[ALT] Our Fearless Leaders

[Dave Howery]

well, once we have our lists and plans in place, we'll need leaders to get everyone organized. So, who's the best for this? Some are obvious... we need Ward as Head Farmer, Glenn Finney as Tzar of Health and Sanitation... what else? A Chief Lumberjack would be nice. Head of Sanitation? Head of Construction? How many people, and what areas of responsibility are really needed?

[Flocculencio]

I could organise the livestock guards and security force*, or alternatively take over education once we're settled in or on our feet.

*I only suggest this since it looks like I'm the only one with military training who doesn't really have any other immediately useful skills such as hunting or farming. If any of the other military trained members would be better suited for this I'd be glad to serve as an "NCO".

[Ward]

well, once we have our lists and plans in place, we'll need leaders to get everyone organized. So, who's the best for this? Some are obvious... we need Ward as Head Farmer, Glenn Finney as Tzar of Health and Sanitation... what else? A Chief Lumberjack would be nice. Head of Sanitation? Head of Construction? How many people, and what areas of responsibility are really needed?



I would put Norbert in charge of the Lumberjacks . He lived on a tree Farm as he was growing up .

[Glen]

well, once we have our lists and plans in place, we'll need leaders to get everyone organized. So, who's the best for this? Some are obvious... we need Ward as Head Farmer, Glenn Finney as Tzar of Health and Sanitation... what else? A Chief Lumberjack would be nice. Head of Sanitation? Head of Construction? How many people, and what areas of responsibility are really needed?

Just call me Surgeon General<g>.

Ward as Chief of Agriculture sounds fine.

General Paul Head of the Navy? (mostly, we need fishing boats, GP)

Lumberjack/Construction can probably be the same person (don't know who).

Who has the most military experience? We need someone to be point man for organizing our defenses.

Our initial government might as well be direct democracy...we're too small for now to warrent representational government, though an executive council wouldn't be a bad idea.

Ian should chair the 'town hall' meetings...he has the most experience keeping us all civil.:rolleyes:

We need a sheriff, someone we all trust and find even handed and fair.

[Flocculencio]

Who has the most military experience? We need someone to be point man for organizing our defenses.

I'd think Ward or WeaponM would be the best choices. Ward's going to be busy teaching people how to farm though so WeaponM would be my bet.

What about education...there are going to be children along and we can't afford to keep them in the fields all the time if we want to preserve some civilization.

[jolo]

In the small settlement close to Ian's home, I could coordinate trade. I'd try to run a market not only for goods, but also for community work, one time jobs, and the likes.

I'd also be willing to learn the local languages and teach the locals English and a few other useful skills, so that they can more easily take jobs on farms and in other places. I'll also use the opportunity to make them try our doctors and whatever else can be useful to get trade going.

It might be useful to give them a few of our seeds - if they aren't hungry, we will also not be hungry. And if they don't like the fruits, they can get some of our surplus goods for them.

My fish ponds should produce quite a lot of fish from the beginning without taking the food away from the locals at the coast.

[Glen]

I'd think Ward or WeaponM would be the best choices. Ward's going to be busy teaching people how to farm though so WeaponM would be my bet.

What about education...there are going to be children along and we can't afford to keep them in the fields all the time if we want to preserve some civilization.

Well, I can do some teaching as well, though probably best for the older kids...I forgot to mention a stint as a substitute teacher....

[Bulgaroktonos]

MBarry, if he is coming may be a good choice for defense leader.

Glen as our health.

Sanitation is more of a logistics situation. I don't think we need to over bureaucratize our new society. It should be folded into construction, which should include planning under its umbrella.

Ward as agriculture.

Then we need logistics/labor coordinator. We need somebody to simply be able to tally what is done, being done, and needs doing. I.E. if we are ahead of schedule on housing, but planting needs more labor then we should have somebody to focus on collecting that knowledge and then applying it.

Also, resource coordinator, that can tally our pooled resources and allocate them effectively based on the needs passed on from the logisitics coordinator.

They of course would have to be based on the fact that the individual leaders are going to need to tell the two coordinators their situation on a near daily basis.

[jolo]

MBarry, if he is coming may be a good choice for defense leader.

Glen as our health.

Sanitation is more of a logistics situation. I don't think we need to over bureaucratize our new society. It should be folded into construction, which should include planning under its umbrella.

Ward as agriculture.

