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tom
January 11th, 2004, 04:48 PM
If the Taliban had a Navy, would that have helped in 2002? Or would they have to be even crazier than OTL?

Xen
January 11th, 2004, 04:58 PM
For the Taliban to have a Navy they would need a coast of some sort, since the Taliban was Afghanistans government and Afghanistan is landlocked they wont have a navy.

Maybe since this ASB, did they merge with Pakistan? Or did Pakistan fall into the ocean? More detail.

David Howery
January 11th, 2004, 05:39 PM
a Taliban navy?! what could that possibly be... a guy with a rifle on a rowboat floating out on a pond?

Xen
January 11th, 2004, 06:23 PM
Nah they dont have rowboats, its a guy with one of those blow up live preservers that looks like a grinning horse floating in a large mud puddle holding an AK-47

David Howery
January 12th, 2004, 12:25 AM
are there any big rivers or lakes in Afghanistan? anything at all that would require the Taliban to have any kind of military boats?

ConfederateFly
January 12th, 2004, 01:55 AM
If the Taliban had any navy they would need to recieve Pakistan somehow maybe both countries join together with each other w/ the Taliban the goverment leaders. The Taliban navy would just be between 10-50 small Soviet patrol boats and maybe have 2 or 3 Cutters(like the United States Coast Guard uses) be built in France as the main gun ships of the Taliban Navy.

Xen
January 12th, 2004, 02:45 AM
are there any big rivers or lakes in Afghanistan? anything at all that would require the Taliban to have any kind of military boats?


There arent any real major rivers in Afghanistan, I dont think they even have a river that runs from one side of the country to the other. The rivers they have are more like the New River or Colorado River just not as long I believe they are just as rough as those two. Maybe if the Taliban had a special forces unit of White River rafters floating down the rapids with AK-47s that can be considered a navy.

Linkwerk
January 28th, 2004, 12:09 AM
Well, if the taliban took control of pakistan at some point in the later 90's (say an islamist counter-coup against musharraf?) then they could take control of the pakistani navy....

That would actually be a very interesting ATL. An india-aligned US going to war with Taliban-controlled Afghanistan/Pakistan after sept.11th?

David Howery
January 28th, 2004, 12:26 AM
except that India wouldn't really need our help... they massively outnumber both nations combined....

Xen
January 31st, 2004, 01:34 AM
We could give them some air support and make it that much easier. Plus send the US 7th Fleet to take care of the Taliban Navy. The Taliban Navy might last a week before being annihlated

Kuralyov
January 31st, 2004, 10:25 PM
except that India wouldn't really need our help... they massively outnumber both nations combined....

And yet still couldn't drive Pakistan out of Kashmir over the course of three wars...and besides, it's quality, not quantity that matters.

Brilliantlight
February 3rd, 2004, 10:14 AM
We could give them some air support and make it that much easier. Plus send the US 7th Fleet to take care of the Taliban Navy. The Taliban Navy might last a week before being annihlated

The Taliban Navy would something akin to divine intervention to last an entire week against the US 7th fleet.

David Howery
February 3rd, 2004, 06:13 PM
has India ever made a serious attempt to destroy Pakistan? IIRC, the wars they fought were all pretty limited, and had goals other than keeping Kashmir safe from them. Does anyone doubt that (in a conventional war, at least), India couldn't smash Pakistan rather thoroughly?

Anthony Appleyard
February 4th, 2004, 08:09 AM
... Does anyone doubt that (in a conventional war, at least), India couldn't smash Pakistan rather thoroughly?
India would likely reach the Indus river easily along its length, apart from holdout gangs in cities and towns, but the western mountains would be a different matter. It was so from the beginning. The Rigveda says that their god Indra needed 40 years searching in those mountains to find and kill Vrtra the huge serpent-demon who had caused a long drought in the area.

bard32
April 24th, 2008, 11:33 PM
If the Taliban had a Navy, would that have helped in 2002? Or would they have to be even crazier than OTL?

Where would the Taliban get a navy? Look on a map, and you'd see that Afghanistan's a landlocked country.

Atreus
April 25th, 2008, 12:53 AM
If the Taliban had a Navy, would that have helped in 2002? Or would they have to be even crazier than OTL?

Basic Geography 101 aside; the USN gets a bit of target practice.

Sargon
April 25th, 2008, 01:56 AM
A woodworm infested plank, and a scruffy looking guy sitting on it armed with a toothpick sums up a likely Taliban Navy.


Sargon

DMA
April 25th, 2008, 03:50 AM
Maybe there's a huge underground sea, in Afghanistan, where the Taliban can paddle around. So they can have their dingies, armed with AK-47s, patrolling there

kojak
April 25th, 2008, 04:00 AM
If the Taliban had a Navy, would that have helped in 2002? Or would they have to be even crazier than OTL?There's literally more chance of a snowstorm in Death Valley than there is of any Taliban pond navy lasting longer than an hour against the US military.

Elidor
April 25th, 2008, 04:50 AM
The Royal Nepalese Submarine Fleet will Pwn their asses. :D :D :D

Elidor
April 25th, 2008, 05:04 AM
And yet still couldn't drive Pakistan out of Kashmir over the course of three wars...and besides, it's quality, not quantity that matters.

Seriously, India allows Pakistan to have that Desert Land. After all it seems logical, why would any nation want to control rugged desert terrain populated by illiterate rustics that is a hotbed for extremism and tribal separatism?

You should look at the depth of Indian penetration into Pakistan the 1971 war. Pakistan was fucked. India didn't want to become another Israel, so it allowed Pakistan to hold on to Pakistani Kashmir.

whaleofashrimp
April 26th, 2008, 10:41 PM
of course they have a navy! otherwise what justification would we have? the justification for fucking with these fuzzy-wuzzies is that if we dont bomb them over there all the korean'vietmanese,yemanise,arabs and moro's will hope in there war caino's ...paddle over to our coast and rap our women

kojak
April 26th, 2008, 10:43 PM
of course they have a navy! otherwise what justification would we have? the justification for fucking with these fuzzy-wuzzies is that if we dont bomb them over there all the korean'vietmanese,yemanise,arabs and moro's will hope in there war caino's ...paddle over to our coast and rap our womenWould you please stop with your political trolling in every thread? If you want to discuss politics, we have a forum especially for that.

bard32
April 26th, 2008, 11:49 PM
The Royal Nepalese Submarine Fleet will Pwn their asses. :D :D :D

How right you are, Elidor, and the Royal Bhutanese Navy will sink their destroyers. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Ian the Admin
April 28th, 2008, 12:03 AM
of course they have a navy! otherwise what justification would we have? the justification for fucking with these fuzzy-wuzzies is that if we dont bomb them over there all the korean'vietmanese,yemanise,arabs and moro's will hope in there war caino's ...paddle over to our coast and rap our women

You are being a massive troll in a whole bunch of threads. You're entitled to your opinions but not to making them into insulting flamebait which you insert left and right and don't bother to support.

I'm kicking you for a week, during which you'll be unable to post. In the future, please try to contribute to a thread instead of ranting.