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Othniel
July 18th, 2005, 01:38 AM
For all situations that take place in the Western Hemisphere. Not open till Wednesday, July 20th.
pa_dutch
July 20th, 2005, 09:40 PM
“Please deliver this message to the government in France:
We are aware of the rising tensions across the Atlantic and wish to form an alliance. Our ideas of government may contrast, but our history is very much intertwined with yours. In the case that the inevitable happens and war breaks out, we will lease to you a military base on our territory and access to the Straight of Magellan, in return for your assistance in helping us champion our claim to the Îles Malouines, better known as the Falkland Islands, over the Argentines and the British. We strongly believe that, although uninhabited when first discovered by Europeans, the islands were originally discovered by natives from our territory long before we united as a nation. Should you agree to help us, we will also allow you permanent military establishment on the former French territory of Port Louis, the first European settlement to be founded in the islands.
Montril, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia”
Aussey
July 20th, 2005, 09:43 PM
Broadcast to the Nations of the World:
From: Federated Mexican Empire
The Federated Mexican Empire wishes to make it's sovereignty known, and extend formal diplomatic ties to any nation willing.
His Imperial Majesty Carlos the First, By Divine Providence and the National Congress, Fifth Constitutional Emperor of Mexic
Imajin
July 20th, 2005, 09:44 PM
To: The Empire of Mexico
From: The West Indies Federation
The Federation of the West Indies recognizes your nation. It is good to see that the Empire still exists when so many nations seem to be gone or different.
His Majesty, Jeremy III, King of the West Indies and the Miskitos
Aussey
July 20th, 2005, 09:48 PM
((OOC: Why is your king styled His Royal Highness???
Imajin
July 20th, 2005, 09:49 PM
((OOC: Why is your king styled His Royal Highness???
((OOC: Oops..))
pa_dutch
July 20th, 2005, 09:50 PM
"To the Mexican Empire:
His Majesty Orelie-Antione II of the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia wishes an alliance. We are not sure what has become of the world, but it is reassuring to know that we are no longer the lone monarchy in the Western Hemisphere.
Montril, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia"
Aussey
July 20th, 2005, 09:51 PM
((OOC: Oops..))
((OOC: What is Royal Majesty? I cant remember that being used???))
Aussey
July 20th, 2005, 09:52 PM
"To the Mexican Empire:
His Majesty Orelie-Antione II of the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia wishes an alliance. We are not sure what has become of the world, but it is reassuring to know that we are no longer the lone monarchy in the Western Hemisphere.
Montril, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia"
To: The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
Please send a delegation the Her Imperial Majesty the Empress-Consort's Court in Veracruz where the entire Court is currently stationed.
His Imperial Majesty Carlos the First, By Divine Providence and the National Congress, Fifth Constitutional Emperor of Mexico
Imajin
July 20th, 2005, 09:54 PM
((OOC: What is Royal Majesty? I cant remember that being used???))
((OOC: Fine, insult my limited knowledge of royal styles :p ))
Aussey
July 20th, 2005, 09:56 PM
((OOC: Fine, insult my limited knowledge of royal styles :p ))
((OOC: ok....Jeremy? Not a very regal name. Try Joseph or Jerome :) ))
Imajin
July 20th, 2005, 09:59 PM
((OOC: ok....Jeremy? Not a very regal name. Try Joseph or Jerome :) ))
((OOC: The Miskitos had two Jeremies OTL... Anyway, he was unlikely to get the throne anyway, being the fifth son, so his parents didn't think to give him a "Regal" name... Be glad it isn't Oldman III))
luakel
July 20th, 2005, 10:05 PM
With Tensions rising in Europe, we would like to ask the Kingdom for a defensive alliance.
pa_dutch
July 20th, 2005, 10:12 PM
"To the Mexican Empire:
A delegation from our court will be dispatched shortly. Likewise, we encourage you to establish an embassy in our capital of Perquenco. Our nation exists at the southernmost region of South America.
Montril, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia"
pa_dutch
July 20th, 2005, 10:19 PM
"To Italy:
We accept your wishes of a defensive alliance. With your permission, we will send a delegation to your capital as well.
Montril, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia"
luakel
July 20th, 2005, 10:34 PM
"To Italy:
We accept your wishes of a defensive alliance. With your permission, we will send a delegation to your capital as well.
Montril, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia"
Thank you for replying to our message. Your delegation will be warmly welcomed in Milan.
reformer
July 20th, 2005, 10:36 PM
US Defense Departement to the American southwest
We've recived amazingly strange reports. . .. what the hell is going on. we are warning you disidents, we are mobablizing troops in your area.
Imajin
July 20th, 2005, 10:38 PM
To: Washington, DC
From: New Boston, Territory of Pacifica
We have lost contact with San Francisco. Is everything all right on your end?
William J. Johnson, Acting-Governor of Pacifica
reformer
July 21st, 2005, 12:01 AM
Defense Departement to whoever's in the hell is in the Pacific
No, everything is not all right, what is happening to this damn country, some commie plot or something (this guys a Progressive by the way)? We can't contact the stupid city either. If you recieve any information, please inform us. Who the hell are you anyway?
Mayhem
July 21st, 2005, 02:52 AM
Broadcast to the Nations of the World:
From: Federated Mexican Empire
The Federated Mexican Empire wishes to make it's sovereignty known, and extend formal diplomatic ties to any nation willing.
His Imperial Majesty Carlos the First, By Divine Providence and the National Congress, Fifth Constitutional Emperor of Mexic
Tokyo, The Empire of Great Japan
To: the Federated Mexican Empire
Your Imperial Majesty,
As one Empire to another, we extend our hand in the ages-old offer of friendship. We have seen that a new order has swept the world, changing its face irrevocably. We recognise your power and influence, and we beg you do the same. In particular, we must request that an investigation be made into the Western Coast of the Southern American continent, and into East India. We have some interests there which have failed to respond to all attempts to contact them. If you could do us this honour, we would be much obliged; our resources are thinly stretched as is.
In honour and steadfastness, His Imperial Majesty "Honourable Triumph", Kirihito, Emperor of Great Japan, Defender of Manchuria and Korea.
Imajin
July 21st, 2005, 02:58 AM
Pacifica to the Defense Department
No evidence of a Communist plot here.
As for who we are, how do you get anywhere in the government without knowing your own country? The Territory of Pacifica, stretching from Guam across the Pacific...
Acting-Governor William J. Johnson
Othniel
July 21st, 2005, 04:53 AM
PRWE to the US:
The World has changed our dear friends. We hope to reestabliese full diplomatic contact.
DuQuense
July 21st, 2005, 05:48 AM
ooc; just read Refomer's TL no US in Cuba, and ?Would there even be a Panama Canal?
Shortwave Messages
From
Admiral King, Guantanamo, Naval Base, Cuba,
To
Secretary of the Navy Curtis Wilbur
From
General William Micheal, Army Aircorp Base, Havana, Cuba
To
Secretary of the Army Dwight Filley Davis
from
General Chesty Puller, US Marine Base Porto Rico
to
Secretary of the Navy Curtis Wilbur
From
General Martin ,Governor, Canal Zone, Panama.
To
Secretary of the Army Dwight Filley Davis
What the H*** is going on ?. ?Why the sudden change in Codes? ?Why no Replies to Messages?
From
Captain Chester W. Nimitz, USS Arizona
Capitan William F. Halsey, USS Texas
to
Norfolk Virgina
Slight Snafu here, may be delayed arriving home by several days, love XXX.
reformer
July 21st, 2005, 12:50 PM
Oh yah. .. . forgot that detail. . . ups. . .
luakel
July 21st, 2005, 06:22 PM
In our world, our two countries were very good allies and helped negotiate an end to the Great War together. We would like to keep that alliance going.
reformer
July 21st, 2005, 06:40 PM
Ok. . .. gotten two diplomatic contacts. . . could you please give your nations name? Not just abreviations? Don't need full name of course, but something to make it clear. . .
