(Bourbon) Kingdom of Brittany

[Aussey]

At the outbreak of the French Revolution, King Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette and fellow monarchists flee to the Austrian Netherlands. Monarchists Armies take Brittany and Normandy. The Holy Roman Empire declares support for the monarchists, and they form the "French Kingdom of Brittany" making Louis XVI king.

The Treaty of Salzburg ends the revolution, with the French Republic recognizing the sovereignty of Brittany. Louis XVI returns. Marie Antoinette gives birth to a healthy baby boy: the future Francois III.

The Kingdom of Brittany evolves much like the France of our timeline, while maintaning its monarchy. Louis XVI dies in 1800, and Francois III succeds his father, under the Regency of Marie Antoinette.

By the twentieth century, Brittany had become a major world power. With the Canadian Civil War in 1920, Quebec seded from Canada, and the monarchists Quebecois came in power, offering the throne to the King of Brittany, to replace the King of Great Britain. Britain recognized Quebecois independance, and Louis XXI was declared "King of Quebec" though he holds no power.

At the outbreak of the Great War (1940-1949) Brittany and Quebec joined the allies, defeating the Axis Powers of the French Republic, German Empire, Russian Empire, and Ottoman Empire. Communisim took root in Germany (instead of Russia, which retained a consitutional monarchy under Olga, as Catherine III) which became the Federation of Socialist German States (FSGS.) The rivalry between Capitalist Britain and Communist Germany now divides the world, with the major powers, including the USA, Quebec, Canada, and Brittany, in leage with Britain. The rivalry is referred to as the "Anglo-German Rivalry."

[benedict XVII]

At the outbreak of the French Revolution, King Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette and fellow monarchists flee to the Austrian Netherlands. Monarchists Armies take Brittany and Normandy. The Holy Roman Empire declares support for the monarchists, and they form the "French Kingdom of Brittany" making Louis XVI king.



Interesting thread. You're one of the most creative on this board.

This said, technical issue. With the Brabant revolution in 1789, Louis XVI and M-A could not have found refuge in the Austrian Netherlands (actually during that time period, the "Etats-Belgiques-Unis"). Maybe you send them to Switzerland, Savoy or the UK instead? Actually, Luxembourg staid under Austrian control, so also a possibility.

[Aussey]

Interesting thread. You're one of the most creative on this board.

Thanks!!!

This said, technical issue. With the Brabant revolution in 1789, Louis XVI and M-A could not have found refuge in the Austrian Netherlands

Revolting against the Habsburgs! :eek: I did not know that....

(actually during that time period, the "Etats-Belgiques-Unis").

"United States of Belgium" ??? wiki shows nothing...whats this about???

Maybe you send them to Switzerland,

Protestant, anti-Habsburg probably...

Savoy

Maybe....

or the UK instead?

...

Actually, Luxembourg staid under Austrian control, so also a possibility.

Retain Luxembough as a Habsburg, and later Federal Austrian state...heh...thats a whole 'nother timeline....but this is the most plausible idea I'd guess...

[benedict XVII]

Revolting against the Habsburgs! :eek: I did not know that....



"United States of Belgium" ??? wiki shows nothing...whats this about???



I don't know in English, but in French you could google for "Révolution brabançonne". Basically, in the aftermath of the events in Paris, the Belgian provinces successfully revolted against Joseph II in August-September 1789. It was a strange coalition of liberals, led by a Mr. Vonck inspired by the French Revolution to reject Joseph II's absolutist inclinations, and of the conservatives, led by a Mr. Vandernoot who wanted to preserve the local privileges threatened by Joseph II's attempts at modernization, religious toleration, and control over the Catholic Church.

The name of "United Belgian States" was clearly inspired from the US to reflect the confederal nature of the ensemble (Flanders, Brabant, Hainault, Namur, etc.) In parallel, the Liégeois had gotten rid of their Prince-Bishop in their own revolution.

Eventually, the conflicts between the liberals and the conservatives made the new country unmanageable, and the only able Belgian General, Maxence Vandermeersch was exiled together with other liberal leaders. Meanwhile, Joseph II had died and his brother Leopold II succeeded him. The Austrian armies who had taken refuge in Luxembourg won a couple of engagements in the course of 1790, and Leopold made reasonable proposals to the conservatives to agree to a restoration.

After that, the Austrians were defeated by the French in 1792, kicked them out in 1793 and were again defeated by Dumouriez in 1794 (or 5?)

[Wendell]

I like the idea of this leadership in Brittany intermarrying with the English, "reuniting" Little Britain with Great Britain.

[NFR]

What's the chance of Bonny leaving a French-speaking kingdom on the channel alone? Assuming he still comes into the picture with this biggist PoD.

[Wendell]

What's the chance of Bonny leaving a French-speaking kingdom on the channel alone? Assuming he still comes into the picture with this biggist PoD.
The answer is none at all, but I could be mistaken.

[leopardseal7]

Mo' Better Britanny? I've been wondering for years whether Britanny exists in the first place because the bacaudae booted out the Romans, the landlords and the Franks. So when Roman Britain started to fall apart, what with the Angles and Saxons, the removal of the Roman troops, and the general detioration of the infrastructure, there was a mass migration to the nearest stable places where people spoke the same language and there were fewer looters and rapists with big, blond moustaches.

Granted, Gildas is pretty crabby about Brit princes in general. But if you look at things like the lives of St. Guenolus and St. Germanus, it's at least a plausible hypothesis.

After the retreat of the legions from Britain, it sounds like Britannia was the Superdome and Armorica was a lot more like Houston. Not an ideal situation, mind you, but a definite improvement.