Then we need logistics/labor coordinator. We need somebody to simply be able to tally what is done, being done, and needs doing. I.E. if we are ahead of schedule on housing, but planting needs more labor then we should have somebody to focus on collecting that knowledge and then applying it.

Also, resource coordinator, that can tally our pooled resources and allocate them effectively based on the needs passed on from the logisitics coordinator.

They of course would have to be based on the fact that the individual leaders are going to need to tell the two coordinators their situation on a near daily basis.

For the main village, the ressource coordinator should be the one watching the community storage. He could also coordinate a "job market" according to guidelines set by the community.

The southern outpost will do all of that automatically by trade and a job and ressource market coordinated by market prices. We won't have much community property (like a truck or so) anyways.

[Bulgaroktonos]

For the main village, the ressource coordinator should be the one watching the community storage. He could also coordinate a "job market" according to guidelines set by the community.

The southern outpost will do all of that automatically by trade and a job and ressource market coordinated by market prices. We won't have much community property (like a truck or so) anyways.

Actually, I think we are going to have an insane amount of community property.

For example. If you are put on agriculture duty, but you brought an ax, your ax is going to be useless to you. Thus, we should have either one or two people that can coordinate all the little things we have. Like the number of axes that we have, or the number of saws. If we have one group working lumber and one on houses, we need to know how many we have, and how many saws can be used effectively in one area so as to maximize productivity in the other, or to sit in reserve for unseen emergencies.

Of course there would be a leger of items that would return the communal implements to their rightful owner.

[jolo]

Actually, I think we are going to have an insane amount of community property.

For example. If you are put on agriculture duty, but you brought an ax, your ax is going to be useless to you. Thus, we should have either one or two people that can coordinate all the little things we have. Like the number of axes that we have, or the number of saws. If we have one group working lumber and one on houses, we need to know how many we have, and how many saws can be used effectively in one area so as to maximize productivity in the other, or to sit in reserve for unseen emergencies.

Of course there would be a leger of items that would return the communal implements to their rightful owner.

As most people will have most tools themselves, it's not necessary to do it on a community basis. I'll put up everything I don't need for sale or to let, and from the income, I buy what I need. Much easier, no trouble if sth. breaks, and so on. The specialists have the same access to what they need (even more, as everything will be on the market, not just community goods), except that there's less broken equipment.

Does that mean you want to join me in the 1st settlement? :)

[Dave Howery]

Of course there would be a leger of items that would return the communal implements to their rightful owner.
yeah, and how many of you remembered to put some notebooks and pencils on your lists? I did! Ha Ha!

of course, I haven't posted it yet, and it's insanely long and detailed, but hey...

[Glen]

MBarry, if he is coming may be a good choice for defense leader.

MBarry apparently is coming...whether he is playing is a different issue...:D

Glen as our health.

Sanitation is more of a logistics situation. I don't think we need to over bureaucratize our new society. It should be folded into construction, which should include planning under its umbrella.

Maybe a joint task, for me and our construction people. I am definitely going to make certain we have a proper latrine system to begin with, and that our water supplies are remaining uncontaminated, and that we have a regular system for getting rid of trash...

Ward as agriculture.

Then we need logistics/labor coordinator. We need somebody to simply be able to tally what is done, being done, and needs doing. I.E. if we are ahead of schedule on housing, but planting needs more labor then we should have somebody to focus on collecting that knowledge and then applying it.

Also, resource coordinator, that can tally our pooled resources and allocate them effectively based on the needs passed on from the logisitics coordinator.

Good point...who is insanely organized in our merry group?

They of course would have to be based on the fact that the individual leaders are going to need to tell the two coordinators their situation on a near daily basis.

Yep.

[Glen]

Yeah, we're going to need to figure something out for paper...and for printing (can we maybe get an old fashioned printing press?)...

Also, we are woefully underestimating the need for clothes and other textiles, especially with the number of children that are going to be in our midst...

[Forum Lurker]

We are bringing sheep, hopefully in large numbers. Cotton does grow in the US, though I'm not sure if it's native to California.

[Darkest]

Hey, my dad is the CEO of a company that finds jobs for people... maybe he could be a logistics person? Call him Mr. Carpenter or something.

He'll begin the Carpenter regime, and I'll inherit the throne! Mwahaha! ;)

Also, I am bringing enough equipment to set up an 'electric house' with solar panels to get electricity, as well as a very top-market computer that will contain all the How-To manuals we'll ever need in CD/DVD form. I'll keep some refrigerators and medical equipment in there as well, and some other miscellaneous electric equipment. Later, we can move it to a temple and start worshipping the Glorious Computer.