Othniel
July 21st, 2005, 06:48 PM
Ok. . .. gotten two diplomatic contacts. . . could you please give your nations name? Not just abreviations? Don't need full name of course, but something to make it clear. . .
Proleriant Republic of Western Europe:Basically France.
reformer
July 21st, 2005, 06:53 PM
gotcha. . . . well, you've been contacted by the socialists. The Populists and the Republicans hate the very idea of you. Progressives are so so, and are afraid of German power. Socialists are celibrating in the streets. Democrats are a swing vote. To get stuff done in the US, work with the parties. They have strong individual powes, as do the states they controll.
DuQuense
July 21st, 2005, 08:16 PM
Port a Prince, Haiti
Toussaint L'OUVERTURE Didn't know what to do after years of Struggle his Army appeared near victory when this fleet of Strange ships, had appeared in Port a Prince. He was here under these Cubans flag of truce,
According the them it was the year 1927, and history told them He had Won, only to be betrayed by the French when he journeyed to Paris to discuss the peace. He was temped, by their offer of a Protectorate, They would handle the Foreign and Defense matters, while He would run the Country.
The French Governor hadn't wanted to Agree to the Truce, But a pass by these Cubans Flying machine [They called it a Corsair] while firing had change the Governors mind.
Toussaint L'OUVERTURE, Realized these Cubans next door, would be lots harder to Defeat, than the French 3.000 miles away. Telling the Cubans He had to consult with his Officers, he departed back to the hills.
Santa Dominga, Santa Dominga
Governor Ortagia looked out the window at the ships, there were only three of them, but all the fire from his forts this morning hadn't even dented there metal hulls, and the Return fire [Star shells, they called them] had shown the Futility of continuing. They claimed to be from a Independent Cuba, with records showing his Friend Governor Antigua, resigning in disgrace, in 1809. They also claimed it to be 1927. Deciding to believe them. He turned back to begin Discussions, about this Protectorate. Perhaps they could do something about this Toussaint L'OUVERTURE. madman in Haiti.
Guantanamo, Naval Base.
Admiral King welcomed Generals Mitchel and Puller into his Study, They had to decide what to do about this new world. King had a speaker and Mic set up so General Martin in panama could participate.
King Started " The Cubans have asked us to leave, They claim that the Treaties leasing us the Bases, in fact they Claim the whole "Treaty of Paris" as Void."
Mitchel spoke up, "There Aircorp is good,My boys train against them all the time, they may have a lot of Great War Jenny's and Camels, for training, by they also have a solid core of Corsairs and Huskies. It would be no walkover. anything new from Washington." "No it appears that This US is a mess, and they are more concerned with their southwest, than with us and this US Pacific, they never heard of before."
Puller spoke up, "Porto Rico is full of signs this week -Cuba SI, US NO. If the Treaty of Paris is Void, whe have no legal rites to stay.
General Martin, came in on the Radio "The Cuban President is here now in Panama, meeting with President Alverez. If the Cuban Treaty is Void, the Panama one would be also. That would mean that Panama reverts to Columbia, thru I don't expect Alverez to agree to that ."
King came Back "And this begs the whole Question of the States. Whe all have Men whose enlistment ended Last week. and whe have more every day. Whe are holding them under the Emergency. ?but for how long?. ?And what are Whe to Do?
Mitchel Answered , Whe could accept this offer of the Cubans for Enlistment and Commissions in the Cuban Army."
reformer
July 21st, 2005, 10:25 PM
We have become aware that your province was, in your world, a part of the United States. We are preparing a treaty for reunification if you so desire.
Imajin
July 21st, 2005, 10:27 PM
To: Washington, DC
From: The Territory of Pacifica
Is there a need for a treaty? We still believe ourselves to be part of the United States, we have an American government in place, and if you are willing to accept us in, there may be a simple piece of Congress Legislation recognizing it, but otherwise...
Acting-Governor William J. Johnson
reformer
July 21st, 2005, 10:32 PM
Do to your previous autonomy, we believe that it would be oppressive for our country to simply take over your afairs completely. As a territory, you have little power.
Severall million people have become refugees in our land do the the change of power in the south-west, and we need a place where these men and women can resettle, and we were hoping to use your newfound territory as such a place.
Therefore we would prefer having Pacifica enter the US not as a territory, but as a State.
reformer
July 21st, 2005, 10:45 PM
As a neighbor of our land, may we ask who is in controll, and whether you have had friendly relations with Guiana in the past?
Othniel
July 21st, 2005, 10:47 PM
Brazil:
The Crown of Portugal, John the 'whateverteenth' is the head of our parlimentary Goverment. We belong to the Portuguese Commonwealth.
Aussey
July 22nd, 2005, 10:17 AM
From: The Mexican Empire
To: The Nations of the West
Hello. This is the Mexican Empire. We are sorry it has taken so long to respond to this event. As Archbishop Diego has stated, this should be considered a Mosaic World, and we must not hold ourselves to preious world alliances. The Mexican Empire is willing to ally and/or indulge in political discussions with any nations excluding the Texan Republic, who still claim complete sovereignty over the northern departments of our Empire.
We wish to invite all the heads of the Western nations to attend a Western Conference, to be held at the Court of the Consort in Veracruz, where the Imperial Court is currently staying. Specifically, we feel much attention should be put on the unclaimed, uncivilized lands of eastern South America.
We look foward to all further discussions with your nations.
Signed,
HIM Emperor Carlos I
Consitutional Emperor of Mexico
reformer
July 22nd, 2005, 12:37 PM
This is in clear violation of the Monroe Doctrain. Leave Europe to Europe in these matters. Inviting the European nations only encourages their silly imperialism. Invite only the countries with territories in the hemisphere.
DuQuense
July 24th, 2005, 03:39 AM
The referendum was over and the Votes Counted In Panama due to the US heavy handiness, as shown By the US using Marines with Bayonets to put down a Rent riot in 1925, the Vote was close to 62%, In Porto Rico it was only 55%, But it was enuff. Panama would join the New Caribbean Federation as two States, while PR would join as One, now came the nuts and Bolts of writing a new Constitution.
Meanwhile there were other problems,
From
the National Bank of Cuba
To
Banks and Financial Institutions in Cuba Porto Rico, and Panama,
All Foreign Accounts backed by Letters of Credit, or other such Instruments, are hereby assumed by the Bank of Cuba, soon to be the Bank of the Federation.
pa_dutch
July 24th, 2005, 05:31 AM
To: Milan
From: Perquenco
Our new ally Italy,
Upon inspection it appears that our neighbors to the north still view themselves as subject to the Spanish monarchy. Seeing as Spain apparently falls under your realm, we feel that it may be in your interest to pursue the advantages this brings. We are aware that as a republic, you can not establish any royal authority to them, but perhaps you can appeal to their democratic leanings before they arise and keep them under control. In our world, the republics of Chile and Argentina have always had a history of turbulent relations with our kingdom. It would be nearly impossible for us to maintain a strong rule over them ourselves... They seem to think that our territories, particularly our important city of Valdivia and island of Chiloe, belong to them. We've already detained a party of Spanish colonists who have tried to raid our nation.
Should you take action, we request only one land gain in return for our assistance. We would like sovereignty over land as north of the Rio Maule, in our world part of southern Chile, which was our natural frontier with the ancient empire of Tawatinsuyo, and eastward from there into the Pampas of Argentina south of Buenos Aires. These areas were once part of the Mapuche diaspora, and in this world still seem to have significant ethnic Mapuche populations, which may be under colonial oppression.
