LiME Suggestions

[Lauranthalas]

Hey, I need someone to write aussey's stuff while he's gone in LiME, who would you guys suggest? I certainly would love to kickstart activity in the LiME threads. It falls into typical Othniel Lag time and although I love that pace it does make things a bit boring. Suggestions?

cause I think it aint be too good to talk about it in the excused absences.

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dunno. I was trying something but all world would be against me

[reformer]

The problem is that Europe has become too friendly. And the other major powers, with the possible exceptions of mine, have been just a little bit innactive.

[Othniel]

The problem is that Europe has become too friendly. And the other major powers, with the possible exceptions of mine, have been just a little bit innactive.
Post-war trama, while France is trying to be underhanded... Portugal is more active in the overseas department as illistrated by the Brazillian Plan of Intagration and them trying to get back colonies they haven't held sense 1637.

China is afraid of Japan smearing them. ;)

I'd say Genoa needs some form of Colony.

[DuQuense]

Lets make Limeaid, Whe could move MECW up a couple of Weeks.

[Othniel]

The problem is most likely the year I choose, note that it is the start of the build up period. Meaning you have a lot of revamping, and a different mindset, maybe if I fastforwarded it to a depression of sorts that would cause this world to spin into the confusion and mindset that caused world war two. Two weeks and we could have a slight fastforward as to have a start of a depression. Many of the economies crash with the realisasition of loss of certain oil and other types of companies aboard. BEIC is the biggest problem with this, what happens if their overseas economy crashes?

[Glen]

The problem is most likely the year I choose, note that it is the start of the build up period. Meaning you have a lot of revamping, and a different mindset, maybe if I fastforwarded it to a depression of sorts that would cause this world to spin into the confusion and mindset that caused world war two. Two weeks and we could have a slight fastforward as to have a start of a depression. Many of the economies crash with the realisasition of loss of certain oil and other types of companies aboard. BEIC is the biggest problem with this, what happens if their overseas economy crashes?

That's a good idea.

Bring on the Great Depression...heck, given all the mishmash the ISOT did, it is reasonable to see one in any event.

[luakel]

Post-war trama, while France is trying to be underhanded... Portugal is more active in the overseas department as illistrated by the Brazillian Plan of Intagration and them trying to get back colonies they haven't held sense 1637.

China is afraid of Japan smearing them. ;)

I'd say Genoa needs some form of Colony.
Well, Genoa might merge with Italy at some point soon... but I agree, it's too quiet. Is the Mexico-Texas situation in America going to boil over?

[luakel]

The problem is most likely the year I choose, note that it is the start of the build up period. Meaning you have a lot of revamping, and a different mindset, maybe if I fastforwarded it to a depression of sorts that would cause this world to spin into the confusion and mindset that caused world war two. Two weeks and we could have a slight fastforward as to have a start of a depression. Many of the economies crash with the realisasition of loss of certain oil and other types of companies aboard. BEIC is the biggest problem with this, what happens if their overseas economy crashes?
What's a fastfoward? :confused:

[reformer]

grrr. . . please don't do this immediately. Ya see, I'm actually in the middle with important diplomatic talks with the Ottomans and Italy wich will change the shape of the game. Especially in fighting colonization and exspansion.

Also, as you may have noticed, the BEIC has been trying to stay localised, putting most of its money into modernising Arabia, Indonesia, and Indo-China. These are areas that are less reliant on the stock market, which doesn't exsist to the same exstent as it does in OTL. Of course the fall of western markets would be a pain, but hopefully the company will be able to hold up its local neighbors after the colapse, making it more economically and politicaly important. China though may colapse, possibly eventually leading to war with the Japanese and the Comapny, who are unofficial allies.

It would be fun to get a serious facist or communist somewhere though. Maybe Mexico? Or Brazil? China?

[Smuz]

Personally, I think its the way the great powers have assumed they can survive the sudden changes unaltered... surely the Great Depression would have been triggered by now. Me, I've figured the canals and oil sales will have kept the Ottomans from collapse, but I've had internal problems. Other nations, however, have apparently had no sudden stock market crashes or similar... which may be better for them, but unrealistic (as if ISOT is related to realism!). We should be having a global rush to scure trade routes and food supplies before the industrial nations starve and the agricultural sectors collapse form no buyers...

[luakel]

Personally, I think its the way the great powers have assumed they can survive the sudden changes unaltered... surely the Great Depression would have been triggered by now. Me, I've figured the canals and oil sales will have kept the Ottomans from collapse, but I've had internal problems. Other nations, however, have apparently had no sudden stock market crashes or similar... which may be better for them, but unrealistic (as if ISOT is related to realism!). We should be having a global rush to scure trade routes and food supplies before the industrial nations starve and the agricultural sectors collapse form no buyers...
Well, Italy is mostly self-sufficent, dealing with countries only in Europe. But I suppose you're right. Most of our countries should be heading for depression.

[Othniel]

Personally, I think its the way the great powers have assumed they can survive the sudden changes unaltered... surely the Great Depression would have been triggered by now. Me, I've figured the canals and oil sales will have kept the Ottomans from collapse, but I've had internal problems. Other nations, however, have apparently had no sudden stock market crashes or similar... which may be better for them, but unrealistic (as if ISOT is related to realism!). We should be having a global rush to scure trade routes and food supplies before the industrial nations starve and the agricultural sectors collapse form no buyers...
The Great Depression is still two years off OTL, I figure that there has been a delay in this great depression because the effects of the prosperity economy are still in effect from before the ISOT. The United States is still recieving goods from a few months before and its going to be a few months until that stops and the stock market catches on, I figure some of them are exploiting the new situations getting a rush from certain new incomes, as for the Portuguese Commonwealth they have a self trade system in place and it will most likely continue to grow. We should start feeling the effects of the fall in a few months as the intial boom wears off..