Besides that, this will help a lot with logistics and such. I could also bring a rechargable laptop that can be used around the field, used to keep organization as to who is where.

[Psychomeltdown]

I'm looking for a position of Hunter or Herder. Mainly because I've grown upon a ranch, herd sheep for most of my childhood, herd cattle when older, went to Team Ropings in Rodeos with my dad and uncles, and hunted often when growing up, i can butcher animals.

I'm also fairly organized, I've had data entry jobs for the couple of years.

[Othniel]

I'd like to be part of the consturtion and planning group but not the head of it. I have started drawing up an easy way to organize buildings, roads, and homes. So if possible I'd like to deal in areas like that...

Just choose a central point and we'll move out from there...

[Matt]

Who has the most military experience? We need someone to be point man for organizing our defenses.


M has the most experence commanding a militia, and I have the most combat experence(besides Ward) on the board, so one of us I would assume.

[Matt]

Nevermind, I see that my name was mentioned:p

I'm playing, just been at drill all weekend. How appropriate;)

Pyscho, if you're gonna play sheppard, You better take good care of Roxie. Or it's your ass!

[Norbert]

I have been looging off and on since about 1972. I also have some experience building buildings, and do know a little of the technique of using pegs to hold things together (saves nails). I have also made cedar shingles, and squared logs for use, and have studied the use of sawing pits in place of a proper mill. I also did time in the USMC, so I could aid in defense.

[Matt]

I have been looging off and on since about 1972. I also have some experience building buildings, and do know a little of the technique of using pegs to hold things together (saves nails). I have also made cedar shingles, and squared logs for use, and have studied the use of sawing pits in place of a proper mill. I also did time in the USMC, so I could aid in defense.


Norbert, you have to many skills to be fodder. Anyone can be a butcher and anyone with a strong arm would do fine smithing, so I can be spared for the militia. You and ward are way to important.

[Othniel]

M has the most experence commanding a militia, and I have the most combat experence(besides Ward) on the board, so one of us I would assume.
I'd say Weapon M, having practice in organization a millitia (and with a group of civillians this will be the case) should be the first to take the job. After that I think we should go by rank or years in service.

[Norbert]

Norbert, you have to many skills to be fodder. Anyone can be a butcher and anyone with a strong arm would do fine smithing, so I can be spared for the militia. You and ward are way to important.

Ward and I are a little old to be cannon fodder, anyway, though if I am going to be logging, or something, I am going to have a sidearm and rifle near by!

[Psychomeltdown]

Pyscho, if you're gonna play sheppard, You better take good care of Roxie. Or it's your ass!
Well do, Good Buddy.

As long as she does her job. :D

[Matt]

Well do, Good Buddy.

As long as she does her job. :D


She does the impossible, she routinely herds cats. She'll do just fine. She's also a great ratter. When she was puppy we had a mole infestation in the backyard. IN a few weeks we brought every single one inside as a present for me. No more moles. Cats are her main enemies now, but she does occasionally get squirells.

[Psychomeltdown]

She does the impossible, she routinely herds cats. She'll do just fine. She's also a great ratter. When she was puppy we had a mole infestation in the backyard. IN a few weeks we brought every single one inside as a present for me. No more moles. Cats are her main enemies now, but she does occasionally get squirells.
Cool. Hopefully we'll be managing the sheep and cattle herds. We'll need plenty of guard dogs.

I wonder if anyone's bringing llama? Back home they're some of the best guard animals. Even better than dogs at keeping wolves and coyotes away from herds.

[General_Paul]

Actualluy, prior to the founding of the shipyards, I'd much rather be a school teacher. So, put me down for education, then once we have the manpower, and the resources, I'll go down and construct my shipyards.

[Leej]

Shipyards?
It'll be many generations before we get that far with only a few dozen people...

I could go with construction I suppose. My dad is a carpenter and I've worked with him quite a bit, helped to make the conservatory,etc....

[Hendryk]

Unless someone qualified volunteers as well, I wouldn't mind taking care of the logistics department. My real-life job involves a lot of that already, and it's obvious that careful management of what equipment and spare parts we have is going to be critically important.
If any team is formed whose job would be relations with the natives, I'd like to be part of it. I could finally put my academic knowledge of international relations and political science to practical use.