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meninwhite
September 1st, 2005, 02:20 AM
Cleopatra and Anthony had a dream where both Rome and Egypt rueld the World,exeteding from Britan to The Indus like the Austria-Hungary Empire this combined Roman power with Egyptian Culture and Religion,With there great with there Joint Army could Invade India and try to conquer where Alexander did not.If Occtavians Propoganda failed than it might have been possible.
Imajin
September 1st, 2005, 02:21 AM
Well, first they have to get through Parthia before they get to India..
meninwhite
September 1st, 2005, 02:29 AM
If Anthony had conquerd Parthia, and had Occtavains Propoganda failed to conveence them she olaned to Conquer Rome and it was made into a Roman Egyptian World then a Combined force of Egyptians and Romans could have been able to conquer India
Imajin
September 1st, 2005, 02:32 AM
If Anthony had conquerd Parthia, and had Occtavains Propoganda failed to conveence them she olaned to Conquer Rome and it was made into a Roman Egyptian World then a Combined force of Egyptians and Romans could have been able to conquer India
But the Romans would have trouble holding on the Parthia (look at their experience with only Mesopotamia OTL), enough that going into India would be too hard for them without losing Parthia/Persia, and if they lose Persia they can't get to India...
Aussey
September 1st, 2005, 02:34 AM
Cleopatra would rule de facto, if not, half in her own right...
robertp6165
September 1st, 2005, 03:18 AM
But the Romans would have trouble holding on the Parthia (look at their experience with only Mesopotamia OTL), enough that going into India would be too hard for them without losing Parthia/Persia, and if they lose Persia they can't get to India...
If (and this is a big IF) the Romans could have conquered Parthia, I don't doubt they could have held onto it, just like they held onto the territories of numerous other very warlike peoples. The Romans had a simple but effective strategy for holding onto conquered territory...Brutally repress any sign of rebellion, suppress the native culture, encourage the locals to join the Roman mainstream...in other words, Romanize them. Works every time. :cool:
The only reason Rome had a hard time holding onto Mesopotamia is because it DIDN'T take Parthia. The Parthians had a secure base into which to retreat, regroup, and then come back and make trouble in Mesopotamia. If the Parthian homeland had been conquered and occupied, they would not have had that luxury.
LordKalvan
September 1st, 2005, 11:27 PM
Additionally, the traditional Roman empire had different strategic fronts to cover. Most of the times, Mesopotamia was sacrificed to the demands for troops in Moesia, Dacia and Germania.
An early separation of the Roman empire into an Eastern and a Western part would have make easier to cope with strategy.
Plus, Alexandria is much closer to Parthia.
The big if is this one: can the western and eastern parts of the Roman polity stay firendly enough?
Midgard
September 2nd, 2005, 04:30 PM
Additionally, the traditional Roman empire had different strategic fronts to cover. Most of the times, Mesopotamia was sacrificed to the demands for troops in Moesia, Dacia and Germania.
An early separation of the Roman empire into an Eastern and a Western part would have make easier to cope with strategy.
Plus, Alexandria is much closer to Parthia.
The big if is this one: can the western and eastern parts of the Roman polity stay firendly enough?
As far as division of the Empire into East and West several centuries earlier, it almost seems that the East is in better position for conquering, since it borders relatively rich Parthia and surrounding lands, which are ripe targets for conquest should sufficiently concerned effort be made; the West does not have the kind of potential targets that offer the same payoff as the East. Sure, there is Ireland and Scotland, Germany, Scandinavia, what is now Ukraine and whatnot, but there is little of interest to the Romans there, unless they do conquest for conquest's sake, or unless they find one of the peoples there to be such a major potential danger to Rome that they have to be conquered for the Empire's safety. Then again, giving the Empire a xenophobic, ultra-paranoid outlook that "everything that we do not own is a danger to us" could allow for conquest of even relatively worthless territories, especially if it is combined with better than OTL medicine and population expansion that results in need of new territories to settle citizens or, better yet, army veterans on. Then the West could keep up with the East and eventually be only succeptable to internal dissent, and its counterpart, as it would have simply eradicated anything that is not "Roman" (and that is, consequently, a dangerous threat, if this is the line of thinking they adopt).
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