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Othniel

July 18th, 2005, 01:28 AM

Include the following: Not Open till Tuesday, July 19th

Official Name:
Capital: (name and population)
Population:
Head of State:
History:
National currencies:
National Day and other important days:
System of Government:
Ethnic groups: (perchanage of population)
Languages:
Religions: (perecent practicing)

Othniel

July 19th, 2005, 05:45 PM

Official Name:
Proletariat Republic of Western Europe
Capital:
Paris (2,152,000)
Population:
66 Million
Head of State:
President
History:
1871- At the end of the Franco-Prussian War the Communard Revolution spread throughout France. A Worker's Republic threw off the corrupt Bourgiess.
1881- Wallonia sperates from Beligium, joins the Social Democracy that is France.
1883- Communard Revolutions start in Ireland.
1889- Rebellions weaken Germany and Great Britian.
1901- Great Britian, Germany and Austria-Hungary declare war on France. France having dropped some of its conflicting claims with Italy has unitied in war against the two. Russia would join the war in 1903. The war would end two years after the Americans joined on France's behalf. The war ended 1912.
1914- Civil War goes throughout the United Kingdom as Scotland and Ireland attempt to separate.
1917- Ireland and France form the Proletariat Republic of Western Europe.
1923- As a sign of good will France gives the former Luxembourg part of Beligium to Luxembourg.
1924- Norway seceeds from Sweden peacefully. War seems to be on the horizon as Liosism(fascism) sweeps across Great Great Britian and into Eastern Germany. Russia collaspes to communist(not communard, they wish to sweap away all capitalism instead of Gradually replace it.) forces.

National currencies:
Franc
National Day and other important days:
March 18, Commune Day
System of Government:
Degelagotory Republic. (Delegations are sent from different parts of the Republic by their respective populace, they can be dissmissed at anytime.)
Ethnic groups:
60% French, 30% Irish. 10% Other
Languages:
French
Religions:
67% Roman Catholic, 14% Protestant, 12% Athetist, 5% Muslim, 2% Other
Pre-Isot Boarders:
Wallonia (-luxembourg the region) France (gained back Alsance and Loraine), East Switzerland, Ireland, and France's Colonies (Am only ISOTing Gaudelope)
Flag:
Red Flag with Liberté, Egalité printed on it in gold letters. The french imperial eagle has its wings spread, while wearing a Phygrian Cap, and holds a broken spetar in its claws as a gold silliotet.

reformer

July 19th, 2005, 05:59 PM

Ok, so we have a moderate commie contry. . . someone needs to play a real bad guy. . .

United States of America
You can read the TL from the main alternate history board. Bassically William Jennings Bryan and TR are forced into third parties, and the American electoral system breaks down, with the elections in congress making the difference. The nation is exstrememly politicaly devided, and has a greater minority population, especially Italian and Greek.

Capitol
Washington D.C.

Population:
Not sure. . . someone help me on this one.

Head of State
Al Smith, of the recently urbanised Populist Party

Religion
Lets say 70% Protestant, 20% Catholic, 4% Jewsish, the rest other

Othniel

July 19th, 2005, 06:02 PM

Aussey

July 19th, 2005, 06:04 PM

Official Name: Union of South Africa
Capital: Pretoria (executive), Cape Town (legislative), and Bloemfontein (judicial)
Population: 27,000,000
Head of State: Prime Minister Hertzog; Governor-General: Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn (hold's no real power)
History: The Union of South Africa came into being on 31 May 1910, comprising four states representing the British and Boer populations of South Africa following the end of the Boer War in 1902. The two British colonies, the Cape Colony and Natal Colony, were combined with the two defeated Boer states, the South African Republic and Orange Free State, known thereafter as the Cape Province, Natal, Transvaal and the Orange Free State, respectively.

Unlike Canada and Australia, the Union is a unitary state, rather than a federation, with each colony's parliaments being abolished and replaced with provincial councils. A bicameral parliament has been created, consisting of a House of Assembly and Senate, and its members are elected mostly by the country's white minority.

Owing to disagreements over where the Union's capital city should be, a compromise was reached in which every province would be represented: the seat of government would be in Pretoria (Transvaal), the seat of parliament would be in Cape Town (Cape Province), the judiciary would be in Bloemfontein (Orange Free State), and Pietermaritzburg (Natal) was given financial compensation. This arrangement continues to this day, with government ministers, civil servants, and diplomats moving from Pretoria to Cape Town every year when Parliament is in session, and back to Pretoria when it is not.

The Union remains under the British Crown as self-governing dominion of the British Empire, and later the Commonwealth. The monarchy is represented in South Africa by a Governor-General, while effective power was exercised by the Prime Minister. Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn is the current Governo-General and James Barry Munnik Hertzog is current Prime Minister.

National currencies: South African Pound Sterling (£1 = 100 pence)
National Day and other important days: May 31 (Dominion Day), and other major Anglican feast dates
System of Government: self-governing dominion of the British Empire
Ethnic groups: Black (70%), White (10%), Colored (8%), Asian (7%)
Languages: English, Dutch, Afrikkan (All official)
Religions: Christian 97% (Anglican 79%, Dutch Reformed 10%, Other Protestan 6%, Other Christian 5%) , Islam 2% (Sunni 1.9%, Shi'ite (.1%), Other 1%

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/z/za-1928.gif

Aussey

July 19th, 2005, 06:21 PM

Official Name: Federated Mexican Empire
Capital: Mexico City
Population: 40,000,000
Head of State: Emperor Carlos Benedict-Orleans-Bragnaza
History: A History of the Mexican Empire (http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=18095)
1922-1925: The Great War fought by Mexico, Republic of America, Prussia, Brazil, Austria-Hungary, and Sardinia vs. Great Britain, Russia, France, Serbia, Denmark, and Canada. The Central Powers (Mexico, Prussia, etc.) ended up winning, but at a deadly cost. Inflation and poverty struck almost every nation on Earth. Luckily, by now, Mexico has somewhat restored its economy, and has patched up relations with Great Britain and Canada.
National currencies: Imperial Peso
National Day and other important days: September 27 (Independence Recognized Day), May 9 (Emperor's Birthday)
System of Government: Federated Consitutional Monarchy
Ethnic groups: Mexican (80%), Native (10%), Other Hispanic (8%), Other (2%)
Languages: Spanish (official), English in the Coahuila province, Fench is spoken widely.
Religions: Roman Catholic (official) 89%, Anglican 5%, Other Christian 3%, Orthodox 1%, Native religions 1%

reformer

July 19th, 2005, 06:46 PM

Ok, here's the concept exsplained:
http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=15341

And its early history:
http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=15490

NomadicSky

July 19th, 2005, 06:54 PM

Official Name:
Republic Of Texas

Capital:
Santa Fe 175,859
Population:
20,429,722
Head of State:
President

History:
Texas wasn't annexed by the United States European nations fearing the United States would gain control of Mexico and become to powerfull powerfull supported the Texas Republic in it's early days.
Throught the throughout the 19th century Texas fought three major wars with Mexico each time with European intervention Texas gained lands with the final annexation of California in 1863 the Texas republic gained it's modern borders.

National currencies:
Texan Dollar
National Day and other important days:
Independence day March 2,1836

System of Government:
Federal Republic

Ethnic groups:
60%Caucasian 20%Negroid 15%Hispanic 5%other

Languages:
English official Spanish

Religions:
68% Protestant 21%Catholic 6% Mormon 3%Jewish 2%other

Lauranthalas

July 19th, 2005, 07:04 PM

Official Name:
United States of the South Pacific (USSP)

Capital:
Sydney (2,000,000 Residents)

Population:
30,836,000

Head of State:
President Marc Gilbert

Territories:
Australia, New Zealand, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Nauru, Tonga, New Caledonia, Norfolk Islands, Samoa, Christmas Islands, Gilbert Islands, Marshall Islands, Tahiti, Palmyra Atoll, Cook Islands and the entire Island of Papua New Guinea

National currencies:
Southern Pacific Pound

National Day and other important days:
26th January (1788) - Colony Day (firs settlement "Port Jackson" later to become Sydney)
13th May (1845) - Independence Day

System of Government:
Republic

Ethnic groups: (perchanage of population)
White (50%), Pacific Islander & native Australians/ New Zealanders (30%), Asian - continental (15%), Hispanic (2%), Black (2%), others (1%)

Languages:
English, French, Maori, Tongan, Tok Pisin, Hiri Motu, Bislama, Bau Fijian, Hindustani, Samoan,
official language is English

Religions: (perecent practicing)
Christianity - all kinds (70%), native religions (20%), Hinduism (8%), others (2%)

History comes later

luakel

July 19th, 2005, 08:09 PM

Name: Repubblica di Italia
Capital: Rome (2,327,000 people)
Population: (on Italy) 39,405,300 (Italy and Colonies) 61,782,699
Head of State: Emperor: Napoleon V, Prime Minister: Benito Mussolini
History: Once Napoleon had finally established peace with his Russian enemies, he decided to pay homage to the Italian side of his heritage. Almost all of Italy was under his control at this point, and he had a grand idea: Instead of having them stay in separate states, he unified them into one single state. Ruled by le petit caporal’s stepson Eugene, the Kingdom of Italy soon became a minor satellite, playing a small part in Austria’s defeat at the hands of Napoleon. But this could not stop Napoleon’s defeat y the Russian Steamroller and Spanish Ulcer. Luckily for the Kingdom of Italy, Joachim Murat’s army escaped inside it’s borders making the infant army to powerful for the Coalition to take on at the moment. Though Murat will leave to fight at Waterloo, his army is the beginning of today’s Esercito Italiano.