Signed, Montril - Foreign Affairs Minister for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
luakel
July 24th, 2005, 10:21 PM
To: Milan
From: Perquenco
Our new ally Italy,
Upon inspection it appears that our neighbors to the north still view themselves as subject to the Spanish monarchy. Seeing as Spain apparently falls under your realm, we feel that it may be in your interest to pursue the advantages this brings. We are aware that as a republic, you can not establish any royal authority to them, but perhaps you can appeal to their democratic leanings before they arise and keep them under control. In our world, the republics of Chile and Argentina have always had a history of turbulent relations with our kingdom. It would be nearly impossible for us to maintain a strong rule over them ourselves... They seem to think that our territories, particularly our important city of Valdivia and island of Chiloe, belong to them. We've already detained a party of Spanish colonists who have tried to raid our nation.
Should you take action, we request only one land gain in return for our assistance. We would like sovereignty over land as north of the Rio Maule, in our world part of southern Chile, which was our natural frontier with the ancient empire of Tawatinsuyo, and eastward from there into the Pampas of Argentina south of Buenos Aires. These areas were once part of the Mapuche diaspora, and in this world still seem to have significant ethnic Mapuche populations, which may be under colonial oppression.
Signed, Montril - Foreign Affairs Minister for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
We would like to thank you for noticing this. We do not have much interest in South American colonies at the time and would happily allow you to assume a protectorate over Argentina and Chile (and you may take full control of the area you requested). We are sending some emissaries from the Spanish colony to your kingdom now to help you with these areas.
pa_dutch
July 25th, 2005, 12:17 AM
To: Milan
From: Perquenco
Your invaluable assistance is very much appreciated. The Spanish diplomats will be of great help in dealing with the situation here in South America. We only wish there was some way that we could return your favor.
To: Veracruz
From: Perquenco
Our ally Mexico,
We are replying to your message concerning the eastern portions of the South American continent. We have done some investigation, to discover that these regions still seem to be organized as they were under Spanish colonial authority, pledging alliegance to the King of Spain. We are unsure how far away they may be from democratic revolution, which is why it is important that we act as soon as possible. We feel that keeping monarchic order in South America would be pivotal for the stability of Latin America, which in post-revolutionary times has been a menace to our kingdom's existance.
The Italian government ruling Spain shows little interest, but is sending our kingdom negotiators to cooperate with us in this situation. The fact that Eastern South America is already organized into viceroyalties, indepedently monarchic in organization, makes things much easier to sort out. The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia does not seek full-fledged sovereignty over any areas save a small area to the immediate north that we see as part of the ancient Mapuche diaspora, but may be interested in persuing economic protectorates at least over what are the Viceroyalty of La Plata and the Captaincy-General of Chile in this world. As for the Viceroyalties of New Granada and Peru in the north, we have little concern, except for the welfare of the unassimilated native populations. We look forward to working with you and any other interested neighboring parties in dealing with all of these matters.
Montril, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
Aussey
July 25th, 2005, 12:38 AM
To: The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
From: The Federal Empire of Mexico
The Federal & Imperial Government of Mexico proposes a jointly-ruled occupation of the Arucano-Mexican Kingdom of South America until further divisions can apply. We do this out of concern for our fellow Hispanic brethren.
HIM Emperor Carlos I
Emperor of Mexico
King of Guatamala
luakel
July 25th, 2005, 01:49 AM
We recognize your control of these areas, and if you would like us to formally cede them to you then we shall send diplomats to your capital.
Aussey
July 25th, 2005, 02:01 AM
We recognize your control of these areas, and if you would like us to formally cede them to you then we shall send diplomats to your capital.
Please send delegates to both Mexico City, and the territoiral capital of the Imperial Territory of Santiago, Santiago.
pa_dutch
July 25th, 2005, 04:36 AM
His Majesty Orelie-Antoine II agrees with the propositions, but first we should probably deal with the colonial governments in Lima, Buenos Aires, and Bogota. This is where the emmisaries from the Italian Republic may come in handy. Also, the Spanish Viceroys may naturally make good puppet kings... It would be wise to keep the current colonial set-up in place under joint occupation. Should we consult the Portuguese, the Flemish, and any other monarchic powers in the area, as well?
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
Othniel
July 25th, 2005, 04:58 AM
Brazil as part of the Portuguese Commonwealth has a certain grudge against Paragauy in which many lives were lost. We wish the blessing of the modern Goverments in annexing Paraguay, and for the advantage of Urugauy of putting both under our wing and making them part of the Commonwealth. We pray that no objects are met in our prevention of that future war of their premodern nation as it is transfered into our control.
-By the authority of Duarte II, King of Portugal and Brazil, head of the commonwealth.
(Signed by the Govener-General of Brazil)
Aussey
July 25th, 2005, 05:15 AM
To: The Great Powers of the West
From: The Federal Empire of Mexico
The Federal Empire of Mexico does still graciously accept any foreign dignitaries, not acknowledging Texan sovereignty or independance, to the current Seat of the Imperial Court in Veracruz. We feel non-recognition of the Texan "republic" will allow the former Imperial departments back into the Empire, excluding the Commonwealth of Texas (a United Socialist States of America state) from our history independance. We feel unity at its greatest extent is necessary in these possibly troubled times.
As for the former Spanish colonies in South America, the Federal Empire of Mexico will be putting into effect, yet another, plan of action: The Imperial Plan. We will be recognizing the Spanish viceroyalities as vassal Kingdoms of the Federal Mexican Empire, with the opportunity and privilage of joining the Federal Empire in a set period of years. In the meantime, Imperial Forces will occupay the lands, in order to help the modernization of the area. Any complaints should be fowarded to the Secretariat of Foreign Affairs, and then to His Highness the Secretary of Foreign Affairs.
We thank you for your active, and non-agressive actions in these times of confusion, and look foward to a new Modern Age, where Hispanics, both of Spanish AND Portugese ancestry can share in Latin American brotherhood, and enjoy the Divine Grace and Opportunity God has bestowed upon us.
Signed
HIM Emperor Carlos I
Emperor of Mexico
King of Guatamala
pa_dutch
July 25th, 2005, 05:32 AM
To: Veracruz
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia will comply to your Imperial Plan under the following conditions:
These vassal states, or at least the Viceroyalty of La Plata and the Captaincy-General of Chile, still fall under co-Mexican and Araucanian occupation for the time being, with the aforementioned two parts of the former Spanish lands (minus the regions of Uruguay and Paraguay, which will go to Portuguese Brazil) becoming Araucanian economic protecorates at a later time.
The small peice of Chilean land south of the Rio Maule and the Pampas region of Argentina south of Buenos Aires be incorperated directly into our domain at a later time, also.
As we view ourselves as a Native American nation, we strongly push for the protection of rights for all indigenous people living in the former Spanish South American lands.
DuQuense
July 25th, 2005, 05:33 AM
Cuba is actively recruiting, to enlarge it's Military, It has Federalized the PR national Guard, and is recruiting heavily in Panama. Close to half the American military personnel in Cuba and PR have left to return to the US, But several thousand, mostly those with local Girlfriends, or wives, have deserted and enlisted in the Cuban Army. General Martin in Panama is trying to stay tough, but with the Arrival of the First Cuban and PR Forces, It is getting harder.
Aussey
July 25th, 2005, 05:49 AM
To: Veracruz
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia will comply to your Imperial Plan under the following conditions:
These vassal states, or at least the Viceroyalty of La Plata and the Captaincy-General of Chile, still fall under co-Mexican and Araucanian occupation for the time being, with the aforementioned two parts of the former Spanish lands (minus the regions of Uruguay and Paraguay, which will go to Portuguese Brazil) becoming Araucanian economic protecorates at a later time.