[Othniel]

That's a good idea.

Bring on the Great Depression...heck, given all the mishmash the ISOT did, it is reasonable to see one in any event.
I'm hoping someone makes a bad economic move, which the already unstable economy starts to sway then break, this leading to world war two at least a year earler than OTL.

[Othniel]

facist Brazil?
Acualty you just gave me an idea for a Character that would forcibly unite Latin America into a Giant political enity...

Latin Nationalism and see Latins as a Supreme race in a fashion of Rome mixed with the Inca. Yes yes, it could all come together nicely.... :p

[Forum Lurker]

Well, the Russian economy is largely immune to global fluctuations, but that's mostly because it's heavily internalized. I've got famines and my own crash industrialization programs to worry about, so the price of silk in Paris isn't a factor until it starts impacting tarrifs from the railroads.

[Othniel]

Well, the Russian economy is largely immune to global fluctuations, but that's mostly because it's heavily internalized. I've got famines and my own crash industrialization programs to worry about, so the price of silk in Paris isn't a factor until it starts impacting tarrifs from the railroads.
Paris no longer sells your capitalist silk...kidding kidding. However the Proleriant are looking for resources. A crash would force them into colonization as to support something like a market. Selfsuffiency would be a distaster..much better to expand. Likewise a scramble for colonies will most likely happen in the small European Countries.

[Imajin]

Well, Genoa might merge with Italy at some point soon...
The Doge and the Aristocrats are doing all they can to look as if they're supporting unification, while stalling it, because they don't want to give up their ancient rights- Genoa is an aristocrat-dominated Republic, while Italy is more democratic, though. (of course, they want a better military, so that one they all fully support)

As for a colony, what do you think Corsica is?

[reformer]

OK, here's a general sugestion.

Considering the more internalized nature of many of the countries, the stock crash will have less of an effect.

Italy, though hurt, will not be seriously damaged. The Ottoman Empire, going through industrial improvement, will still be better of than it was a few years ago. The US, Britain, Germany, and France will be hit hard.

The South Americans will see the economic disaster as a sign of European tyranny, and a pan-Latin movement will be developed, with Mexico and Brazil fighting for leadership. Chances are this would lead to a big war with the US and its allies.

Italy, the Ottoman Empire, and the US are already in discussions regarding a type of international treaty wich would enforce a world wide Monroe Doctrine against new imperialism, leading to conflict with Western Europe, Germany, and Flanders, possibly the UK.

The BEIC has been focusing of south and east asia so far rather than in improving trade with Europe. Therefore the countreis in the area are going to relly more and more on the company to keep them going, and the company would require economic security to prevent it from crashing. Chances are this would lead to a war with everyone in Asia, except maybe Russia, against the more independant China.

This is assuming that the companies attempts at industrialization in the area are to the most part sucessful.

Perhaps a Communist revolution somewhere?

Lets not do this immediately though. . . I still have some unfinished bussiness.

[Othniel]

Russia and Western Europe are both Communist. Germany is imperialistic, Italy is trying to renew the Roman Empire. The UK still has its Colonies. Japan might take a hungry look towards China if a depression does happen...

[Mayhem]

Yeah, I may have some problems really soon, what with imports having stopped flowing and a couple of fleets out and about...
I'll be sticking that into a post sometime soon, sorry I've been inactive :(

[Lauranthalas]

Well, Italy is mostly self-sufficent, dealing with countries only in Europe. But I suppose you're right. Most of our countries should be heading for depression.
italy cant be selfsufficient. they dont have ressources for heavy industry

[Lauranthalas]

OK, here's a general sugestion.
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cool. so no effects on me :D

no I guess it would have most affects on my heavy industry since I dont have very many ressources. the rest should be fine

[reformer]

cool. so no effects on me :D

Ack. . . .only had limited sorry. . . didn't mean to offend.

From what I'm reading here, the great deppression would have a much smaller effect than OTL.

[luakel]

italy cant be selfsufficient. they dont have ressources for heavy industry
I do due to the colonies. though I probably need to get in touch with my allies and set up some trades.

[reformer]

What is the time per day now?

[Glen]

What is the time per day now?

Well, that's the problem...y'all slowed down but didn't specify how, and people haven't been putting dates on their posts...

It appears to have last been sometime in September 1927.

[Lauranthalas]

Well, that's the problem...y'all slowed down but didn't specify how, and people haven't been putting dates on their posts...

It appears to have last been sometime in September 1927.
I was puzzled from the beginning and no one put dates on it. so Lets get some day and make a speed so that everyone knows

[Othniel]

3 days per 24 hour period until next week. AND DATE YOUR POSTS!!! Today is September 4-7.

[luakel]

Guys, would anyone be interested in taking Italy? I've been pretty lazy with posting stuff, and with school starting up I won't have much time. So does anyone else want it?

[Lauranthalas]

Guys, would anyone be interested in taking Italy? I've been pretty lazy with posting stuff, and with school starting up I won't have much time. So does anyone else want it?
I'm sorry I wont have time

[Othniel]

I've failed.

[luakel]

Would any of my allies like to take over? (reformer, pa dutch, Smuz)

[reformer]

Grrr. . . are you sure you wont be able to keep up a little bit? I already have three nations, so how about Smuz or pa dutch.

[luakel]

Grrr. . . are you sure you wont be able to keep up a little bit? I already have three nations, so how about Smuz or pa dutch.
Yes, I'm probably going to continue, at least for a while, so don't worry in the meantime.