2 female, 2 male
IAN'S APARTMENT: those staying at Ian's Apartment.
TOTAL: 90 Board members
90 Large animals
90 Medium animals
50 Small animals
Large Animals
35 Horses 30 female, 5 male
19 Cattle 15 female, 4 male
18 oxen 15 female, 3 male
18 Dairy cows 14 female, 2 male
Medium Animals
40 pigs 36 female, 4 male
40 Sheep 36 female, 4 male
10 Dogs 6 female, 4 male
Small Animals
36 Chickens, 30 female, 6 male
12 Cats 10 female, 2 male
2 Small Dogs 2 female
WHAT WAS TAKEN
135 Large animals
132 Medium animals
86 Small animals
Large Animals
58 horses, 45 mares, 13 stallions.
8 donkeys, 6 female, 2 males
26 oxen, 21 female, 5 bulls
19 cattle. 15 female, 4 bulls
23 dairy cows, 20 cows, 3 bulls
1 buffalo male
Medium Animals
54 Pigs, 48 females, 6 males
50 Sheep 44 ewes, 6 rams
8 Goats 5 female, 3 male
20 Dogs 12 female, 8 male
Small Animals
66 Chickens 57 female, 9 male
18 Cats 14 female, 4 male
2 Small Dogs 2 female
WHAT WE HAVE LEFT
559 Large Animals
562 Medium Animals
166 Small Animals
694 Large animals
694 Medium animals
252 Small animals
Large Animals
341 horses, 304 mares, 37 stallions.
67 donkeys, 59 female, 8 males
49 oxen, 44 female, 5 bulls
56 cattle. 50 female, 6 bulls
25 dairy cows, 20 cows, 5 bulls
20 llamas, 17 female, 3 male
Medium Animals
246 Pigs, 222 females, 24 males
200 Sheep 181 ewes, 19 rams
72 Goats 65 female, 9 male
44 Dogs 30 female, 14 male
Small Animals
96 Chickens 75 female, 21 male
53 Rabbits 36 female, 17 male
14 Cats 9 female, 5 male
3 Small Dogs 3 male
Matt
December 10th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Roxie a small dog for these purposes?
Psychomeltdown
December 10th, 2005, 10:14 PM
Roxie a small dog for these purposes?
figuring anything under 20 lbs is considered Small
SionEwig
December 11th, 2005, 01:16 AM
For the Main Group, change one of the large animals to a jack mule.
The_Leader
December 11th, 2005, 01:50 AM
DUDE THERE ARE NO FEMALE OXEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An ox is a castrated steer used for draft purposes.In really,simple terms
Its a bull not used for mating,or beef( as these are called steers) whos had his nuts wacked off so hei snt all that pissy when u make him work ok . Not to sound like a prick or any thing but have posted that like 2-3 already. So that means we have at most 75 more spots open if u dont take any ox and just make them as we need.Thou i would like to see at least a few.
Psychomeltdown
December 11th, 2005, 02:08 AM
DUDE THERE ARE NO FEMALE OXEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An ox is a castrated steer used for draft purposes.In really,simple terms
Its a bull not used for mating,or beef( as these are called steers) whos had his nuts wacked off so hei snt all that pissy when u make him work ok . Not to sound like a prick or any thing but have posted that like 2-3 already. So that means we have at most 75 more spots open if u dont take any ox and just make them as we need.Thou i would like to see at least a few.
Well, by oxen I'm probably meaning the bovines of the Genus Bos variety, which are pretty much heavy draft animals. Only calling them oxen because they will later become oxen, as we don't have enough to begin castrating them.
Ghost 88
December 11th, 2005, 03:25 AM
[quote=The_Leader]DUDE THERE ARE NO FEMALE OXEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An ox is a castrated steer used for draft purposes.In really,simple terms
A castrated steer? Is it just me or is there something wrong with this statement.
Psychomeltdown
December 11th, 2005, 06:44 PM
Some more problems to chew on...
WATER NEEDED PER PERSON/ANIMAL
People - 1 gal a day
Washing - 1 gal a day
Cooking - 1 gal a day
Bathing - 1 gal a day
Dogs/cat - 1 gal a day
Chickens/Rabbits - .5 gal a day
Dairy Cows - 5 gal a day
Pigs - 3 gal a day:
TOTAL FOR A DAY
People - 2780 gal a day
Washing - 2780 gal a day
Cooking - 2780 gal a day
Bathing - 2780 gal a day
Dogs/cats - 30 gal a day
Chickens/Rabbits - 20 gal a day
Dairy Cows - 125 gal a day
Pigs - 738 gal a day
TOTAL GAL: 12033
POUNDS OF WATER NEEDED TO BE HAULED
1 gallon of water weights 8.5 lbs (including thinG your hauling it in)
People - 23630 lbs
Washing - 2360 lbs
Cooking - 2360 lbs
Bathing - 2360 lbs
Dogs/cats - 3255 lbs
Chickens/Rabbits - 170 lbs
Dairy Cows - 1063 lbs
Pigs - 6273 lbs
TOTAL LBS: 102281
The Herd animals
Horses
Donkeys
Oxen
Cattle
Llamas
Sheep
Goats
can all be herded toward water, therefore don't necessarily need water brought to them.
How many personnel/animals do we need to begin mass hauling of water to the camp.
Need distance to creeks/rivers
Need large water containers, how many?
pisces74
December 11th, 2005, 07:44 PM
Due to the wetland areas surrounding the camp water for once isn't as big a problem as food, as long as you have pure water. (water purifers) however with all the living going on in the area the water in the nearby vacinity will probably become corrupted (if it hasn't already) thus my constant harping of needing to head north as soon as possible. In fact if Ward becomes incapacitated in game, I'll probably strike off on my own again with Jen.
Psychomeltdown
December 11th, 2005, 07:49 PM
Due to the wetland areas surrounding the camp water for once isn't as big a problem as food, as long as you have pure water. (water purifers) however with all the living going on in the area the water in the nearby vacinity will probably become corrupted (if it hasn't already) thus my constant harping of needing to head north as soon as possible. In fact if Ward becomes incapacitated in game, I'll probably strike off on my own again with Jen.
We'll need to start establishing Zones of usage in the River, creeks and pons in the area.
Has anyone drawn up a map of the area, even if it's a pretend one?
We'll be needing a shit load of wood to boil the water, we can't use any of the purifying tablets or whatever as of yet, they'll be needed on the trial when we won't have time to boil water to make sure it's safe to drink.
Othniel
December 17th, 2005, 05:21 AM
Here we are, this will help with the great trek north.
Norbert
December 17th, 2005, 05:27 AM
Here we are, this will help with the great trek north.
Did you post a link or something? I am not showing anything except your comment.
Othniel
December 17th, 2005, 05:30 AM
Did you post a link or something? I am not showing anything except your comment.
The information in this thread is needed. I bumped it to help with our plans.
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