The small peice of Chilean land south of the Rio Maule and the Pampas region of Argentina south of Buenos Aires be incorperated directly into our domain at a later time, also.
As we view ourselves as a Native American nation, we strongly push for the protection of rights for all indigenous people living in the former Spanish South American lands.
His Imperial Majesty the Emperor of Mexico agrees, however, we feel at this time, annexation of the recently annexed Araucanian Pacific Islands, the Galagapos, and all non-claimed Pacific Islands, east of the International Date Line as Imperial Territory.
HH Fernando Jose del Reynaga
Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Fed. Empire of Mexico
pa_dutch
July 25th, 2005, 06:03 AM
Under joint Mexican and Araucanian rule, His Majesty Orelie-Antoine II agrees. This, however, excludes pre-established territories of our realm, including our mainland as well as Araucanian Antarctic claims. We still await the status of the Falkland, South Orkney, and South Shetland island chains, as to whether they are claimed by the British government in this world, before pursuing claim to them as well.
reformer
July 25th, 2005, 06:25 PM
We demand that you withdraw your claims on Texas. If you make any attempts to gain these lands, it will be viewed as an act of war. Also, in accordance with the Monroe Doctrine, if any European nation attempts to take advantage of Texas as Mexico suggested, it will be viewed as an act of war. We hope that we may eventually be able to reunify Texas with the United States.
Aussey
July 25th, 2005, 06:40 PM
We demand that you withdraw your claims on Texas. If you make any attempts to gain these lands, it will be viewed as an act of war. Also, in accordance with the Monroe Doctrine, if any European nation attempts to take advantage of Texas as Mexico suggested, it will be viewed as an act of war. We hope that we may eventually be able to reunify Texas with the United States.
We dont wish to correct Your Government on reading, but the following statements have been sent to the Western Powers. We must remind you that European powers are in the Eastern Hemisphere, and whatever Mexico wishes to do with the Hispanic nations, she is allowed to by the Joint Imperial Mexican-Brazillian Doctrine, which overrode and abolished the Monroe Doctrine in Latin, Central, and South America, giving your said powers to Mexico and Brazil. Surely our Hispanic brethren have more in common with a Mexican royal family, than presidents descending from Europeans themselves.
HIM Emperor Carlos II
Emperor of Mexico
King of Guatamala
Othniel
July 25th, 2005, 06:47 PM
Brazil as part of the Portuguese Commonwealth does object to the upstaging of that Goverment which is clearly independant. We also reject the Imperial plan and would instead like divide South America into clear indepedant nations. We will prepare the outline of the Bolivar plan which we wish to clearly represent.
reformer
July 25th, 2005, 06:47 PM
We do not recognise the treaties you speak of. You do not seem to fully comprehend this new world. We are prepared and willing to go to war, but we woud prefer a peaceful solution.
pa_dutch
July 25th, 2005, 07:10 PM
To: Brazil
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia wishes only to establish temporary protectorate status over the Captaincy-General of Chile and the Viceroyalty of La Plata to modernize them into fully independent kingdoms that will no longer be nuisances to our borders, as they are currently, but hopeful monarchic trading partners with which we hope to have a much more stable relationship than we do with the Republics of Chile and Argentina in our own world.
If you would like to annex the regions of Paraguay and Uruguay, which we may point out do not exist in any form under the organization of the Viceroyalty of La Plata, we will allow you to do so.
We also wish to grant the same aid to the ravaged Easter Island, which we hope to mold into an organized, viable kingdom based on the present lineage of Rapa Nui high chiefs in near time.
As far as the Viceroyalties of Peru and New Granada and all sub-divisions under them go, we have no concern other than the well-being of the native populations living under Hispanic rule. We are open to compromise, and we very much hope that you will agree to our side of things, which His Majesty King Orelie-Antoine II has dubbed the "South American Recovery Plan".
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
luakel
July 26th, 2005, 07:47 PM
We would like to inquire what your current relations with Mexico are, as they're threatening one of our allies.
NomadicSky
July 26th, 2005, 08:03 PM
We are growing alarmed by the Mexican threat to the South
They wish to force a monarchy on our nation!
This is in clear violation of the Monroe Doctrain!
We understand that in your world our nation formed the American southwest,
we hope that you can put that aside and recognize the sovereignty of our nation.
Our nation had a long history of friendship with our United States we hope for a similar relationship with your nation.
Best regards, William (Bill) Harrison President of the Texas Republic
pa_dutch
July 26th, 2005, 08:24 PM
TO: Italy
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia remains nuetral on the situation in Texas, though we are an ally of Mexico. We do not have a formal alliance with the Republic of Texas, and probably will not until everything clears up.
NomadicSky
July 26th, 2005, 09:26 PM
We seek cordial friendly relations with your nation, we would like to discuss the terms for an alliance between our two nations.
President John Marshall
Prime minister James Brooks
Republic of Canada
Othniel
July 26th, 2005, 09:30 PM
The Proleriant Republic of Western Europe ('France')
to The Republic of Canada
We wish to speak on the security of St.Pierre et Miquelon as to promt good relations between our nations. Prehaps a trade agreement for lessend taffirs?
Imajin
July 26th, 2005, 09:41 PM
((OOC: St.Pierre et Miquelon ))
Othniel
July 26th, 2005, 09:42 PM
((OOC: St.Pierre et Miquelon ))
OOC: Thank You! :D
NomadicSky
July 26th, 2005, 09:42 PM
The Islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon have been were brought to this world from our home earth shortly after our arrival we took control of these islands after they were unable to contact France.
In the hopes for good relation between our nations we will turn control of these islands to your French government.
reformer
July 26th, 2005, 10:35 PM
We would welcome any form of treaty with our neighbor to the north.
Othniel
July 26th, 2005, 10:37 PM
The Islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon have been were brought to this world from our home earth shortly after our arrival we took control of these islands after they were unable to contact France.
In the hopes for good relation between our nations we will turn control of these islands to your French government.
We, on behalf of the people of France, thank you for keeping our possesion safe.
reformer
July 26th, 2005, 10:46 PM
Article I: Recognition
The United States of America hereby recognises the territory claimed by the Republic of Texas. We relinquish our previous claims to the area.
Article II: Free trade
The United States of America and the Republic of Texas shall have a free unguarded border at times of peace, and will trade toghether without the bourden or tarrifs.
Article III: Relocation
There are citizens of the US who formerly lived in Texas lands. They will be allowed to move back to their homes. If their homes are occupied, they will be given a number of acres equivalent to their previous ownership. Only about 15% of the refugees have chosen this option. They will be granted joint US and Texas citizenship.
Article IV: Immigration
Any persons immigrating to or from Texas or the US to the other will be granted immediate citizenship upon request.
Article V: Foreign involvement
No countries, from either hemishperes will be allowed to violate Texan sovrenty.
Article VI: Defense
If any nation chooses to violate that sovrenty, the US will take military action. Likewise, Texan troops will participate in any American foreign involvement if needed and able.
Signed,
Al Smith, President of the United States,
Robert La Follete, Speaker of the House
Willian "Bill" Harrison, President of the Republic of Texas
Othniel
July 26th, 2005, 10:49 PM
Article III: Relocation
There are citizens of the US who formerly lived in Texas lands. They will be allowed to move back to their homes. If their homes are occupied, they will be given a number of acres equivalent to their previous ownership. Only about 15% of the refugees have chosen this option. They will be granted joint US and Texas citizenship.
