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XanXar
December 21st, 2011, 11:56 AM
is it possible for the timurid empire to survive a few generatons then it did , or even possibly to the imperial age ? also how far would this empire stretch? btw the mughals do not count.

Rainbow Sparkle
December 21st, 2011, 02:47 PM
is it possible for the timurid empire to survive a few generatons then it did , or even possibly to the imperial age ? also how far would this empire stretch? btw the mughals do not count.

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=223682

should answer some of that.

XanXar
December 21st, 2011, 03:44 PM
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=223682

should answer some of that.
that forums quite small and thats just for a state. Im talking about the empire

LSCatilina
December 21st, 2011, 03:46 PM
that forums quite small and thats just for a state. Im talking about the empire

There is not such great difference. "State" is to be taken here as a synonym of "country".

Nassirisimo
December 21st, 2011, 03:47 PM
I don't think so. The empire was largely built around one man, Timur the Lame. To see a continuation of it would require someone of his ability to keep tribal loyalties in check and people scared, but seeing as how Timur was an extremely capable ruler, having another like him straight after him is near-ASB.

XanXar
December 21st, 2011, 03:49 PM
There is not such great difference. "State" is to be taken here as a synonym of "country".
yeah, a state could be mean a dwindled uzbekistan, im talking about something that controls majority of transoxiana (sorry if the spellings wrong)

LSCatilina
December 21st, 2011, 03:54 PM
yeah, a state could be mean a dwindled uzbekistan, im talking about something that controls majority of transoxiana (sorry if the spellings wrong)

Have you actually read the topic?

scholar
December 21st, 2011, 03:59 PM
I don't think so. The empire was largely built around one man, Timur the Lame. To see a continuation of it would require someone of his ability to keep tribal loyalties in check and people scared, but seeing as how Timur was an extremely capable ruler, having another like him straight after him is near-ASB.
The same was true with Genghis Khan, but sir-Temujin's death didn't stop Mongol Expansionism, even if it did lay the seeds for it falling apart after a few more generations.

XanXar
December 21st, 2011, 04:48 PM
I don't think so. The empire was largely built around one man, Timur the Lame. To see a continuation of it would require someone of his ability to keep tribal loyalties in check and people scared, but seeing as how Timur was an extremely capable ruler, having another like him straight after him is near-ASB.

Sounds like the only possibilty is for babur to succesfully reconquer samarkand and name his dynasty as timurid instead of mughal