Was Medieval Poland A Democracy

[Norbert Newman]

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.

[Mongo]

What an effing joke. NO it was not a modern democracy -- how many voting rights did the average peasant have? -- and NO I am not a revisionist.

Too bad the correct answer is not listed on this so-called "poll".

[I Blame Communism]

Crossing the bridge, the young goat became aware of an ominous wet snuffling noise that put a chill in his very bones...

Democracy for nobles is as democratic as South Africa's democracy for white people and pointing this out has nothing to do with being an evil Germano-Russian conspirator: I say the same thing to whiggish claims about my own country's supposed "heritage of constitutional liberty".

[Torn but Flying]

This guy's a troll judging by this and his other posts.

[Gosing]

Crossing the bridge, the young goat became aware of an ominous wet snuffling noise that put a chill in his very bones...

Democracy for nobles is as democratic as South Africa's democracy for white people and pointing this out has nothing to do with being an evil Germano-Russian conspirator: I say the same thing to whiggish claims about my own country's supposed "heritage of constitutional liberty".

Well...America had democracy...for males...white males...sixty years before the British...and yet still has under 50% turnouts in someplaces...

Damn you, IBC.

[Prem_Rack]

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
FFS, it wasn't even Medieval Poland that was Noble's Democracy. Medieval Poland was pretty much run-of-the-mill feudal fringe country.

[Gosing]

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
FFS, it wasn't even Medieval Poland that was Noble's Democracy. Medieval Poland was pretty much run-of-the-mill feudal fringe country.

Yeah. Wasn't the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth created in the 1500s?

[Orko]

AH.com is not a place for jokes of this kind. It is a dark, cold and cruel place of misery and actual discussions. Mods, if you see this, please close this thread.

[I Blame Communism]

Well...America had democracy...for males...white males...sixty years before the British...and yet still has under 50% turnouts in someplaces...

I regard Britain as having become the imperfect-but-what-were-you-expecting democracy we are today in 1928, and having been close for a while before. To be honest I have an embarrassing ignorance of American history and couldn't tell you when women got the vote in different states, but I wouldn't call America a democracy before civil rights.

The whole willy-waving contest about who had democracy first annoys me anyway.

Damn you, IBC.

Phwahahahahaha!

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
FFS, it wasn't even Medieval Poland that was Noble's Democracy. Medieval Poland was pretty much run-of-the-mill feudal fringe country.

He makes a good point does that man.

[Sicarius]

How could medieval Poland be a modern anything?

[I Blame Communism]

How could medieval Poland be a modern anything?

I think we're going to get along. ;)

[Bee]

The elective monarchy came after the middle ages.

[dreadnought jenkins]

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.

Fail.

And what the hell is a German revionisist anyway? A German Snidely Whiplash?

[Beedok]

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.
Why did he say Russian and German but only give the option for German? How is a Russian revisionist supposed to vote?!?:mad:

[SavoyTruffle]

But what about the Austrian revisionists? They were one of the black eagles that feasted on the white eagle too, right? :confused:

[imperialaquila]

How could medieval Poland be a modern anything?

Starvation and famine are modern enough. See most of sub-Saharan Africa.

[Polish Eagle]

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.

No, and I'm not a German. Obviously.

Medieval Poland was not a democracy of any sort. It was a fragmented, entirely feudal entity dealing with Mongol invasions and internal fighting after the Piast rule of all Poland fell apart into warring factions. After that...it was a united entirely feudal nation. And it would be that way until the late 16th century when it became an elective-monarchy-ruling-a-herd-of-cats-called-szlachta-who-served-as-a-plutocracy. It would remain this way until May 3, 1791, when it became a very limited democracy modeled after post-revolutionary America. But 1791 is hardly "medieval."

Reported, for trolling.

[Beedok]

Reported, for trolling.

The guy's been banned for a while.;)

[Polish Eagle]

The guy's been banned for a while.;)

...Bloody hell. I read this thread a few hours ago, at a computer where I couldn't log in. Then I dove right into this without reading that he got banned. :o

[Constantinos]

Of course it is a democracy. Really a country where king had absoulute power. Jeez not until the PLC was Poland a democracy. However I agree with Newman let's throw away facts, so I say Poland is always a democracy so I vote yes:rolleyes: Really I feel srry for the huge gap beetween the no and es polls.;)

[Beedok]

I just realised he typo-ed on "ANd":rolleyes:

[yourworstnightmare]

Nope, and I'm neither German no Russian. The Piast monarch(ies)y was not a democracy, neither was Poland under the Anjous nor the early Jagellons.

[abc123]

What an effing joke. NO it was not a modern democracy -- how many voting rights did the average peasant have? -- and NO I am not a revisionist.

Too bad the correct answer is not listed on this so-called "poll".

I agree.
Dumb question.;)

[Kelenas]

Medieval Poland was as much a modern democracy as modern Britain is a medieval monarchy... :rolleyes:

- Kelenas

[Joseph Solis in Australia]

It's not a democracy. I'm not a German. This thread is a troll and wants to annoy any Germans here in AH.com.

[Aranfan]

I regard Britain as having become the imperfect-but-what-were-you-expecting democracy we are today in 1928, and having been close for a while before. To be honest I have an embarrassing ignorance of American history and couldn't tell you when women got the vote in different states, but I wouldn't call America a democracy before civil rights.

New Jersey in 1776 only had property qualifications and the state constitution explicitly referred to voters as "he or she". In 1807 women were stripped of voting rights in NJ via unconstitutional (NJ Constitution, not federal) means.