Austria would soon try to take back it’s lands in Tyrol and Illyria in the 1st Tyrolean War in 1821, but it’s failure proved that the Armee de Italiano was a strong foe. Eugene died in 1824 in the recently proclaimed capital of Milan, his son Charles took over. As events were to prove, Charles would rule for less time than his father, as a coup by his distant cousin Louis Napoleon in early 1837 would topple the monarchy. Louis then proclaimed himself Napoleon III, Emperor of Italy. He had dreams of the Roman Empire being reborn, and began to fulfill these dreams by declaring war on the recently independent Greece in 1840. Though the Italians took it quickly, the attack caused a declaration of war by France and Britain. Italy’s infant fleet was crushed while trying to attack Malta, but a British landing at Anzio was crushed, as were French efforts in the Alps. A face-saving deal was made in 1842 which allowed Italy to make Greece a practical puppet, but many Italians were asking why their emperor had started the war anyway.

When the wave of revolutions swept Europe in 1848, Le Emperor found himself hanging on to the monarchy by his fingertips. He was forced to come to terms with the republicans, installing a senate and creating the position of Prime Minster. Though the Emperor kept some of his powers, all of his decisions were now presented to the senate for decision. For Prime Minster, the senate appointed Giuseppe Mazzini, who would have powers such as declaring war, thinking up new laws to show to the senate, and, most importantly, he was the official commander of all the armed forces. A new PM would be appointed every 6 years. In Germany, where the Frankfurt Convention was successful in creating a German republic, consisting of all the North German states, including Prussia, Italy found a powerful ally. In 1866, the two allies waged a war against Austria resulting in Germany annexing Bavaria and it’s allies, and Italy gaining control of all of Austria’s Adriatic sea holdings.

When Napoleon III died in 1874, he left his son, Napoleon Eugene Louis John Joseph, in control of Italy as Napoleon IV. The studious young Emperor immediately embarked on a tour of Italy with his Prime Minister, Marco Minghetti, and ended up whipping up a new wave of imperialism, leading to the conquest of Tunis in 1879 and Greece slowly becoming an actual part of the Empire. When the Hamburg Conference convened in 1884 to divide Africa, Italy managed to secure a claim on Eritrea. And in the late 1880’s, Italy used the Spanish Civil War as an excuse to intervene to “restore order”, slowly incorporating Iberia into the growing Italian Empire. When Napoleon IV died after more than forty years of ruling in 1911, his son Napoleon V started out his reign by attacking Turkey. This war led to the Italian acquisition of the Dodecanese Islands and Libya, and Serbia agreeing to become an Italian puppet in exchange for Bosnia and Macedonia. When World War I took place between the coalition of Germany, Great Britain, Turkey, and Romania, and the allies: France, Austria, and Russia, Italy managed to stay neutral under Prime Minister Vittorio Orlando.
National Currency: Lira
National Day: Giorno della rivoluzione (Day of the revolution), March 14
Ethnic Groups: 45% Italian, 32% Spanish, 7% Greek, 12% Arab, 4% Balkan
Languages: Italian, Spanish, Arabic, Greek
Religons: State Religon is Roman Catholic
Pre ISOT Borders: Italy, Split, Albania, Greece, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Spain, Sardinia
Flag: Same as historical 1927 flag, but with Eagle in the middle
BTW, what should happen to the Italians inside Imajin's borders?

luakel

July 19th, 2005, 10:07 PM

How are Aussey's Mexico and NomadicSky's Texas going to end up?

Aussey

July 19th, 2005, 10:14 PM

How's this luakel?

luakel

July 19th, 2005, 10:17 PM

How's this luakel?
Cool. :)
But I meant, How are the Borders going to work out?

NomadicSky

July 19th, 2005, 11:14 PM

Official Name:Republic of Canada

Capital:Montreal 905,329

Population:10,411,245

Head of State:President

Head of Government:Prime Minister

History:-1837 Canada declares independence
1839 Canadian independence is recognized by the British empire by the terms of treaty of recognition Rupertsland is transferred to the Canadian government
Denmark annexes part of the Ellesmere and Axel Heiberg Islands
-1844 The Oregon territory is spit along the 49th parallel Canada by plebicide all Vancouver Island and the San Juan Islands become part of Canada
1844 During the Columbia war revolutions for self government breakout
in the Maritimes Canada quickly backs these rebellions and grabs the Maritimes Prince Edward Island is renamed Abegweit Island
1860 an internal border dispute between Newfoundland and Quebec over
Labrador breaksout Canada creates the current borders
-1867 Alaska is bought by Canada

-1914 Canada declares neutrality during WW1

-1917 Canada purchases Greenland and the Danish Virgin Islands from Denmark
National currencies:Canadian Dollar

National Day and other important days:Declaration day December 13

System of Government: -Canada is a Parliamentary republic with a bicameral legislature
the two houses of Canadian parliament are The Congress of Representatives the upper house and the Senate the lower house

Ethnic groups: 82%White, 7%Black, 7% Native,4%Asian

Languages: English and French both official

Religions: 48% Protestant 47% Catholic 3% Jewish 2% Other

reformer

July 19th, 2005, 11:26 PM

The Unified Liberal Kingdom of Flanders

Capital: Brussels

Currency: The 'Dutch' Franc, wich is the same as the French except with different symbols.

Form of government
Constitutional Dictatorship, where both the King (dictator) and the Prime Minister, his reppresentative in the Senate, are exstremely powerful. They are satelites of France (not ISOTed) and relly on them economically.

History
The French win the Franco-Prussian War, and in doing so exspand their influence into Germany. In 1884, they once again fight a confederation of German states. Germany, less unified and thus weaker looses again, and France redraws the map of Germany to stop Prussian power.

Radical Imperial secularism becomes more powerful a movement, and religion and ethinic differences begin to matter less in parts of Europe.

After a small uprising in '89, the French once again invade, and the British intervene fearing the ballance of power. The French defeat the British at land, and in doing so garuntee their suppremacy in Europe. They recieve a heroes welcome in many parts of the world.

There is a small but growing liberal Dutch reunification movement centered in Flanders. Napolean IV encourages the movement, and the name chosen is Flanders because it is less contriversial than Belgium or the Netherlands.

As a French satelite, Flanders has become more somewhat influential, and there are Flemish governors in Madagascar, parts of French North Africa (parts of the costal regions) and a united Guiana. I'd like these areas to be ISOTed.

Flag
Same as OTL Flanders flag, shown, but instead of a yellow background, the bottom of the background is the OTL Belgian flag, and the top of the background is the OTL Dutch flag. Could someone please make this?

reformer

July 19th, 2005, 11:28 PM

Argh. . . atachment not working. . . oh well, here's the link to the Flemish flag:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vlagvlaanderengroot.png

Aussey

July 19th, 2005, 11:38 PM

Like this?

NomadicSky

July 19th, 2005, 11:47 PM

I'll finish this later I just want to post my claim
I'll work out the details later
The Empire of Germany
This from a Europe where the German and British empires fought together against France and Russia during the great war.
the alliance is
Germany, United Kingdom, Italy, Serbia, Greece
-VS-
Austria-Hungaryⁿ, Russia, France, Luxembourg, Bulgaria
ⁿearly in the war Hungary breaks away from Austria and joins the war on the AngloPrussian side a treaty allows Hungary to keep it's territory Count Tisza takes over Hungarys government and crowns himself king
Germany gains Iceland from Demark in 1918
Germany forces Denmark to trade Iceland for Danish North Schleswig

Later the Ottoman Empire sides with the AngloPrussian alliance during the war Russia during the war before being driven out by the allies creates an Armenian kingdom which becomes a republic that successfully
fights of the Ottomans the borders between the Ottoman empire and Armenia are signed in 1917

However the Ottoman Empire still breaks apart during the 20th century
the Arabia region breaks free of Turkish controll and takes over much of Ottoman territory
tenmillion Jews settle in palestine and fight of the Arabs and Ottomans to establish Israel

reformer

July 19th, 2005, 11:50 PM

Wow. . . that looks amazingly cool. . . thanks.

Aussey

July 19th, 2005, 11:56 PM

the flag? i messed up the blue...but yes, the map is!

reformer

July 20th, 2005, 12:00 AM

Well, if you wanna fix the blue, sure, thanks, but I still think the flag looks cool. Like the contrast. I like my design, and thanks for making it.

