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meninwhite
September 2nd, 2005, 07:22 AM
In a book Alexander lives to 50 i think and conquers India,China,Carthage,Arabia,Sythia and Italy his Empire becomes very orintal with the offical Religon Buhddisim,Hannable discovers Atlantis(THe New World)
Here's my idea They istablish colonies in Florida,Cuba,Bahmahs,most of The Mississipi they establish New Alexanderia they have wars with Native tribes.
The Battle of The West Nile (Mississippi river)
Greek Forces Native forces
Troops 500,000 ; ; ; ; Troops 90,000
Caverlry 200,000 ; ; ; ; Cavelry 40,000
Mahots(War elephants) 300 &nb sp; &nb sp;
The NAtives win by supior arrows
Cockroach
September 5th, 2005, 01:11 AM
Greek Forces Native forces
Troops 500,000 ; ; ; ; Troops 90,000
Caverlry 200,000 ; ; ; ; Cavelry 40,000
Mahots(War elephants) 300 &nb sp; &nb sp;
The NAtives win by supior arrows
1. 7000,000 men vs 130,000 men, seems at least an order of magnitude too large for a colonial army vs native tribes, specially when we are talking about part of North America rather than Centeral America (note to meninwhite: most of the significant American civilisations came from centeral America).
2. How long post settlement is this? evidently a half century or so given that the natives have cavalry.
3. The Native americans are if anything going to have inferior bows& arrows (remember the Greeks have occupied Persia and so can draw on some bloody formidable archers armed with composite bows).
Straha
September 5th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Wait explain HOW Alexander is able to keep all that land in his empire? I don't think its possible without at least a 19th century level of tech to have an empire THAT big
Flocculencio
September 5th, 2005, 03:53 AM
Wait explain HOW Alexander is able to keep all that land in his empire? I don't think its possible without at least a 19th century level of tech to have an empire THAT big
they obviously discovered that most elusive of elements, handwavium.
Straha
September 5th, 2005, 04:30 AM
Heh. Figures. Handwavium powered zeppelins bringing the greek empire around the world?
Flocculencio
September 5th, 2005, 04:47 AM
Heh. Figures. Handwavium powered zeppelins bringing the greek empire around the world?
Yeah- well if they hit some Alien Space Bat guano deposits they might have been able to refine enough handwavium.
chunkeymonkey13q
September 5th, 2005, 05:42 PM
I agree, this timeline does not seem very likely. Alexander's army was unhappy being so far from their homes when they were stationed in India and so I doubt even Alexander, one of the greatest generals of all time, would be able to persuade his men to travel across the Pacific, conquer the Americas and remain there long enough to establish an Empire.
Soyuz
September 5th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Wow, with that size the invasion army can even put Napoleon's Grande Armee to shame. And I'm not even talking about the Natives...
Superdude
September 5th, 2005, 06:45 PM
Yeah- well if they hit some Alien Space Bat guano deposits they might have been able to refine enough handwavium.
There's a Handwavium deposit in the back of my house. We bought it for 10 bucks from a gypsy.....
Flocculencio
September 5th, 2005, 07:16 PM
I agree, this timeline does not seem very likely. Alexander's army was unhappy being so far from their homes when they were stationed in India and so I doubt even Alexander, one of the greatest generals of all time, would be able to persuade his men to travel across the Pacific, conquer the Americas and remain there long enough to establish an Empire.
Well I don't think he was positing that they would do that right after conquering the Old World. He seems to be suggesting that Hannibal leads the expedition to the New World.
[Shameless self-advertisement] I've got a TL and storyline where Alexander does conquer India (see my sig) [/Shameless self-advertisement] but IMHO India is the farthest he could possibly have gone.
chunkeymonkey13q
September 5th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Whoops, yes that is right Hannibal would be leading this expedition. I still do not think it would work, however, as that is just to much territory to control and the army would be spread to thin, too far from home and everything and everyone they knew to be content. He could perhaps have destroyed his ships upon landing in the new world like Cortez, but I can see the army revolting and gradually intermingling with the native populations.
Flocculencio
September 5th, 2005, 07:34 PM
Whoops, yes that is right Hannibal would be leading this expedition. I still do not think it would work, however, as that is just to much territory to control and the army would be spread to thin, too far from home and everything and everyone they knew to be content. He could perhaps have destroyed his ships upon landing in the new world like Cortez, but I can see the army revolting and gradually intermingling with the native populations.
Oh definitely- I'm not contesting that. Anyway due to butterflies, Hannibal would most likely not be around.
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