Article IV: Immigration
Any persons immigrating to or from Texas or the US to the other will be granted immediate citizenship upon request.
That might require a constitutional amendment with the citzenship....just saying.
reformer
July 26th, 2005, 10:55 PM
I know. Already thought about that. But all parties are pro Texan and anti-Mexican in this case, and dealing with refugees is a delicate situation. The amendment is on the congressional floor being debated as we type.
Othniel
July 26th, 2005, 11:04 PM
With the loss of your largest Western States it should be a bit easier. The Progressives and Democrats, and maybe the Populists took serious hits.
luakel
July 26th, 2005, 11:39 PM
We are growing alarmed by the Mexican threat to the South
They wish to force a monarchy on our nation!
This is in clear violation of the Monroe Doctrain!
We understand that in your world our nation formed the American southwest,
we hope that you can put that aside and recognize the sovereignty of our nation.
Our nation had a long history of friendship with our United States we hope for a similar relationship with your nation.
Best regards, William (Bill) Harrison President of the Texas Republic
We would like to tell the Republic that we stand behind them in their resistance against the Mexicans, as we are allies of the USA.
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 12:10 AM
We would like to say that we will not allow Mexico to have control over any of the territories with Spanish rulers. We would like for our ally, the US, to assume a joint protectorate over them with you instead.
DuQuense
July 27th, 2005, 12:46 AM
Haiti & Santa Domingo have accepted the Cuban protectorate.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 12:49 AM
Haiti & Santa Domingo have accepted the Cuban protectorate.
Isn't Hati still French at this time, as well Santi Domingo had become a Revolt simular to the French Revolution?
Glen
July 27th, 2005, 02:18 AM
Isn't Hati still French at this time, as well Santi Domingo had become a Revolt simular to the French Revolution?
Haiti is in the hands of the rebelling slaves. On the Eastern end of the island the French and Spanish are battling it out for control.
None of these groups are likely to 'welcome' the protectorate status. Of course, who said you are giving them a choice...
Friendly advice: Take a fair number of troops with lots of guns to Haiti; these are newly free angry slaves.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 02:23 AM
I'm thinking it might be in my best intrest to protest this....
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 02:28 AM
I'm thinking it might be in my best intrest to protest this....
I support Oth's stand on this, and I think my American ally will as well.
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 02:40 AM
We would like to say that we will not allow Mexico to have control over any of the territories with Spanish rulers. We would like for our ally, the US, to assume a joint protectorate over them with you instead.
We cannot agree to the United States taking presence in South America, as they will only foster democratic ideas in the people, which has never benefitted the South America we knew before. We wish to leave the territories as they are, and we've written a treaty already. As an ally of Italy we ask you to please respect our decisions and to keep the situation in Texas from making our peaceful process any more complicated than it has to be. You may take back your diplomats who have been helping us negotiate with the Spanish colonials, if you must.
DuQuense
July 27th, 2005, 02:41 AM
five days ago
Port a Prince, Haiti
Toussaint L'OUVERTURE Didn't know what to do after years of Struggle his Army appeared near victory when this fleet of Strange ships, had appeared in Port a Prince. He was here under these Cubans flag of truce,
According the them it was the year 1927, and history told them He had Won, only to be betrayed by the French when he journeyed to Paris to discuss the peace. He was temped, by their offer of a Protectorate, They would handle the Foreign and Defense matters, while He would run the Country.
The French Governor hadn't wanted to Agree to the Truce, But a pass by these Cubans Flying machine [They called it a Corsair] while firing had change the Governors mind.
Toussaint L'OUVERTURE, Realized these Cubans next door, would be lots harder to Defeat, than the French 3.000 miles away. Telling the Cubans He had to consult with his Officers, he departed back to the hills.
Santa Dominga, Santa Dominga
Governor Ortagia looked out the window at the ships, there were only three of them, but all the fire from his forts this morning hadn't even dented there metal hulls, and the Return fire [Star shells, they called them] had shown the Futility of continuing. They claimed to be from a Independent Cuba, with records showing his Friend Governor Antigua, resigning in disgrace, in 1809. They also claimed it to be 1927. Deciding to believe them. He turned back to begin Discussions, about this Protectorate. Perhaps they could do something about this Toussaint L'OUVERTURE. madman in Haiti.
I asked for a mods decision , but as no answer in five days, I am assuming the Cubans get the protectorate,
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 02:43 AM
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia sets forth the following proposition to Mexico and Brazil:
The New South America Treaty
Article 1: Reconstruction
With (or without) the cooperation of Hispano-Italian diplomats, the former Spanish regions of western South America shall be reconstructed into the following independent kingdoms. Each newly created state shall be a constitutional monarchy under the hereditary leadership of the former Spanish viceroys and captain-generals:
The Kingdom of Caracas (formerly the Captaincy-General of Caracas, which was under the nominal control of the Viceroyalty of New Granada)
The Kingdom of New Granada (formerly the Viceroyalty of New Granada, in addition to the island territory of the Galapagos and excluding the Captaincy-General of Caracas)
The Kingdom of Peru (formerly the Viceroyalty of Peru, excluding a small southern portion and the Captaincy-General of Chile)
The Kingdom of La Plata (formerly the Viceroyalty of La Plata, in addition to a small portion of southern Peru)
The Kingdom of Chile (formerly the Captaincy-General of Chile, which was under the nominal control of the Viceroyalty of Peru, in addition to the island territories of the Desventuradas and the Juan Fernandez Islands)
The Kingdom of Easter Island (formerly the nominal Spanish territories of Easter Island and Sala-y-Gomez)
Article 2: Areas of influence
The new kingdoms of South America shall be divided into three zones of influence. Under a zone of influence, a host country will be responsible for the reconstruction of their client zones, and reserves the right to have a say in a subject kingdom’s economic, social, and foreign policies. In the case of La Plata, issues dealing specifically with the protected region will be dealt with by the appropriate host country, and national issues will involve the compromise of both the Kingdoms of Brazil and Araucania in addition to the national government. Any invasion or other offence of a zone of influence will be dealt with by the host country. After one year, any state or region under a zone of influence may choose to hold a referendum to be integrated politically into the host country. These are the three zones:
Under Mexican jurisdiction:
The Kingdom of Caracas
The Kingdom of New Granada
The Kingdom of Peru
Under Araucanian jurisdiction:
The Kingdom of Chile
The Kingdom of La Plata (The territory formerly known as the Audiencia of Buenos Aires)
The Kingdom of Easter Island
Under Brazilian jurisdiction:
The Kingdom of La Plata (The territories formerly known as the Audiencia of Charcas and the Intendencia of Paraguay)
In addition, the following will be directly incorporated into the host country: The Coronado Islands and Pitcairn (to the Federated Empire of Mexico), Chilean land south of the Rio Maule and the southern half of La Plata’s Pampas region (to the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia), and the La Plata region of Banda Oriental (to the Kingdom of Brazil).
Article 3: Rights
All people living under control of the three zones of influence, including the unassimilated indigenous populations, will be granted the protection of civil rights under the constitutions of the new states they are subject to, including the regions directly incorporated into the host nations, as full, unexploited citizens. The exact definitions of these rights will be later defined by the host country in conjunction with the new national government and approved of by the other two host nations.
Article 4: Alliance
In order to help preserve the traditional monarchic order of South America, the governments of all South American kingdoms and territories will host occasional pan-South American forums to discuss internal matters, in a different city each time, especially in times of crisis. It is hoped that all nations of South America shall coexist in harmony and stability under the rule of monarchs, and may they be blessed with a bright future.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 02:43 AM
It must be noted that the King of Portugal does have the pedigree in which inheirtance to the crown of Spain, at least in the colonies, would be best suited that prehaps the colonies be given to Portugal as a dowery?