Weird map though. . . facinating. . . though I'm curuious as to how Hungry was able to just break off.

luakel

July 20th, 2005, 12:17 AM

Imajin

July 20th, 2005, 02:30 AM

Official Name: Most Serene Republic of Genoa
Capital: Genoa
Population: 1,000,000
Head of State: Doge Claudio di Meliachi
History: After the Congress of Vienna, the Republic of Genoa was confirmed in it's recreation, and to punish France, was given the island of Genoa. Italian Reunification never happens, and Italy remains divided into several states, and in 1848, Sardinia-Piedmont collapses in Liberal Revolution, while Genoa remains strong. Sardinia-Piedmont eventually is annexed by France.
A Great War breaks out in 1900 when Austria, Germany, and Bulgaria go to war against Russia, France, and several slavic principalities. The war ends with Bulgaria expanding across all non-Austrian Yugoslavia, Macedonia, etc., and puppet states being created across Eastern Europe, subservient to the Germanic Alliance.
National currencies: Pan-Italian Lira
National Day and other important days: January 3, 1814 - Independence Confirmed
System of Government: Aristocractic Republic
Ethnic groups: 60% Italian, 30% Corsican, 1% Arab, 9% Other
Languages: Italian, Genoese, Corsican
Religions: 98% Roman Catholic, 2% Other
Flag: Cross of St. George

Imajin

July 20th, 2005, 02:39 AM

Official Name: Territory of Pacifica, United States of America
Capital: Washington, DC (Territorial Capital: New Boston on Guam)
Population: Unknown
Head of State: President Calvin Coolidge
History: The United States became far more interested in the Pacific far earlier. When nations like France and Britain went out to try to expand their Empires to the limit and take the peaceful islands, they found U.S. Trading Forts. The territories were formally organized into Pacifica in 1914, which also happened to be the outbreak of World War One.
The Central Powers won World War One, though the United States stayed out. The Pacific Islands have been, well, Pacific since then.
National currencies: United States Dollar
National Day and other important days: Independence Day, July 4
System of Government: Federal Bicameral Republic. Territorial Government is unicameral.
Ethnic groups: 20% American, 70% Pacific Islander, 10% Other
Languages: English primarily used, native languages
Religions: 89% Christian, 8% Native Beliefs, 3% Other
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-1912.gif

luakel

July 20th, 2005, 03:02 AM

Imajin

July 20th, 2005, 03:07 AM

Federation of the West Indies
Capital: Georgetown, Miskitia
Languages: English, Spanish
Head of State: King Jeremy II of the Miskitos and the West Indies
History: Britain lost the Napoleonic Wars. Badly. The Great Kingdom was smashed, as a series of massive strategic blunders and screwups lost the British Empire first Ireland, then much of Canada, then it's footholds in Europe, then Rupert's Land, and culminating in an invasion of the Isle itself, resulting in the Treaty of Wessex. The terms of which were incredibly harsh: The East India Company was to be turned over completely to a new French East India Company, a loss of Canada. It left Britain with simply the Island of Great Britain, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Newfoundland (all three to be demilitarized except for defense), the Carribean, and a few other paltry possessions.
And so, Britain focused it's imperialism in the Carribean, in the weak United Provinces of Central America to be precise. Costa Rica declared independence, and Britain moved to back it up. The Central American War lasted but a year, and was awful for the UPCA, which lost all of it's Carribean Coast to the Kingdom of Miskitia, the Crown-Colony of British Honduras, and a newly-created Crown-Colony of the Mosquito Coast. The UPCA went on to lose more wars against the Empire of Mexico.
In 1900, the Carribean possesions were federalized, with King Jeremy II of Miskitia being made King of all the islands and lands, though he only exercises real power in Miskitia. Troops from the West Indies aided Britain in the World War.

Aussey

July 20th, 2005, 03:09 AM

Official Name: United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
Capital:London
Population:~30,000,000
Head of State: King-Emperor Alexander II
History: King William IV died at the age of seventy-two on 20 June 1837, leaving the throne to Charlotte.. By Salic law, no woman could rule Hanover, a realm which had shared a monarch with Britain since 1714. Hanover went not to Charlotte, but to her uncle, the Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale, who became King Ernest Augustus of Hanover.
When Charlotte ascended the throne, the government was controlled by the Whig Party, which had been in power, except for brief intervals, since 1830. The Whig Prime Minister, Lord Melbourne, at once became a powerful influence in the life of the politically inexperienced Queen, who relied on him for advice. (Some even referred to Charlotte as "Mrs Melbourne".) The Melbourne ministry would not stay in power for long; it was growing unpopular and, moreover, faced considerable difficulty in governing the British colonies. In Canada, the United Kingdom faced an insurrection (see Rebellions of 1837), and in Jamaica, the colonial legislature had protested British policies by refusing to pass any laws. In 1839, unable to cope with the problems overseas, the ministry of Lord Melbourne resigned.
The Queen commissioned Sir Robert Peel, a Tory, to form a new ministry, but was faced with a debacle known as the Bedchamber Crisis. At the time, it was customary for appointments to the Royal Household to be based on the patronage system (that is, for the Prime Minister to appoint members of the Royal Household on the basis of their party loyalties). Many of the Queen's Ladies of the Bedchamber were wives of Whigs, but Sir Robert Peel expected to replace them with wives of Tories. Charlotte strongly objected to the removal of these ladies, whom she regarded as close friends rather than as members of a ceremonial institution. Sir Robert Peel felt that he could not govern under the restrictions imposed by the Queen, and consequently resigned his commission, allowing Melbourne to return to office.

The Queen had been married to King Leopold of the Belgians for seven years. Charlotte granted her husband the style His Royal Highness. Prince Albert was commonly known as the "Prince Consort", though he did not formally obtain the title until 1857. Prince Albert was never granted a peerage dignity.

On 13 June 1842,Charlotte made her first journey by train, travelling from Slough railway station (near Windsor Castle) to Bishop's Bridge, near Paddington (in London), in a special royal carriage provided by the Great Western Railway. Accompanying her were her husband and the engineer of the Great Western line, Isambard Kingdom Brunel.
Three attempts to assassinate the Queen occurred in 1842. On 29 May at St. James's Park, John Francis (most likely seeking to gain notoriety) fired a pistol at the Queen (then in a carriage), but was immediately seized by PC53 William Trounce. He was convicted of high treason, but his death sentence was commuted to transportation for life. Prince Leopold felt that the attempts were encouraged by Oxford's acquittal in 1840. On 3 July, just days after Francis' sentence was commuted, another boy, John William Bean, attempted to shoot the Queen. Although his gun was loaded only with paper and tobacco, his crime was still punishable by death. Feeling that such a penalty would be too harsh, Prince Leopold encouraged Parliament to pass an act, under which aiming a firearm at the Queen, striking her, throwing any object at her, and producing any firearm or other dangerous weapon in her presence with the intent of alarming her, were made punishable by seven years imprisonment and flogging. Bean was thus sentenced to eighteen months imprisonment; neither he, nor any person who violated the act in the future, was flogged.

Peel's ministry faced a crisis involving the repeal of the Corn Laws. Many Tories (by then known also as Conservatives) were opposed to the repeal, but some Tories (the "Peelites") and most Whigs supported it. Peel resigned in 1846, after the repeal narrowly passed, and was replaced by Lord John Russell. Russell's ministry, though Whig, was not favoured by the Queen. Particularly offensive to Victoria was the Foreign Secretary, Lord Palmerston, who often acted without consulting the Cabinet, the Prime Minister, or the Queen. In 1849, Victoria lodged a complaint with Lord John Russell, claiming that Palmerston had sent official dispatches to foreign leaders without her knowledge. She repeated her remonstrance in 1850, but to no avail. It was only in 1851 that Lord Palmerston was removed from office; he had on that occasion announced the British government's approval for President Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte's coup in France without previously consulting the Prime Minister.
The period during which Russell was prime minister also proved personally distressing to Queen Charlotte. In 1849, an unemployed and disgruntled Irishman named William Hamilton attempted to alarm the Queen by discharging a powder-filled pistol in her presence. Hamilton was charged under the 1842 act; he pled guilty and received the maximum sentence of seven years of penal transportation. In 1850, the Queen did sustain injury when she was assaulted by a possibly insane ex-Army officer, Robert Pate. As Charlotte was riding in a carriage, Pate struck her with his cane, crushing her bonnet and bruising her. Pate was later tried; he failed to prove his insanity, and received the same sentence as Hamilton.

Ireland
The Queen Charlotte fell in love with Ireland, choosing to holiday in Killarney in Kerry, in the process, launching the location as one of the nineteenth century's prime tourist locations. Her love of the island was matched by an initial Irish warmth for the young queen. In 1845, Ireland was hit by a potato blight that over four years cost the lives of over half a million Irish people and saw the emigration of another million. In response to what came to be called the Irish Potato Famine (An Gorta Mor) the queen personally donated £5000 and was involved in various famine charities. Nevertheless the fact that the policies of the ministry of Lord John Russell were widely blamed for exacerbating the severity of the famine impacted on the Queen's popularity. To extreme republicans Victoria came to be called the "Famine Queen", with mythical stories of her donating as little as £5 to famine relief becoming accepted in republican lore.
Victoria's first official visit to Ireland, in 1849, was specifically arranged by Lord Clarendon, the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, the head of the British administration, to try both to draw attention off the famine and also to alert British politicians through the Queen's presence to the seriousness of the crisis in Ireland. Notwithstanding the negative impact of the famine on the Queen's popularity, she still remained sufficiently popular for nationalists at party meetings to finish by singing God Save the Queen.
Charlotte refused repeated pressure from a number of prime ministers, lords lieutenant and even members of the Royal Family, to establish a royal residence in Ireland. Writing in his memoirs, Ireland: Dupe or Heroine? in 1930, Lord Midleton, the former head of the Irish unionist party, described this decision as having proved disastrous to the monarchy and British rule in Ireland.
Charlotte paid her last visit to Ireland in 1900, when she came to appeal to Irishmen to join the British Army and fight in the Boer War. Nationalist opposition to her visit was spearheaded by Arthur Griffith, who established an organisation called Cumann na nGaedheal to unite the opposition. Five years later Griffith used the contacts established in his campaign against the queen's visit to form a new political movement, Sinn Fein.

