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Redem
August 18th, 2005, 10:31 PM
The ASB make few hundreds islands of various side (Nothing bigger than Hawaii) in the Northern pacific at the 5000 years. SO now the North half of the atlantic look a lot like Oceania

Rabbit Scribe
August 18th, 2005, 11:54 PM
The ASB make few hundreds islands of various side (Nothing bigger than Hawaii) in the Northern pacific at the 5000 years. SO now the North half of the atlantic look a lot like Oceania

Parse much?

Darkest
August 19th, 2005, 01:09 AM
Wait, you mention the Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean at the same time. So where do the islands appear? AO or PO?

And: When people fail to understand you, make a map!

Imajin
August 19th, 2005, 01:15 AM
So something like this?

Darkest
August 19th, 2005, 01:29 AM
I bet an earlier discovery of the Americas is very plausible now that there are some 'rest stops'. Maybe even the Roman Empire could have discovered the continent, if not the Greeks or Egyptians.

Redem
August 19th, 2005, 03:25 AM
Would interesting since the conflict between native and european (if they had traverse during the antiquity) would be a lot equal.

Rabbit Scribe
August 19th, 2005, 02:57 PM
I bet an earlier discovery of the Americas is very plausible now that there are some 'rest stops'. Maybe even the Roman Empire could have discovered the continent, if not the Greeks or Egyptians.

I would go so far as to say ancient contact between the hemispheres would be inevitable, probably as early as the Phoenicians. So all the benefits of the New World crops like potatoes for people and maize for cattle are reaped two-and-a-half millennia early. The Mediterranean Latin peoples would probably be dominant, with Western Europe comprised of second-rate powers.

Cockroach
August 22nd, 2005, 02:19 AM
Likely the first 'exploration' takes the form of Cletic or Iberian tribes island hopping across like the Pacific's Polynesians. Given the likely lack of resources on these islands metalworking probably declines in the sea going tribes meaning that little useful knowlage is transmitted to the native americans.
Assuming butterflies don't get too big then likely the Phoenicians will explore the islands and steadily push across the Atlantic- however given the questionable economic situation of the islands this will likely be slow.

Forum Lurker
August 22nd, 2005, 04:10 AM
The Phoenicians sailed as far as Cornwall for tin; they'll certainly keep up contact with Mesoamerica once they've found gold. I'd postulate the first major settlements being in the Phoenician period, with the Romans establishing colonies as they did in Britain, and ironworking will have reached every corner of the Americas by the fall of the Empire.

Darkest
August 22nd, 2005, 04:51 AM
And after a few millenia, scientists will start questioning why the North Atlantic island chain is so similiar to the Indonesian one...

Actually, didn't humans get to Indonesia by island-hopping? Maybe precivilization man could have crossed inbetween the Americas and Europe.

Argh, butterflies galore.