Edit: Please take this is a off the record statement by my diplomats. Brazil being part of the Commonwealth is a bit lighthearted.
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 02:46 AM
We will of course act in ocordance with the sugestions of Italy, but the current American government believes that they could provide assistance to these areas, and in doing so instill the ideals of liberty and Democracy etc. in the area. This is assuming that they will gain full independance in, say, 7 years.
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 02:47 AM
We cannot agree to the United States taking presence in South America, as they will only foster democratic ideas in the people, which has never benefitted the South America we knew before. We wish to leave the territories as they are, and we've written a treaty already. As an ally of Italy we ask you to please respect our decisions and to keep the situation in Texas from making our peaceful process any more complicated than it has to be. You may take back your diplomats who have been helping us negotiate with the Spanish colonials, if you must.
We would like to say that any country which opposes democracy is no ally of us, and we will be withdrawing our diplomats at once.
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 02:49 AM
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia sets forth the following proposition to Mexico and Brazil:
The New South America Treaty
Article 1: Reconstruction
With (or without) the cooperation of Hispano-Italian diplomats, the former Spanish regions of western South America shall be reconstructed into the following independent kingdoms. Each newly created state shall be a constitutional monarchy under the hereditary leadership of the former Spanish viceroys and captain-generals:
The Kingdom of Caracas (formerly the Captaincy-General of Caracas, which was under the nominal control of the Viceroyalty of New Granada)
The Kingdom of New Granada (formerly the Viceroyalty of New Granada, in addition to the island territory of the Galapagos and excluding the Captaincy-General of Caracas)
The Kingdom of Peru (formerly the Viceroyalty of Peru, excluding a small southern portion and the Captaincy-General of Chile)
The Kingdom of La Plata (formerly the Viceroyalty of La Plata, in addition to a small portion of southern Peru)
The Kingdom of Chile (formerly the Captaincy-General of Chile, which was under the nominal control of the Viceroyalty of Peru, in addition to the island territories of the Desventuradas and the Juan Fernandez Islands)
The Kingdom of Easter Island (formerly the nominal Spanish territories of Easter Island and Sala-y-Gomez)
Article 2: Areas of influence
The new kingdoms of South America shall be divided into three zones of influence. Under a zone of influence, a host country will be responsible for the reconstruction of their client zones, and reserves the right to have a say in a subject kingdom’s economic, social, and foreign policies. In the case of La Plata, issues dealing specifically with the protected region will be dealt with by the appropriate host country, and national issues will involve the compromise of both the Kingdoms of Brazil and Araucania in addition to the national government. Any invasion or other offence of a zone of influence will be dealt with by the host country. After one year, any state or region under a zone of influence may choose to hold a referendum to be integrated politically into the host country. These are the three zones:
Under Mexican jurisdiction:
The Kingdom of Caracas
The Kingdom of New Granada
The Kingdom of Peru
Under Araucanian jurisdiction:
The Kingdom of Chile
The Kingdom of La Plata (The territory formerly known as the Audiencia of Buenos Aires)
The Kingdom of Easter Island
Under Brazilian jurisdiction:
The Kingdom of La Plata (The territories formerly known as the Audiencia of Charcas and the Intendencia of Paraguay)
In addition, the following will be directly incorporated into the host country: The Coronado Islands and Pitcairn (to the Federated Empire of Mexico), Chilean land south of the Rio Maule and the southern half of La Plata’s Pampas region (to the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia), and the La Plata region of Banda Oriental (to the Kingdom of Brazil).
Article 3: Rights
All people living under control of the three zones of influence, including the unassimilated indigenous populations, will be granted the protection of civil rights under the constitutions of the new states they are subject to, including the regions directly incorporated into the host nations, as full, unexploited citizens. The exact definitions of these rights will be later defined by the host country in conjunction with the new national government and approved of by the other two host nations.
Article 4: Alliance
In order to help preserve the traditional monarchic order of South America, the governments of all South American kingdoms and territories will host occasional pan-South American forums to discuss internal matters, in a different city each time, especially in times of crisis. It is hoped that all nations of South America shall coexist in harmony and stability under the rule of monarchs, and may they be blessed with a bright future.
Though we oppose the US having no part in these negotiations and the participation of Mexico, an enemy at the time, we reluctantly agree to give you authority over these lands.
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 02:50 AM
We will of course act in ocordance with the sugestions of Italy, but the current American government believes that they could provide assistance to these areas, and in doing so instill the ideals of liberty and Democracy etc. in the area. This is assuming that they will gain full independance in, say, 7 years.
We think that this would be a very good plan.
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 02:51 AM
To: Mexico
We would like to suggest that you withdraw your claims from Texas, as the resources that South America will provide would benefit your country far more than a worthless, barren desert would.
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 02:52 AM
We fear the growth and exspansion of Mexico, and believe that the sugested South American treaty will quell freedom in the area. Are you certain this is the best proposal?
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 02:54 AM
We fear the growth and exspansion of Mexico, and believe that the sugested South American treaty will quell freedom in the area. Are you certain this is the best proposal?
As we have stated, we are against it, but we see no way to go beyond diplomatic protests.
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 02:56 AM
As we consider ourselves a Native American nation, we would fear for the rights of the indigenous people of the South American lands if occupied by the United States, which we would remind you has a history of deplorable treatment of their own native people.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 03:00 AM
Portugal-Brazil to USA, Italy:
We have since 1822 been a Constutional Monarchy. We wish to allow the nations under our influence form their own constution. We wish to allow them to devolp into their own indepedant nations within the Commonwealth. We hope that our long record of effective care of colonies should be proof our abillity to take care of the area. Furthermore our union can testify of the loyalty we inspire.
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 03:02 AM
Portugal-Brazil to USA, Italy:
We wish to allow the nations under our influence form their own constution. We wish to allow them to devolp into their own indepedant nations within the Commonwealth. We hope that our long record of effective care of colonies should be proof our abillity to take care of the area. Furthermore our union can testify of the loyalty we inspire.
We applaud this effort to spread democracy.
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 03:22 AM
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia constitutionally protects the rights of all people living under our king, and we wish to grant the same on our protectorates, which will also become independent constitutional monarchies once they are ready for it.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 03:23 AM
The Federation of the West Indies, with special attention to the Republic of Costa Rica in particular*, deplores this attempt to stifle the democratic needs of the Hispanic people in South America.
((* - Some members of the Federation are Republics, some are constitutional monarchies (oftentimes Dominions), though the King of the West Indies still rules over them))
NomadicSky
July 27th, 2005, 03:29 AM
You seem unwilling to negotiate with our nation, you continue to claim our lands as though they were still your own.
Therefore we will extend our claim lands in your nation that were once part of ours.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 03:44 AM
((OOC: Has Mexico even posted about this recently?))
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 03:45 AM
((OOC: Has Mexico even posted about this recently?))
OOC:Were is Aussey?
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 03:47 AM
OOC:Were is Aussey?
OOC: He hasn't posted for a day...
Mayhem
July 27th, 2005, 04:26 AM
The Empire of Great Japan
To: The United States of America, via the Phillipines
Friends,
We must inform you of the situation in the East Indies. French Indochinese and USSP fleets, have entered Flemish waters in breach of the Prague Convention. Their intentions seem the annexation of the East Indies as a whole. We fear that the USSP in particular has intent to annex not only the East Indies, but also any and all islands in the Pacific Region, including the Phillipines and Pacifica.
We have attempted to mediate the situation by sending in a protectorate force, but our fleets were turned back by USSP naval vessels, in strength resembling an invasion force. Again, Imperial Japanese Military High Command has determined that they seem to have a presence in the region capable of overrunning any and all American territory.