Middle years
Lord John Russell's ministry collapsed in 1852, when the Whig Prime Minister was replaced by a Conservative, Lord Derby. Lord Derby did not stay in power for long, for he failed to maintain a majority in Parliament; he resigned less than a year after entering office. At this point, Victoria was anxious to put an end to this period of weak ministries. Both the Queen and her husband vigorously encouraged the formation of a strong coalition between the Whigs and the Peelite Tories. Such a ministry was indeed formed, with the Peelite Lord Aberdeen at its head.
One of the most significant acts of the new ministry was to bring the United Kingdom into the Crimean War in 1854, on the side of the Ottoman Empire and against Russia. Immediately before the entry of the United Kingdom, rumours that the Queen and Prince Leopold preferred the Ottomans, to the delight of their subjects. Charlotte publicly encouraged unequivocal support for the troops. After the conclusion of the war, she instituted the Charlotte & Leopold, an award for valour.
His management of the war in the Crimea questioned by many, Lord Aberdeen resigned in 1855, to be replaced by Lord Palmerston, with whom the Queen had reconciled. Palmerston too was forced out of office due to the unpopular conduct of a military conflict, the Second Opium War, in 1857. He was replaced by Lord Derby. Amongst the notable events of Derby's administration was the Sepoy Mutiny against the rule of the British East India Company over India. After the mutiny was crushed, India was put under the direct rule of the Crown (though the title "Empress of India" was not instituted immediately). Derby's second ministry fared no better than his first; it fell in 1859, allowing Palmerston to return to power.
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Widowhood
The Prince Consort died in 1865, devastating Charlotte, who entered a semi-permanent state of mourning and wore black for the the next 20 years. She avoided public appearances and rarely set foot inside London in the following years, her seclusion earning her the nickname "Widow of Windsor." She regarded her son, the Prince of Wales, as the Prince-Regent, whom she advised on ruling the countries for the next few years.
Charlotte’s isolation from the public greatly diminished the popularity of the monarchy, and even encouraged the growth of the republican movement. Although she did perform her official duties, she did not actively participate in the government, remaining secluded in her royal residences, Balmoral in Scotland or her residence at Osborne in the Isle of Wight. Meanwhile, one of the most important pieces of legislation of the nineteenth century — the Reform Act 1867 — was passed by Parliament. Lord Palmerston was vigorously opposed to electoral reform, but his ministry ended upon his death in 1865. He was followed by Lord Russell (the former Lord John Russell), and afterwards by Lord Derby, during whose ministry the Reform Act was passed.

In 1868, a man who would prove to be Charlotte’s favourite Prime Minister, the Conservative Benjamin Disraeli, entered office. His ministry, however, soon collapsed, and he was replaced by William Ewart Gladstone, a member of the Liberal Party (as the Whig-Peelite Coalition had become known). Gladstone was famously at odds with both Charlotte and Disraeli during his political career. She once remarked that she felt he addressed her as though she were a public meeting. The Queen disliked Gladstone, as well as his policies, as much as she admired Disraeli. It was during Gladstone's ministry, in the early 1870s, that the Queen began to gradually emerge from a state of perpetual mourning and isolation. With the encouragement of her family, she became more active.
In 1872, Charlotte endured her sixth encounter involving a gun. As she was dismounting a carriage, a seventeen-year old Irishman, Arthur O'Connor, rushed towards her with a pistol in one hand and a petition to free Irish prisoners in the other. The gun was not loaded; the youth's aim was most likely to alarm Charlotte into accepting the petition. John Brown, who was at the Queen's side, knocked the boy to the ground before Charlotte could even view the pistol; he was rewarded with a gold medal for his bravery. O'Connor was sentenced to penal transportation and to corporal punishment, as allowed by the Act of 1842, but Victoria remitted the latter part of the sentence.

Disraeli returned to power in 1874, at which time an imperialist sentiment was espoused by many in the country, including the new Prime Minister and the Queen, as well as many in Europe. In 1876, encouraged by Disraeli, the Queen assumed the title "Empress of India", which was officially recognised under the Royal Titles Act 1876. Victoria rewarded her Prime Minister by creating him Earl of Beaconsfield.
Lord Beaconsfield's administration fell in 1880 when the Liberals won the general election of that year. Gladstone had relinquished the leadership of the Liberals four years earlier and the Queen invited Lord Hartington, Liberal leader in the Commons, to form a ministry. However Lord Hartington declined the opportunity, arguing that no Liberal ministry could work without Gladstone and he would serve under no-one else, and Charlotte could do little but appoint Gladstone Prime Minister.
The last of the series of attempts on Charlotte’s life came in 1882. A Scottish madman, Roderick Maclean, fired a bullet towards the Queen, then seated in her carriage, but missed. Since 1842, each individual who attempted to attack the Queen had been tried for a misdemeanour (punishable by seven years of penal servitude), but Maclean was tried for high treason (punishable by death). He was acquitted, having been found insane, and was committed to an asylum. Charlotte expressed great annoyance at the verdict of "not guilty, but insane," and encouraged the introduction of the verdict of "guilty, but insane" in the following year.
Charlotte’s conflicts with Gladstone continued during her later years. She was forced to accept his proposed electoral reforms, including the Representation of the People Act 1884, which considerably increased the electorate. Gladstone's government fell in 1885, to be replaced by the ministry of a Conservative, Lord Salisbury. Gladstone returned to power in 1886, and he introduced the Irish Home Rule Bill, which sought to grant Ireland a separate legislature. Victoria was opposed to the bill, which she believed would undermine the British Empire. When the bill was rejected by the House of Commons, Gladstone resigned, allowing Charlotte to appoint Lord Salisbury to resume
In 1887, the United Kingdom celebrated Charlotte’s Golden Jubilee. Charlotte marked 20 June 1887 — the fiftieth anniversary of her accession — with a banquet, to which fifty European kings and princes were invited. On the next day, she participated in a procession that, in the words of Mark Twain, "stretched to the limit of sight in both directions." At the time, Charlotte was an extremely popular monarch. The scandal of a rumoured relationship with her servant had been quieted following John Brown's death in 1883, allowing the Queen to be perceived as a symbol of morality.
Victoria was required to tolerate a ministry of William Ewart Gladstone one more time, in 1892. After the last of his Irish Home Rule Bills was defeated, he retired in 1894, to be replaced by the Imperialist Liberal Lord Rosebery. Lord Rosebery was succeeded in 1895 by Lord Salisbury, who served for the remainder of Charlotte’s reign.
On 22 September 1896, Charlotte surpassed George III as the longest-reigning monarch in English, Scottish, or British history. In accordance with the Queen's request, all special public celebrations of the event were delayed until 1897, the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. The Colonial Secretary, Joseph Chamberlain, proposed that the Jubilee be made a festival of the British Empire. Thus, the Prime Ministers of all the self-governing colonies were invited along with their families. The procession in which the Queen participated included troops from each British colony and dependency, together with soldiers sent by Indian Princes and Chiefs (who were subordinate to Charlotte, the Empress of India). The Diamond Jubilee celebration was an occasion marked by great outpourings of affection for the septuagenarian Queen, who was by then confined to a wheelchair.
During Charlotte’s last years, the United Kingdom was involved in the Boer War, which received the enthusiastic support of the Queen. Charlotte’s personal life was marked by many personal tragedies, including, the fatal illness of her daughter, the Empress of Germany, and the death of two of her grandsons. Her last ceremonial public function came in 1899, when she laid the foundation stone for new buildings of the South Kensington Museum, which became known as the Victoria and Albert Museum.
Following a custom she maintained throughout her widowhood, Charlotte spent Christmas in Osborne House (which her cousin Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha had designed himself) on the Isle of Wight. She died there on 22 January 1901, having reigned for sixty-three years, seven months, and two days, more than any British monarch before or since. Her funeral occurred on 2 February; after two days of lying-in-state, she was interred in the Frogmore Mausoleum beside her husband.
Victoria was succeeded by her eldest son, the Prince of Wales, who reigned as King Alexander I. Charlotte’s death brought an end to the rule of the House of Hanover in the United Kingdom; King Alexander I, like his father Prince Leopold, belonged to the House of
Charlotte’s monarchy became more religious than political, with a strong emphasis on morality and family values, in contrast to the sexual, financial and personal scandals that had been associated with previous members of the House of Hanover and which had discredited the monarchy. Charlotte’s reign created for Britain the concept of the 'family monarchy' with which the burgeoning middle classes could identify. It also placed more Church (Anglican) power back into the Supreme Governor.
Internationally Charlotte was a major figure, not just in image or in terms of Britain's influence through the empire, but also because of family links throughout Europe's royal families, earning her the affectionate nickname "the grandmother of Europe". An example of that status can be seen in the fact that three of the main monarchs with countries involved in the First World War on opposite sides were themselves either grandchildren of Charlotte’s or married to a grandchild of hers. Eight of Victoria's nine children married members of European royal families, and the other, Princess Elisabeth, married a Scottish Duke.
As of 2004, the European monarchs and former monarchs descended from Charlotte are: the Queen of the United Kingdom, the King of Sweden-Norway, the Queen of Denmark, the Queen of Spain, the King of the Hellenes, the King of Romania, the Emperor of Germany, and the King of the Belgians,
Queen Charlotte experienced unpopularity during the first years of her widowhood, but afterwards became extremely well-liked during the 1880s and 1890s. In 2002, the British Broadcasting Corporation conducted a poll regarding the 100 Greatest Britons; Charlotte attained the fourthh place.

