ASBs Destroy the USA East Coast

[Imajin]

Based off a conversation in the Washington DC ISOT thread...

ASBs wipe out every US state with a coastline on the Atlantic, as well as Pennsylvania and Conneticut (which, IIRC, technically don't have Atlantic coasts, but I still count them as East Coast), and replace them with open water. What happens?

[Othniel]

Based off a conversation in the Washington DC ISOT thread...

ASBs wipe out every US state with a coastline on the Atlantic, as well as Pennsylvania and Conneticut (which, IIRC, technically don't have Atlantic coasts, but I still count them as East Coast), and replace them with open water. What happens?
Ohio takes its place as the rightful ruler of the Sea, New Orleans is now recieving much of the trade.

[Othniel]

(minus the economic, and Political damage of lossing Boston, New York and Washington) Though Ultimately the USA rebuilds to become better than ever.

[DarkSlavik]

well besided chaos, utter anarchy, military rule, secession, me conquering places. Its going to be a brave new world, I just may move on up to canada.

[Imajin]

(minus the economic, and Political damage of lossing Boston, New York and Washington) Though Ultimately the USA rebuilds to become better than ever.
Actually, I believe Washington, DC is now an island...

[GBW]

Well, Vermont suddenly has a coastline and is somewhat detached from the rest of the US. The coastline is now roughly in the Appalachians, though Detroit, Cleveland, Toledo, etc., are now ocean ports, and likely will be the only ones along the entire east coast for a while since developing new ports in eastern Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama... that's one sharp-edged looking coastline...

The above formerly Great Lake ports, as well as those on the Gulf of Mexico, will suddenly have to take the brunt of the Atlantic shipping and likely won't be able to handle it for quite a while until they're expanded. All this is without mentioning the loss of industry, cultural landmarks, history, Washington, D.C., and population which is one of the US's biggest domestic markets. Catastrophe for a while, I'd say. Everything east of the Mississippi might wither for lack of all that infrastructure and the reverbarations will be felt all the way to the Pacific coast.

[Othniel]

Well, Vermont suddenly has a coastline and is somewhat detached from the rest of the US. The coastline is now roughly in the Appalachians, though Detroit, Cleveland, Toledo, etc., are now ocean ports, and likely will be the only ones along the entire east coast for a while since developing new ports in eastern Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama... that's one sharp-edged looking coastline...

The above formerly Great Lake ports, as well as those on the Gulf of Mexico, will suddenly have to take the brunt of the Atlantic shipping and likely won't be able to handle it for quite a while until they're expanded. All this is without mentioning the loss of industry, cultural landmarks, history, Washington, D.C., and population which is one of the US's biggest domestic markets. Catastrophe for a while, I'd say. Everything east of the Mississippi might wither for lack of all that infrastructure and the reverbarations will be felt all the way to the Pacific coast.
I doubt. The State infastructs are pretty sound.

[Psychomeltdown]

would the southern States, Texas, Miss. etc. all be wiped out too? They after-all are technically bordering upon the Atlantic ocean...

[GBW]

I doubt. The State infastructs are pretty sound.
The roads and, to some extent, the railroads, but that's a serious loss of port facilities and airports facing the Atlantic. Great Lake ports, New Orleans and the Texas coast aren't going to come close to making up for all of that. They'd be inundated with shipping; you'd see hundreds of cargo freighters backed up outside of all those cities. Then there's all the military forces that would be lost along with all those states, including naval facilities, military bases, the HQs at the Pentagon, Florida, etc.

[GBW]

would the southern States, Texas, Miss. etc. all be wiped out too? They after-all are technically bordering upon the Atlantic ocean...
Technically, I guess they border on the Gulf of Mexico. If they are wiped out, then the US is even more screwed.

[Othniel]

The roads and, to some extent, the railroads, but that's a serious loss of port facilities and airports facing the Atlantic. Great Lake ports, New Orleans and the Texas coast aren't going to come close to making up for all of that. They'd be inundated with shipping; you'd see hundreds of cargo freighters backed up outside of all those cities. Then there's all the military forces that would be lost along with all those states, including naval facilities, military bases, the HQs at the Pentagon, Florida, etc.
Still the West Coast still has all it needs, most resouces on the East Coast are redendant to the USA and We still have West Viriginia. Besides according to Imajin the District of Columbia doesn't count. It isn't a state, and is in fact apart from the states. Everything in the district would remain. We can still compensate with gulf and great lake ports for a time, and if they don't fit send them to California and Oregon. We also probablely have a millitary infilsturture in place in case of occupation of the East Coast that would come into exsistance. Regional centers like Chicago pick up the slack and build to compensate. Places like Dallas start to flourish.

[Psychomeltdown]

So, is that what we're looking at?

man, if it is, the US is in it deep.

[Othniel]

So, is that what we're looking at?

man, if it is, the US is in it deep.
You are forgetting to put in the district of Columbia. ;) But yes, we did just loose our ALanatic navy. That will have to be compensated with a gulf and Pacific coast navies being repostioned. We still got nukes.