It is our humble request that the United States, a relatively neutral party, aid the Empire of Great Japan to mediate the situation, perhaps with an eye towards ensuring the independance of the East Indies. Of course, should the American military be unable to intervene directly, your support in our diplomatic efforts to ensure the Archipelago's integrity would be greatly appreciated.
The Empire of Great Japan, Office of the Minister for Foreign Affairs
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 04:41 AM
To: Italy
We can assure you that we in no way oppose the republican form of government, but as a South American nation with a long history of dealings with the neighboring republics of our world, we feel that we know what is right for the continent. We'd remind you that due to our location, we will be the first to feel the reprocussions of whatever actions are taken in dealing with the former Spanish territories, and we would like to keep the situation within Latin America. Constitutional monarchy is the direction we feel is best, and would point to our own protected freedoms and stability to examplify what we hope to achieve to the north. As our ally, we hope that you will understand our cause.
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
Aussey
July 27th, 2005, 05:51 PM
Sorry...I wont be "allowed" on for a while... :D
Mexico accepts the treaty,
and refuses to all US influence go into Latin (Mexico and Guatamala) Central, (we control it to), and South America.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 05:55 PM
and refuses to all US influence go into Latin (Mexico and Guatamala) Central, (we control it to), and South America.
By definition Latin America is any French, Spainsh or Portuguese Territories in the Americans (Caribbean, North America, South America). Besides the Federation of the West Indies has Central America under its grip.
Aussey
July 27th, 2005, 06:02 PM
By definition Latin America is any French, Spainsh or Portuguese Territories in the Americans (Caribbean, North America, South America). Besides the Federation of the West Indies has Central America under its grip.
Not all of it, which Mexico annexed quickly enough.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Not all of it, which Mexico annexed quickly enough.
It's not here. And We'd protest if it was.
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 06:09 PM
To: Italy
We can assure you that we in no way oppose the republican form of government, but as a South American nation with a long history of dealings with the neighboring republics of our world, we feel that we know what is right for the continent. We'd remind you that due to our location, we will be the first to feel the reprocussions of whatever actions are taken in dealing with the former Spanish territories, and we would like to keep the situation within Latin America. Constitutional monarchy is the direction we feel is best, and would point to our own protected freedoms and stability to examplify what we hope to achieve to the north. As our ally, we hope that you will understand our cause.
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
We understand, but we still wish that you alone would take control of these territories, and not allow Mexico to take control as well.
Aussey
July 27th, 2005, 06:14 PM
We understand, but we still wish that you alone would take control of these territories, and not allow Mexico to take control as well.
However...Mexican troops and ships have already landed, hoisted our foags above the viceroyal ones, and set up our "kings." and begun the restoration. Any problemes should be sent to the Secretariat of Foreign Affairs in Mexico City...Thank you.
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 06:16 PM
However...Mexican troops and ships have already landed, hoisted our foags above the viceroyal ones, and set up our "kings." and begun the restoration. Any problemes should be sent to the Secretariat of Foreign Affairs in Mexico City...Thank you.
Very well, we would like to know what your current diplomatic relations with Texas are.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 06:16 PM
To: The Community of Nations
From: The Federation of the West Indies
The Federation of the West Indies wishes permission to take the islands of Guadeloupe, Martinique, and the former Danish West Indies under it's control. Preliminary studies show these islands to be in an 1800 state, and we believe they would prosper under our rule.
Glen
July 27th, 2005, 06:21 PM
To: The Community of Nations
From: The Federation of the West Indies
The Federation of the West Indies wishes permission to take the islands of Guadeloupe, Martinique, and the former Danish West Indies under it's control. Preliminary studies show these islands to be in an 1800 state, and we believe they would prosper under our rule.
Guadeloupe is 1927 French. The others should be okay I think.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 06:24 PM
To: The Community of Nations
From: The Federation of the West Indies
The Federation of the West Indies wishes permission to take the islands of Guadeloupe, Martinique, and the former Danish West Indies under it's control. Preliminary studies show these islands to be in an 1800 state, and we believe they would prosper under our rule.
Negative, Guadloupe and Martinique are French territories of our time, and are still loyal to this Proleriant Republic. Our communications with them have confirmed that they are ours, and we will protect them.
-The People of France.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 06:25 PM
To: The Proletariat Republic
From: The Federation of the West Indies
We apoligize for our misunderstanding.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 06:30 PM
Also the Dutch West Indies should be put under Flemish rule through Suriname to keep the integerity of Dutch Speaking Colonies under the rule of the former Netherlands. After all they Speak the same lanague and the transistion would be easists on the Backtimers if they kept their alliagances to the modren day equalivanlts. However Central America is under the Spainsh crown which does not fully exsist.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 06:34 PM
((OOC: DANISH, not Dutch))
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 06:36 PM
((OOC: DANISH, not Dutch))
((OCC: The danes are still around....))
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 06:36 PM
The recent political squables in Latin America have turned the tide in congress against the Urban and Agricultural Populists, who are in favor of some, though not complete, restraint. The Republicans, believers in more or less collective security (very diffrent TL then OTL mind you) have grown frightened of Mexico's growing strength, and have switched sides from a populist coalition to a progressive coalition (note, the Progressives, led by a non polio and politicaly different FDR are very unlike La Follete's OTL party, they have become a party of the lower middle class and non immigrant blue colars. They are the most agressive foreign policy wise, and their policies highly reflect thoes of Teddy Roosevelt, who was a Progressive). The Democrats, hoping to perhaps regain control of Texas, have also joined the coaliton, but only temporarily, giving congress the necessary power. The president, who is weaker than OTL, will be forced to carry their will to a certain exstent untill the next election, where Roosevelt will probably be elected.
Congressional Ultimatum to Mexico
We demmand that you withdraw your forces from any lands other than your empire, and that you relinquish controll of your newly gained Latin American satelites. We give you one weeks time (which means I guess, what, a few hours?) to obbey this.
United States of America
In order to insure your indepenance, and help you conquer the areas that you have claimed, we request that, in accordance with our treaty, you will allow American troops into Texas in case of war with Mexico.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 06:39 PM
The Federation of the West Indies officially condemns the American interference in Latin America towards the soverign Empire of Mexico in particular, and the American attempts at ending already solved agreements.
His Majesty, Jeremy I/III, King of the West Indies and King of Miskitia
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 06:40 PM
We would like to announce that in a war between the United States and the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia (both are our allies), we shall not aid either side.
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 06:43 PM
US to involved nation
We have no interest in Patagonia or the Caribean. We are not going to annex any territory. We simply see Mexico as a terrible influence on this world. We will not stand to have them become an American Empire.
Progressive Party to Italy
You speak of Democracy as important. Well, this is how it spreads. By fightin tyranny.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 06:45 PM
((OOC: Involved Nation? Who is that?))
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 06:47 PM
Typo. . . involved Nations. . .. stupid stuck s
luakel
July 27th, 2005, 06:48 PM
((OOC: Involved Nation? Who is that?))
OOC: Italy.
Imajin
July 27th, 2005, 06:52 PM
To: The United States of America
From: The Federation of the West Indies
The Federation believes it has no reason the United States, which as history shows us has a history of ignoring land rights in Canada*, the lands of the American Natives, and the lands it gained in the southwest, as a preferable influence than the Empire of Mexico, which seems to be working to keep the historical government in place.
Your nation seems to have a fear of Monarchies, judging from your mention of an "American Empire". Will you next order our good King to abdicate the throne?
* - Confusing their TL with the new Mosaic World...
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Sorry for the confusion. I forgot to type the s after nation. So it bassically goes to everyone.