Innovations of the Charlician era include postage stamps, the first of which—the Penny Black (issued 1840)—featured an image of the Queen, and the railway, which Charlotte was the first British Sovereign to ride.
Several places in the World have been named after Charlotte, including two Australian States (Charlotte and Queensland), the capitals of British Columbia and Saskatchewan, Canada, the capital of the Seychelles, Africa's largest lake, and the World's largest waterfalls.
Queen Charlotte remains the most commemorated British monarch in history, with statues to her erected throughout the British Empire. The most prominent statue is the Charlotte Monument outside Buckingham Palace, which was erected as part of the remodelling of the façade of the Palace a decade after her death.
A much more controversial statue to Queen Charlotte sculpted by Irishman John Hughes was erected on the Kildare Street front of Leinster House in Dublin, the then headquarters of the Royal Dublin Society. It was unveiled by King Alexander I. In 1924, two years after renting the property for parliamentary purposes, the building was bought and turned into the official seat of Oireachtas Eireann, the parliament of the Irish Free State (British monarchs). After years of criticism of having a statue of Victoria, known disparangly by Irish republicans as the "famine queen", outside Ireland's parliament, the statue was removed in 1947. After years in storage the statue was given by the Irish Free State (Republican) to Australia and unveiled on 20 December 1987 to stand outside the Queen Victoria Building in the centre of Sydney.

Charlotte’s first official style as monarch was "Charlotte, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and the Belgians, Queen. Defender of the Faith". The phrase "Empress of India" was added in 1876.
Victoria's arms were: Quarterly, I and IV Gules three lions passant guardant in pale Or (for England); II Or a lion rampant within a double tressure flory-counter-flory Gules (for Scotland); III Azure a harp Or stringed Argent (for Ireland). The Belgian Arms were placed in the center. These stay the arms for British monarchs to this day.

In 1900, Queen-Empress Charlotte died, and was succeeded by her son, Prince Alexander of Wales.
National currencies: Pound Sterling
National Day and other important days: January 7 (Charlotte Day), May 24 (Empire Day), September 18(King's birthday)
System of Government: Parliamentary Imperial Monarchy
Ethnic groups:Angles, Gaelic, Welsh, Irish, etc.
Languages: English (official)
Religions: Anglican (established) 85%, Roman Catholic 10%, Protestant 4%, Other 1%.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Uk_flag_large.png

Imajin

July 20th, 2005, 03:12 AM

I thought they would be Genoan Colonies. :confused:
That's Corsica... :p

luakel

July 20th, 2005, 03:14 AM

That's Corsica... :p
So your not taking Genoa? :)

Aussey

July 20th, 2005, 03:16 AM

So your not taking Genoa? :)

No, he's taking Genoa, with a colony at Corisca

Forum Lurker

July 20th, 2005, 03:33 AM

Official Name: Democratic Republic of Russia
Capital: Moscow
Population: 190 million
Head of State: Prime Minister Aleksandr Kerensky
History: In May of 1917, the Minister of War in the Provisional Government, Alexander Kerensky, withdrew Russia's armed forces from the front with Germany, seeing that the populace refused to support further loss of life. This move is seen as the single factor most crucial in robbing support from the radical Bolsheviks, and securing the position of the Socialist-Revolutionary Party.
National currencies: Ruble
National Day and other important days: March 15 is Revolution Day, commemorating the abdication of Tsar Nicholas II.
System of Government: Nominally, a parliamentary democracy; in practice, the prime minister wields power much greater than that which statute prescribes.
Ethnic groups: Russians 79.8%, Tatars 3.84%, Ukrainians 2.04%, Bashkir 1.16%, Chuvash 1.13%, Chechens 0.9%, Armenians 0.79%, other 10.34%
Languages: Russian (official),
Religions: Russian Orthodox, Muslim, Jewish; while unofficially discouraged, religious observation is technically legal.

NomadicSky

July 20th, 2005, 05:17 AM

This is the 1927 map
The Ottoman Empire is still intact, Iceland is part of Germany
Cyprus was returned to the Ottoman Empire in 1919
So here is Germany 1927 pre Isot

NomadicSky

July 20th, 2005, 05:29 AM

Here is the German Flag

Wendell

July 20th, 2005, 07:17 AM

this lok interesting....

DuQuense

July 20th, 2005, 10:33 AM

Official Name:
United Cuban Provinces/ Island of Cuba

Capital: (name and population)
Havana ~400.000

Population:
-3.5 million

National Day and other important days:

Head of State:
President Carlos Manuel de Cespedes y Quesada,
the son of the leading revolutionary during the Ten Years War,
president of the Senate
Carlos Mendieta, a veteran of the War of Independence,
Speaker of the House
Gerardo Machado y Morales

System of Government:
Bicameral Republic, with Universal Suffrage
realpoltik, Most Lower classes, Blacks, Women, Mullatos excluded

National currencies:
Cuban dollar , American Dollar, Exchange 1/1

Ethnic groups:
75% white {includes may Mulatto who identified themselves as White}, 23 % Black, 2% Arabic, 1% Asian.

Languages:
Spanish, with about 33% Bilingual in English.

Religions:
75 % Catholic, 22 % protestant , I% Mormon, 1% Muslim, 1% other,

History:

The following is from a Doctoral Candidate defending his Paper on the American Control of Cuba. The References are too his Source Documents.

One of the early acts of General Wood was to decree a law of elections, promulgated in April 1900. Several political parties had already been formed, but up to this time they had had no real life…Now, however, the parties attained to a new-born vigor, and in casting about for an issue hit upon the duration and character of the American occupation" (page 129). "General Wood had called an informal meeting of notables, prior to the enactment of his election law…The majority favored a most sweepingly democratic law as regards grant of the suffrage, but the governor adopted the opinions of the minority, which accorded with his own. It was provided that all native-born Cuban men who were at least twenty-one years old might vote, if they could read and write, or had $250 worth of property, or had served in the Cuban army during the war. The secret ballot and other familiar American features were also called for in the new law" (page 130).
Hitchman 1971: "Wood selected the commission's minority plan, which with its greater detail and broader specifications carried the marks of the American lawyers. [The plan] became Civil Order 164 of April 18, 1900" (page 76). Describes the procedures it specifies (pages 76-77). Describes the results of the census (page 79).
Pérez 1983: "In early spring the military government announced the suffrage requirement…Protest was immediate" (page 310). Describes the suffrage requirements. "By early spring, the military government had completed the work of the census" (page 311). Gives the results.
Pérez 1986: "In early 1900 the United States undertook a census of the island before fixing final suffrage requirements for municipal elections scheduled for June. The decision to restrict suffrage had already been made in Washington" (page 37). Describes the suffrage requirements (page 38).
Pérez 1995: "All voters were required to be Cuban males over the age of twenty and in possession of one of the following: real or personal property worth $250, or an ability to read and write, or honorable service in the Liberation Army. All Cuban women and two-thirds of all adult Cuban men were excluded from the franchise. Suffrage restrictions reduced the Cuban electorate to 105,000 males, approximately 5 percent of the total population" (page 182).

Thomas 1998: "The electorate of 1900 was based on male literacy. Of the total number of males of voting age (418,000), or 26% of the population, of these 200,631 or a little less than half were able to read, of whom just under 70% were white and just over 30% coloured. Of the Negroes of voting age (237,398), 96,463 could not vote since they could not read ...The total Negroes who could vote in 1899-1900 amounted to only about 31,000" (page 461).

Domínguez 1978: "The United States government's intervention in the internal affairs of the republic [through the Platt Amendment] prevented the early consolidation of a strong and capable central government in Cuba and fostered the rise and entrenchment of opposition groups by increasing political uncertainty" (page 13).
Pérez 1993: "The Platt Amendment denied the new republic treaty-making authority, established limits on the national debt and sanctioned North American intervention" (page 57).
June
Hernández, José M. 1993: "In late June 1901, some time after the final vote on the amendment by the convention, [Máximo] Gómez announced that he would not run for the presidency himself but that he would support the election of Estrada Palma" (page 98).

Aguilar 1993: "Once the constitution was promulgated it was necessary to proceed with presidential elections. When Máximo Gómez, the revered leader of Independence, refused the nomination, two other candidates emerged: General Bartolomé Masó, a prestigious military leader of limited talent, and Tomás Estrada Palma, who had been president of the 'Republic in arms' in the Ten Years' War, and had replaced Martí as the head of the Cuban Revolutionary Junta in exile" (page 39). "When Wood appointed five supporters of Estrada Palma to the electoral commission, General Masó withdrew from the race in protest" (page 40).
August 1999: "Initially there were three candidates, representing three parties: Máximo Gómez, carrying popular prestige as a result of the war against Spain; Bartolomé Masó, second in prestige whose eminence had also been further built up as a result of his stands against U.S. interventionist policy and the Platt Amendment; and lastly, Tomás Estrada Palma, the former head of the PRC until he liquidated it after the U.S. intervention in the 1898 war" (page 105).
Azicri 1988: Estrada Palma "had been chairman of the Cuban Revolutionary Party in New York City. He had not lived in Cuba for years...The people's choice, however, was General Bartolomé Masó, a hero of the revolution since the Ten Year War. The American government's opposition to his candidacy..., as well as that of the Cuban propertied and wealthy classes, forced him to withdraw from the race" (page 19).