[Psychomeltdown]

Still the West Coast still has all it needs, most resouces on the East Coast are redendant to the USA and We still have West Viriginia. Besides according to Imajin the District of Columbia doesn't count. It isn't a state, and is in fact apart from the states. Everything in the district would remain. We can still compensate with gulf and great lake ports for a time, and if they don't fit send them to California and Oregon. We also probablely have a millitary infilsturture in place in case of occupation of the East Coast that would come into exsistance. Regional centers like Chicago pick up the slack and build to compensate. Places like Dallas start to flourish.
I'm guessing your not grasping the realities here.

Let see, we've just lost about half the population, a HUGE chunk of our wealth, Most of our Leaders (business and political), and military and economic assets that we cannot replace.

I give the US a week before all hell breaks loose. Break downs everywhere. mass panic. Basically our economy is gone. Much of our military power is gone. The most we'll be getting from other nations is food and medicine. Trade is shot to hell since we've got little to trade and what we do have we'll be needing to help out own with. huge loss of money too.

We're not the only one's who'll be effected. The rest of the world will be hurtin' pretty soon too.

Everything will basically collapse to a local and state level for a long while. then after that we'll see who's still willing to return to the fold of the US.

[Darkest]

The ancient evil beneath Lake Erie finally escapes into the ocean, where in the black abyss of the Pacific it will draw upon dark powers and regain its lost strength. Then it will rise again, only to consume humanity with a furious, age-old vengeance upon its most hated enemy. Millenia it has waited, only now to earn its retribution...

*slow, dark laugh, rising in volume over a long period of time, and then fading into nothingness*

[Douglas]

No Hillary in '08? I think the Republicans are gonna be in power for a LONG time with all those blue states missing...

Imagine if the Blue States decide to join Canada...that would actually make an interesting TL.

[Ward]

Well, Vermont suddenly has a coastline and is somewhat detached from the rest of the US. The coastline is now roughly in the Appalachians, though Detroit, Cleveland, Toledo, etc., are now ocean ports, and likely will be the only ones along the entire east coast for a while since developing new ports in eastern Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama... that's one sharp-edged looking coastline...

The above formerly Great Lake ports, as well as those on the Gulf of Mexico, will suddenly have to take the brunt of the Atlantic shipping and likely won't be able to handle it for quite a while until they're expanded. All this is without mentioning the loss of industry, cultural landmarks, history, Washington, D.C., and population which is one of the US's biggest domestic markets. Catastrophe for a while, I'd say. Everything east of the Mississippi might wither for lack of all that infrastructure and the reverbarations will be felt all the way to the Pacific coast.



Mosty of the Great Lake Ports today are running at about 50% of what they could run at . Also Alot of old Bases might just be reopen as would a lot of Federal Buildings that are in the Midwest .

[GBW]

First off, the Panama Canal isn't big enough anymore for a lot of freight nowadays. They can't just send many of them to the Pacific coast; they'd have to go through the Strait of Magellan. Second, there is no way the Great Lake and Gulf ports will be able to make up for all the port facilities of the eastern seaboard. New York alone is equal to much of the Great Lakes trade.

Second, here's a list of Major Military Commands situated in the lost states:

Intelligence & Security Command - Fort Belvoir, Virginia

Criminal Investigation Command - Fort Belvoir, Virginia

Army Material Command - Fort Belvoir, Virginia

Training & Doctrine Command - Fort Monroe, Virginia

Forces Command - Fort McPherson, Georgia

Special Operations Command - Fort Bragg, North Carolina

Military Surface Deployment and Distribution Command - Fort Eustis, Newport News, Virginia

Space & Missile Defense Command - Arlington, Virginia

Army Central Command - Fort McPherson, Georgia

Army Reserve Command - Fort McPherson, Georgia

The Pentagon is across the Potomac in Arlington, Virginia, btw. The US will also have lost their only space launch facility in Florida. The NSA is based outside of Washington in Maryland; most of the military bases that ring Washington are in Maryland and Virginia. The American military and intelligence assets will be crippled. With all the global commerce that goes through New York City alone... and air traffic will be crippled too. Airlines throughout North America and Europe depend on hubs like New York, Boston, Atlanta, etc. You expect Chicago, which already barely meets its own air traffic needs, to take up that much demand?

I don't know why you think the eastern seaboard is "holding the West back". Without it, the US would face a disaster of tremendous proportions, even with Washington staying behind.

[Zor]

Imajin, by destroying those Provinces (yes, i'm calling them Provinces as that's what they are, not independant Nations the US Parades them around as) you just destroyed most of America's Industry, cut off Maine from the Mainland (Pun not intended) and removed a sugnifigenet Precentage of it's population.

You just Handed the World to the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China. I hope your happy.

Zor

[Imajin]

Imajin, by destroying those Provinces (yes, i'm calling them Provinces as that's what they are, not independant Nations the US Parades them around as) you just destroyed most of America's Industry, cut off Maine from the Mainland (Pun not intended) and removed a sugnifigenet Precentage of it's population.

You just Handed the World to the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China. I hope your happy.

Zor
I destroyed myself as well...

[Codeman]

im gone too... :(