Othniel
July 27th, 2005, 06:54 PM
Brazil to All Nations:
We suggest then that a meeting of estates be assembled in the Spainsh Colonies. We form them into assemblies based upon regions inside the Greater Kingdoms and give each of them limited choices of what they should do, we under the Portuguese Crown have found freedom and are willing to assure each district also has a choice of Freedom.
We simply tell them that the Crown of Spain is dead, and that they have been given a choice to form a constution. We tell them that it has abandon its colonies and give the people the choice to either join a crown, be self ruled, be self-ruled within a greater organization, or some option that escapes me. They have an effective goverment in place, but in 20 short years will abandon it. If we act now we can use our knoledge of their future to prevent many of the problems that would face them.
-Representive of the Portuguese Commonwealth
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 06:56 PM
We support this sugestion.
USA to Indies
We refer not to the monarchy but to the exspansion. We have no problems with your king, and our fight is only with Mexico. We believe that Brazil's sugestion is a fair comprimise.
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 07:01 PM
We do not seek war with the United States, and we recognize its power. We simply wish that for once someone else's voice could be heard rather than having the usual powers step in and take charge, which history will show you is not always the best way to go. If it had not been for the American Civil War in our world, the United States probably would have used its Monroe Doctrine to prevent our dear allies the French from aiding our people, and rather than a thriving nation Araucania and Patagonia would be underdeveloped and oppressed regions annexed by our northern neighbors, the republics of Chile and Argentina. We feel that as nations close to the region in question with deep historical ties, that our solution is the right one to be implemented at this time.
The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 07:07 PM
To Brazil:
This is much in line with what we hope to accomplish. We will support your notion and hope that together we as South American powers may help to maintain the effective governmental organization in the region and secure the freedoms and liberties that all living there deserve.
reformer
July 27th, 2005, 09:37 PM
You may assist if requested, but what is unique about Brazil's proposal is that it gives these areas the right to remain independant. Who are we, after all, to simply takeover? We do not believe that the Empire of Mexico would benefit these areas. It would, in fact, be an ocupation. Therefore we should except the viceroy's freedom if requested.
pa_dutch
July 27th, 2005, 11:02 PM
To: USA
Under the Araucanian plan the viceroys are completely independent too. They only remain protectorates until they are stable enough to function on their own, and even under the protectorate they are free to govern themselves. You cannot simply declare them independent and let them free... This is what happened to the South America we came from, and it only resulted in corruption and poverty. The only way a protectorate can be incorperated formally into another nation is if the majority of the population votes to do so.
reformer
July 28th, 2005, 02:34 AM
We believe that the Protectorates may be abused, therefore we support the Brazil plan which seems to be universally popular.
pa_dutch
July 28th, 2005, 04:30 AM
Does the United States not claim protectorate over the Philippine Islands anymore? What makes your country more trustworthy than ours? As the first nation to take notice of the situation in South America and make efforts toward dealing with it, we claim the right to participate in the Brazilian plan.
reformer
July 28th, 2005, 12:44 PM
The Brazillian plan is being handled by Brazil. If they need your assistance, they will ask.
pa_dutch
July 28th, 2005, 05:03 PM
The Brazilians were working with the Araucanians before, and we see no reason why they would exclude us.
reformer
July 28th, 2005, 06:31 PM
As we interpret it, the Brazilian pan involves much less foreign involvement. Are countries can survive with the territories they already posses.
Othniel
July 28th, 2005, 08:05 PM
Asucion and Montevideo, Viceroy of La Plata
August 6th
Tanks rolled into the towns, and shouts cried out against it. In Montevideo a soldier shot off a few rounds into the air as a man stood atop a tank. "I wish to speak to your leaders as the leaders of Spain were excuted by French Troops. We want to give you a chance to opperate indepdantly of the French controlled Spainsh Crown. Tell the leaders of La Plata to meet, we are calling for your Viceroy to call for an meeting of the Estates. If we must we are willing to host such a conferance among first with the Capicity-Generals, and then the Viceroy of LA Plata, and then all the South American Spainsh Viceroyalities."
DuQuense
July 29th, 2005, 01:32 AM
From
The Caribbean Federation
To
The : The Proletariat Republic of France
While the Caribbean Federation Deplores the Form of Government chosen by the Cochin Chinese, Whe agree in their right to govern themselves. The Caribbean Federation hereby recognizes the Peoples Republic of Cochin China. And Any attempt to Force French control on Indochina, will result in the Federation closing the Canal to French Shipping.
pa_dutch
July 30th, 2005, 11:42 PM
As we interpret it, the Brazilian pan involves much less foreign involvement. Are countries can survive with the territories they already posses.
To the USA: Of course our countries can survive... Unlike you typical Western imperialists, we are concerned with the ability of these underdeveloped colonial governments to survive without being taken advantage of. If you set these former Spanish provinces free right away, they will be doomed to collapse into anarchy, poverty, and corrupt dictatorship. We speak from our own experiences in dealing with the unstable South American republics of our world.
reformer
July 31st, 2005, 02:46 AM
Is your South American plan moving forward?
Othniel
July 31st, 2005, 09:02 PM
Brazil to the USA:
Proceeding as planned.
Mayhem
August 4th, 2005, 08:22 AM
Sirs,
It is much to our chagrin that, following the upheaval of the world, many old trading agreements were disrupted. As your government may know, our nation has few local oil or iron reserves. As such, we had been in the practice of importing such goods from your nation.
Unfortunately, this has been disrupted, so we seek to forge a new agreement with you in order to procure the resources necessary for Japanese industry and defence. We request a source of oil and iron, coal as well would be appreciated, for which we shall be willing to pay handsomely.
Foreign Office, Empire of Great Japan
**After some quick research, this message is reditributed to Canada's Alaskan province and Texas, in addition to Washington**
luakel
August 4th, 2005, 04:04 PM
As you are our allies, we would like to know what you are willing to export to us and what we can import to you in return.
reformer
August 4th, 2005, 05:02 PM
US House of Reppresentatives
The chambers were completely full as the congressman argued the most important matter of the day: free trade in a new world that couldn't be trusted.
The Progressives, in an attempt to distance themselves from the socialists, were strong advocates of free trade. Also being more milateristic, they had some fondness for the BEIC and Japan.
The Socialists naturally hated the idea, especially the fact that US ports would be used against a prolitarian revolt in Indo-China. Free trade has of course never been on the socialist agenda.
The Republicans, still the party of the upper middle class supported the free trade, but would at the same time want to further investigate the possible harmful uses of such trade in countries like Japan or Patagonia.
The Populists, formerly the party of the agricultural poor, now having sucessfully moved into a more urban setting, had become advocates of smaller government in comparrison to the radical socialists, and even the Progressives. But the party was also very hesitant to aid Japan/
The Democrats began by obstaining, knowing that their vote would be necessary for a decision. Eventually they were bribed by the Progressives, who promissed to support pro-segerigation legislation in exchange, so the vote went for free trade.
pa_dutch
August 5th, 2005, 07:46 AM
As you are our allies, we would like to know what you are willing to export to us and what we can import to you in return.
To: Italy
Our nation's primary exports are petroleum, natural gas, wool, and to a lesser extent, iron ore, potatoes, alfalfa, peaches, plums, almonds, apples, pears, olives, and grapes.
luakel
August 5th, 2005, 06:28 PM
To: Italy
Our nation's primary exports are petroleum, natural gas, wool, and to a lesser extent, iron ore, potatoes, alfalfa, peaches, plums, almonds, apples, pears, olives, and grapes.
Our exports are wheat, various spices, tomatoes, natural gas, clothing materials, and automobiles.
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