December 20-21
Hernández, José M. 1993: "(A)s the day of the election...drew nearer, the Masoístas began to realize that the followers of Estrada Palma had the capability of padding their own vote while lowering that of their opponents. The possibility was real because the Masoísta alliance had not coalesced until relatively late in the electoral process, and for that reason its members were not represented in the Junta Central de Escrutinios or any of the other electoral institutions charged with preparing the voter lists, watching the polling places, counting the ballots, and generally monitoring election procedures. That the Masoístas had reason to worry was warranted by the known fact that the results of voter registration had been illegally altered in Las Villas. They therefore decided to appeal to Wood, requesting among other things that the Junta Central be reorganized so as to include at least one supporter of Masó., They got nowhere. Wood ..., in his effort to prevent [Masó's] election had even gone so far as to dismiss, early in the campaign, a number of mayors who backed his candidacy ...Charging that the United States intended to rig the vote, Masó refused to participate further in the campaign and formally withdrew his candidacy. He made the announcement on December 21, a week before the scheduled election"

POD
Masó. in stead of Withdrawing, Remains in the race, For the Last week General Wood's action is the main Focus of the Campaign. On election Day hundreds of his Supporters turn out and just stand in front of the Voting places watching. General Wood dispatches Marines to chase them away, but they just go to another Polling station. and there Are not enuff Marines to send to all the Polls.
When the result are announced, several days later it is so lop side that the fraud is oblivious even to most of Palma's Supporters. And even to the Marines that were sent out that day.

Palma is scheduled to be sworn in at the first of February, but as January proceeds, a low level rebellion is going on. On January 25th, Palma announces his Resignation, and leaves the Country Returning to New York. Where He will live out the rest of his life.

This throws the whole process into a spin, and General Woods has no Choice but to call a new Election.

On April 1st Masó. is elected President.

One of his fist actions as president is Calling for the Repeal of the Platt Amendment. The Second is Calling to Repeal the Reading and Male only, parts of the Suffrage Requirements. The Cuban Congress passes these Acts. But Woods as Military Governor Vetos them.
Instead of leaving in 1901, as IOTL, Wood hangs on for another two years. But by that time it is like trying to Command the Tide. and in 1903 Woods and the US formally leave. Except for a Dozen Military Bases that have been leased around the Island. the US also keeps procession of the Isle of Pines. [OTL renamed Isle of juveniles]

The next years are bumpy ones, as General Maso, attempts to build, the institutions that Cuba needs. This brings Him into conflict with the Americans, who are trying to ensure that Cuba is a Docile part of their sphere of Influence. With the Americans Renewing the Platt amendment and Cuba denying it.

In 1901 the American investment in Cuba was 200 Millions, Dispiste the Bumpiness by 1913 when General Maso steps down as president the American investment is close to 900 millions, mostly in the Sugar, tobacco, and Ranching Sectors. But unlike OTL General Maso has managed to atract a equal ammout of European investment 400 British, 200 French, 150 Spainish. Most of this is in the Business, and industrial areas. As Cuba becomes the Gateway to South America for European, Businesses.

In 1913 Mario García Menocal and Enrique José Varona were elected president and vice president, respectively, serving from 1913 to 1917. Conservatives they favored the Americans, and American/Cuban relations evened out, as America exerted it's control. [At least from the American View]
To guarantee himself a second term, Menocal rigged the 1916 elections. The Liberal/Nationalist protest was upheld by the Cuban Supreme Court, and the United States instructed Menocal to hold new elections in the disputed districts.
the Liberal/Nationalist ticket of Gomez and Zayas won .
The presidency of Gómez was marked by overall growth and modernization in Cuba. United States investment declined, but European capital poured into the island. Services were improved through the construction of railroads, port facilities, drainage projects, and the construction of public buildings. Gomez created rural schools, a national museum, and several academies of arts and letters and history , and he also sponsored some pro-labor legislation.

in 1925 Carlos Manuel de Cespedes y Quesada, Conservitive won the Presidency, and American influence is again on the Rise.

Lauranthalas

July 20th, 2005, 10:48 AM

OK here the history of USSP

1796 - rebellion in all the major prison cities
1797 - british send a task force down to stop rebellion
1797 - rebellion ended
1798 - GB sends more and more men down there
1799 - the first famine, the agricultural possibilities werent given for so many people
1801 - French Revolution makes Britain not help any of their colonies
1803 - Governors of Australia and New Zealand got famine situation under control without British help
1805 - Britain raises taxes on colonies
1810 - 2nd rebellion
1811 - end of second rebellion
1815 - Britain again sends more troops down
1816 - great famine
1823 - australian economy gets selfstanding
1831 - Australia and New Zealand stop listening to the crown
1842 - Britain sends troops down to force the Governors to abdicate
1842 - Australia nad New Zealand declare war on Great Britain
1843 - The British Asian fleet defects to Australia
1845 - Australia and New Zealand declare independence
1846 - War against Britain is over - Australia and New Zealand win
1846 - Papua new Guinea, Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Norfolk Islands and Chatham Islands are getting annexed after being occupied in the war
1848 - the commonwealth is renamed to the Union of the South Pacific
1850 - Navy was raised
1851 - begin of the Industrialization
1853 - Fiji, Tonga, and Samoa ask for being part of the Union
1854 - Fiji, Tonga and Samoa are accepted as part of the Union
1860 - Army is getting raised
1865 - Cook Islands are annexed
1875 - Tahiti is getting annexed
1879 - Palmyra Atoll and Nauru want to become part of teh Union
1880 - Palmyra Atoll and NAuru become part of the Union
1885 - Negotiations with the Chritsmas Islands, Gilbert Islands, and Marshall Island are made to become one country and call it the United States of the South Pacific
1887 - the Chritsmas Islands, Gilbert Islands, and Marshall Island agree and the USSP is born
1896 - war between Great Britain and France breaks out
1896 - Russia steps in on the Side of GB
1897 - Austria and the northern German States declare war on Russia and GB
1897 - Southern German states and Italy declare war on France, Austria and Northern german States
1897 - Iberia declares war on France
1898 - the Byzantime Empire declares war on Russia
1898 - the Northern AMerican Union declares war on Great Britain and allies
1898 - USSP declares war on GB
1899 - USSP's Navy breaks supply line from Asia to GB
1901 - GB surrenders
1901 - Iberia surrenders
1902 - Austria surrenders
1902 - Italy surrenders
1902 - France surrenders
1902 - USSP and NAU boycott Russia
1903 - most German states surrender
1903 - Prussia invades Scandinavia
1903 - Scandinavia surrenders
1903 - Prussia invades Russia from north and west; Byzantime Empire from the south
1904 - Russia invades China
1905 - Russia surrenders
1905 - USSP sees dire need for much greater fleet in case of anotehr great war
1906 - massive ship building begins
1907 - USSP buys blueprints of dreadnoughts
1908 - Dreadnoughts and submarines are massproduced
1912 - First USSP Dreadnought finished
1915 - bigger guns mounted on Dreads (3" more diameter)
1916 - First Destroyer launched from USSP
1918 - First Carrier laid down
1921 - First Carrier launched
1921 - Tensions with GB raise
1922 - 5 carriers launched
1923 - naval race begins
1923 - 4 acrriers launched
1924 - Neptune class battleships are laid down (similar to German navy's battlecruisers like Scharnhorst or Prinz Eugen)
1924 - 4 carriers launched
1925 - 4 carriers launched
1926 - First 3 Neptune class BB's lauched
1926 - 7 carriers launched
1927 - another 5 Neptune class BB's launched
1928 - 2 carriers launched

Mayhem

July 20th, 2005, 11:10 AM

Lauranthalas,
I strongly recommend you look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Australia_before_1901).
Scroll down to "Growth of Free Settlement"; there were no "major prison cities" in 1796, Melbourne wasn't even founded until 1835. With such an early POD the Australian situation would be entirely different.
Perhaps a better POD might be a successful Eureka stockade rebellion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Stockade), where miners lead a nationwide revolt on a line similar to the US' "no taxation without representation".
That should give you enough time to get to about the same end result, just perhaps a little quicker with the pacific conquests. :)
There really wasn't any industry in Oz before the 50s Gold rush, so... *shrug* 's up to you.

DuQuense

July 20th, 2005, 11:42 AM

Military

In 1914 with the outbreak of WW1 and the Invasion of France, Spain [in large part due to the Joint Ventures with France in Cuba] Joined the allies in DoW Germany. Despite the fact that Cuba was Independent, much popular support for Spain remained in the Country. in Early 1915 Cuba, Joined Spain in the War.

Most of the Spanish and Cuban Forces served along side the French, thru the Cuban Navy, Coordinated much more with the British. Also there were many Porto Ricans who Joined with the Cuban Forces, as Volunteers.

With the end of WW1 in 1917, Cuban Forces returned home to Hero's Welcomes, and a renew sense of national Pride, the Fact that the US remained neutral during the Conflict was not lost . In Porto Rico Many of the returnees, entered the National Guard, where Cuba not the US was their source of pride.**
The present Military consists of 60.000 Army, 105.000 Army Air Corp [Many Cubans served in the French, British, and Italian Air-corps, especially the richer Officers, they are pushing for this] and 155,000 Navy,, 1 heavy Cruiser, 5 lite cruisers, 50 Destroyers and lots of smaller patrol boats, Mostly US and British WW1 Surplus, [Except for the heavy, this is roughly OTL present day Cuban Forces]
There are also 42.000 US army, and 63.000 US Navy personnel scatted around the US Bases.

** This has lead to two Porto Rico Statehood parties. One that wants to be a US State, opposed to the Other Statehood Party [Small but Vocal], that wants to join Cuba.

Mayhem

July 20th, 2005, 12:20 PM

Official Name: The Empire of Great Japan
Capital: Tokyo
Population: ~70,000,000
Head of State: Emperor Kirihito
History:
In 1912, the Great Meiji Emperor died, followed swiftly and surprisingly by his young grandson Hirohito. The heir, Yoshihito, now crowned as the Taisho Emperor, was stricken with meningitis, and had little control over his government.
Upon the outbreak of WW1, the Japanese government declared war on Germany, seizing Berlin’s possessions in the Pacific and China by the end of 1915.
In a rare expression of his will, Taisho then decreed that the Japanese armies should be sent to Europe to aid their ally Britain.
The entry of Japan into the European war hastened Germany’s defeat, the latter surrendering by mid-1917.
Japanese forces assisted the suppression of Bolshevik revolutionary elements between 1917-1919, aiding in the establishment of the Republic of Russia.
By 1920, relations between Japan and Great Britain reached a high point when the British signed a naval treaty with Japan ensuring “mutual protection” of the empires of each.
In 1921, Kirihito was named regent, a position which he had technically occupied since he had suggested to his father’s advisors to seek stronger ties with Britain in 1915 by joining the European war.
In 1922, Yoshihito died, and Kirihito was quickly crowned.
In early 1923, despite Australian and American protests, Japan secured large economic and territorial possessions in Manchuria, practically making the latter a protectorate, in addition to Korea and Formosa.
1923; the Great Tokyo Earthquake. Many members of the Diet were killed in the quake and following firestorms, allowing Kirihito to appoint submissive replacements in their steads.
From 1924-25, heavy-handed measures were taken by the emperor to bring the military under his strict and direct control.
In late 1926, a Chinese communist attempt at revolution was crushed by the Chinese Nationalist government under Chiang Kai-Shek, with very substantial aid from the Japanese military, helping to foster good relations between the two governments.
National currencies: Japanese Yen
National Day and other important days: Foundation Day (?), Emperor's Birthday (?)
System of Government: Emperor heads a bi-cameral Diet with universal male suffrage for the lower house, a peerage system for the upper house.
Ethnic groups: Japanese, small foreign minorities
Languages: Japanese
Religions: Shinto, Buddhism, or a combination of the two. Small (<10%) Christian minority

Feel free to nitpick.
As for military, is a standing army of ~2million appropriate for Japan at this time? Roughly 200,000 in Manchuria and other colonies... I mean, protectorates.

Any ideas about other mlilitary branches, air, navy, etc?

Glen

July 20th, 2005, 12:28 PM

this lok interesting....

That's it, Wendell. Come on in, get sucked into the wonder of ME! Yess....excellent. ;)

DuQuense

July 20th, 2005, 01:09 PM

Official Name:
Republic of Panama

Capital: (name and population)

Panama City
Population:
3 million
Head of State:
Luis Alveraz
General Charles Martin, Commander Canal Zone.
History:
OTL Panama, 1903 TR intervenes in Colunbia/Panama dispute, 1904 Panama Army disbanded, 1914 canal opens. 1925 General Martin appointed Commander.
National currencies:
Panama Balboa, US Dollar.
National Day and other important days:

System of Government:
Bi Bicameral Legislature

Ethnic groups:
White 45% Black 30% native 25%
Languages:
Spanish, English

Religions:
Catholic 75%

Military:
10.000 American Troops, 6.000 Naval, mostly destroyers and Subs, except for the USS Texas and Arizona, Transiting the Canal on the Day of Isot.

DuQuense

July 20th, 2005, 03:11 PM

Official Name:

French CohinChina
Capital: (name and population)

Hanoi 500.000
Population:
45 millions

Head of State:
Alexandre Millerand (February 10, 1859) He was Prime Minister of France January 20 to September 23, 1920 President of France from September 23, 1920 to June 11, 1924 . In 1925 He was Appointed Governor General of French CohinChina.

System of Government:
Bureaucracy run by French appointees.
Ethnic groups:
French ~ 12% Vietnamese 50%, Laos 10%, Cambodian 28%
National currencies:
French Franc
Languages:
French, Vietnamese, Laos, Cambodian
Literacy:
40~45% French, 1~2 % other.
almost all schools are run by French Missionaries.
Religions:
Buddhist 60%, Catholic 38% Mormon 2%

History:

By the turn of the century, a whole generation of Vietnamese had grown up under French control. The people continued, as in precolonial times, to look to the scholar-gentry class for guidance in dealing with French imperialism and the loss of their country's independence. A few scholar-officials collaborated with the French, but most did not. Among those who refused was a group of several hundred scholars who became actively involved in the anticolonial movement. The best known among them was Phan Boi Chau, a scholar from Nghe An Province, trained in the Confucian tradition under his father and other local teachers. In 1885 Phan Boi Chau observed at close range the actions of French troops in crushing scholar-gentry resistance to the colonial overlords. For the next decade he devoted himself to his studies and finally passed the regional examination with highest honors in 1905. During the following five years, he traveled about the country making contacts with other anticolonial scholars and seeking out in particular the survivors of the Can Vuong movement, with whom he hoped to launch a rebellion against the French. He also sought to identify a member of the Nguyen ruling family sympathetic to the cause, who would serve as titular head of the independence movement and as a rallying point for both moral and financial support. Chosen to fill this role was Cuong De, a direct descendant of Gia Long.
In 1904 Phan Boi Chau and about twenty others met in Quang Nam to form the Duy Tan Hoi (Reformation Society), the first of a number of revolutionary societies he organized. The following year, he went to Japan to meet with Japanese and Chinese revolutionaries and seek financial support for the Vietnamese cause. The Japanese defeat of the Russian fleet at Tsushima the month before his arrival had caused great excitement among the various Asian anticolonialist movements. Phan Boi Chau brought Cuong De, along with several Vietnamese students, to Japan in 1906. That same year he convinced the other great Vietnamese nationalist leader of the period, Phan Chu Trinh, to visit him in Tokyo. After two weeks of discussions, however, they were unable to resolve their basic tactical differences. Whereas Phan Boi Chau favored retaining the monarchy as a popular ideological symbol and a means of attracting financial support, Phan Chu Trinh wanted primarily to abolish the monarchy in order to create a base on which to build national sovereignty. Furthermore, he was greatly influenced by the writings of French political philosophers Rousseau and Montesquieu, and he believed that the French colonial administration could serve as a progressive force to establish a Western democratic political structure through peaceful reform. Phan Boi Chau, conversely, wanted to drive out the French immediately through armed resistance and restore Vietnamese independence.

POD
Under pressure from the French Japanese police raid the Meeting between Phan Boi Chau, Cuong De, and Phan Chu Trinh, Arresting the Three and turning them over to the French Authorities. { Think of this as a Meeting [1771]Between Jefferson with one of the Stuarts. meeting with Adams in Madrid, being arrested and turned over to the British.}

Following this most active resistance to continued French Rule, dries up, thru the Idea remains.

National Day and other important days:
July 14th Bastille Day.

Military:

In 1914 with the Start of WW1 Italy Declared Neutrality. With no Italy to worry about Austria had more troops to Use on the Russian Front. As such Germany didn't have to send troops to help. This gave it more troops to use in France.

To Counter this France pulled much more heavily on it's over Seas Territories, recruiting 192.000 CohinChinese [OTL 50.000] While most of these served behind the lines. In Africa and even in South America, where they were used to replaced the French troops, They received full training, and as they weren't engaged in Combat, and Not French, the Training was continued .

After the War the Question of what to do with them was Raised, So the French Indochinese Army was Formed [More like the British Indian Army , than the American Philippine's Army] In 1925 a OTC course was started and the First Indochinese Officers were created in 1926. One of these is a young Paris University Graduate named Ho Chi Mien.

There is a French Naval Fleet, Consisting of 2 Battle Ships, and their Escorts. and numerous Patrol Craft.

Army- French Troops 43.000, Indochinese troops 149.000,

reformer

July 20th, 2005, 06:23 PM

British East India Company

Capital: Madras

History
This is an ideological POD. A regional nationalist movement sprouts up across Europe instead of a large scale nationalist movement. Imperialism and to a lesser exstent nation states themselves become unpopular over a period of time, and Europe becomes less technologically advanced.

The British East India remains strong and is not put under lawsuits. In fact, a large number of the British bussiness elite move to Madras.

Eventually over time, the company begins to industrialise, and uses its large number of workers to its advantage. . .

ok, I'm tight for time, so I guess i'll play off of this, and post a TL on a AH board later.

Aussey

July 20th, 2005, 06:26 PM

Imajin

July 20th, 2005, 06:32 PM

By the way, slight correction: King Jeremy of the West Indies should be King Jeremy III.

Kings of Miskitia (Kings of the West Indies after 1900)
Oldman I - 1661-1677
Oldman II - 1677-1686
Jeremy I - 1686-1720
Jeremy II - 1720-1729
Peter I - 1729-1739
Edward I - 1739-1755
George I - 1755-1776
George II - 1777-1800
George III - 1800-1824
Robert Charles Frederick - 1824-1842
George IV - 1842-1865
Edward II - 1866-1879
George V - 1879-1888
Peter II - 1889-1899
Jeremy III - 1900-

Aussey

July 20th, 2005, 06:34 PM

"Oldman" what an original name.... :rolleyes:

Imajin

July 20th, 2005, 06:34 PM

"Oldman" what an original name.... :rolleyes:
That's an OTL King :p

reformer

July 20th, 2005, 06:36 PM

No, probably not. The company is bassically fully independant after over a hundred years of non intervention.

Othniel

July 20th, 2005, 06:45 PM

Official Name:
Empire of China
Capital:

Population:

Head of State:
Emporer Zhong
History:

Timeline:
1911-1930: the Chinese Meiji

The dynastic change of 1912

In the 19th century, China went through a crisis that seriously weakened its society and political system. Western aggression, British-sponsored opium smuggling, unbalanced budgets, the Taiping uprising, and a string of natural disasters, in the context of the gradual decline of the Qing dynasty, added up to a nearly insurmontable challenge. After the failure of the 1898 reform movement, aborted within 103 days of its launching by Dowager Empress Cixi, many concluded that the only way out of decline went through regime change. The main revolutionary leader was Sun Yat-sen (Sun Zhongshan in pinyin, 1866-1925), a republican and anti-Qing activist who became increasingly popular among the overseas Chinese and Chinese students abroad, especially in Japan. In 1905 Sun founded the Tongmenghui (United League) in Tokyo with Huang Xing (1874-1916), a popular leader of the Chinese revolutionary movement in Japan, as his deputy. This movement, generously supported by overseas Chinese funds, also gained political support with regional military officers and some of the reformers who had fled China after the Hundred Days' Reform.
The republican revolution broke out on October 10, 1911, in Wuchang, the capital of Hubei Province, among discontented modernized army units whose anti-Qing plot had been uncovered. It had been preceded by numerous abortive uprisings and organized protests inside China. The revolt quickly spread to neighboring cities, and Tongmenghui members throughout the country rose in immediate support of the Wuchang revolutionary forces. By late November, fifteen of the twenty-four provinces had declared their independence of the Qing empire. A month later, Sun Yat-sen returned to China from the United States, where he had been raising funds among overseas Chinese and American sympathizers. On January 1, 1912, Sun was inaugurated in Nanjing as the provisional president of the new Chinese republic. But power in Beijing already had passed to the commander-in-chief of the imperial army, Yuan Shikai, the strongest regional military leader at the time. To prevent civil war and possible foreign intervention from undermining the infant republic, Sun agreed to Yuan's demand that China be united under a Beijing government headed by Yuan.
However, on January 18, Yuan died, officially of heart failure, although revionist historians have speculated ever since on whether his death may have been "assisted". But even with Yuan out of the way, Sun was made to understand by the conservative faction that had rallied behind Yuan that his legitimacy would not be recognized by the armed forces and much of the state apparatus if he went ahead with his presidency; to spare China a civil war, a man acceptable both to the revolutionaries and the old elite would have to assume power. That man, chosen jointly by both parties, turned out to be Kang Youwei (1858-1927). A native of Nanhai, Guangdong province, Kang came from a wealthy family of scholar-officials. He was an accomplished classical scholar with a knowledge of the West gleaned from Western books in translation. He and Liang Qichao had fled abroad after Cixiâ€™s condemnation of the reform movement in 1898. Kang had spent a total of thirteen years in exile, visiting over forty countries on five continents, and promoting the Society to Protect the Emperor (est. 1899) and its successor the Society for Constitutional Government (1903). To this end Kang and Liang were also involved in two failed insurrections against Cixi in 1900. Kang made his most extensive travels in the West in the years 1904-1909, visiting twenty European countries and North America. He returned to China on February 3, 1912; nine days later, the last Manchu emperor, the child Puyi, abdicated. On March 10, in Beijing, Kang Youwei was sworn in as provisional president of the Republic of China.
Kang had put his time in exile to good use. After the failure of his 1898 reforms, he had concluded that the remedies to Chinaâ€™s declineâ€”beyond the overthrow of the deliquescent Qingsâ€”were a revival of Confucian values, to shake them free of the sclerosis caused by their instrumentalization by the previous dynasty, and the right balance between Chinese traditions and Western technological innovations. Having spent several years in Japan, where the Meiji regime was precisley succeeding in creating a viable synthesis between Japanese culture and Western technology, he knew such a balance was possible.
However, Kang wasnâ€™t enough of a reformer to feel at ease at the head of a republic. Within weeks of his coming to power, he convened a constitutional assembly to define the institutional form of the new regime, and gave the chairmanship to his long-time friend Liang Qichao. Under Liangâ€™s influenceâ€”which relayed Kangâ€™sâ€”the assembly promptly opted for a return to Imperial rule, but, as a concession to Sun and the progressives, with a parliamentary legislative branch. The inspiration was the Wilhelmine Second Reich, which had already been the basis for Meiji Japanâ€™s institutional structure. Many of Sunâ€™s followers felt betrayed and urged him to break away from Kang, but the latter deftly appeased them by entrusting several key ministry portfolios to members of the Tongmenghui. The Zhong dynasty was officially proclaimed on September 21, 1912.
One of the first measures taken by newly crowned Emperor Kang is to declare, in time-honored fashion, the advent of the Great Awakening era. But he also busies himself with more mundane matters: reclaiming control of customs (and their revenues) from the Western powers; reorganizing the civil service; reforming the fiscal system; laying the groundwork for universal education; etc. The first two years of the Zhong dynasty are thus busy ones, but the most significant development during that early period is the reconciliation of the traditional and modern Chinese elites around the new regime, facilitated by their cooperation at the legislative level. Indeed, the new Imperial Parliament is bicameral, with a Senate made of appointed members selected from both the old establishment and the business-oriented coastal bourgeoisie, and a Lower House made of elected members; but the minimum income requirement to be part of the electorate limits the latter to the wealthiest 8% of the population. Thus representatives of the two elites, the heirs to the old order and the rising bourgeoisie, get to rub elbows in both chambers, and learn to work together, much as the land-owning aristocracy and the industrialists did in 19th-century Britain.

1914: First reclaimed territory

The beginning of WW1 in Europe gives the new regime an opportunity to undo one of the many humiliations suffered by China during the previous decades. In September 1914, Kang announces that China sides with the French-British Entente, and therefore gets both countriesâ€™ blessing to reclaim the Shandong peninsula, heretofore occupied by Germany. The Germans have but a small expeditionary corps in Qingdao and, with no hopes of reinforcements coming to their rescue, are vanquished after two months of fighting; by December, the last German soldiers have surrendered. The regimeâ€™s propaganda machine milks the victory for all its worth, and the population, starved of good news for a century, lap it up. A long-dormant nationalist fervor is reawakened, and Kang takes advantage of it to launch an ambitious program of rearmament: British military instructors are hired to complete the modernization of the army along Western norms, and aircraft are purchased from France and Britain to equip the brand-new air force.
The very first plane to fly with Chinese colors is the RAF FE2, a 2-seat pusher-propeller fighter, followed in short order by the Caudron G4 bomber/reconnaissance plane. By 1917, Chinese pilots fly Nieuport 17 and SPAD SXIII fighters, and Vickers Vimy bombers are purchased in 1918.

1918: The Russian â€œunequal treatiesâ€ revoked

It is therefore with newfound confidence in its new military might that China observes the Russian revolution of February 1917, the takeover by the Bolsheviks at the end of the year, and the subsequent descent of the Czarist empire into civil war. The political chaos, and in particular the secession of Russiaâ€™s Pacific regions give China the opportunity to intervene militarily into Russian territory, ostensibly to contain the Bolsheviksâ€™ expansion. In fact, the alliances made with the various White Russian factions such as the one led by Von Untgern-Sternberg are purely circumstantial; by 1920, the short-lived Republic of the Far East is promptly annexed, along with the part of Kazakhstan south of Lake Balkhach. China thus restores the Sino-Russian border as it had been defined by the Treaty of Nerchinsk in 1689, and undoes the annexions perpetrated by Russia in the second half of the 19th century.
The de facto occupation of Eastern Siberia at a time when, in Europe, the embattled Soviet regime is forced to accept important losses of territory to the benefit of the Baltic states, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Romania spurs China to create wholesale the kingdom of Yakutia, a puppet state that stretches from the East bank of the Ienisei to the Bering Strait, of which Yakutsk becomes the capital. At the time of its creation, the contry has but a scattered population made up of Yakuts (30%), White Russians (25%), Tungus (10%), Buriats (8%), Mongols (8%), Samoyeds (7%), Tchouktches (5%), other Siberian peoples and Chinese. The lattersâ€™ share of the population, initially low, rises in the course of the following decades and reaches 35% by the early 21st century.
Yakutia is predictably satellized politically and economically by China, on which it is dependent for protection against the USSR and for development. The regime is officially a constitutional monarchy, but the real power is in the hands of Chinese â€œadvisorsâ€. Chinese garrisons are stationed along the Yakuto-Soviet border, in Yakutsk, and in the larger towns (Krasnoiarsk, Ulan-Ude and Magadan, for the most part).
Yakutia's creation and vassalization, needless to say, is done with the blessing of the Western powers, who are all to happy to outsource to China the job of containing the Soviets to the East. Better have Eastern Siberia turned into a Chinese-controlled puppet state, the reasoning goes, than remain part of the USSR. After all, can anyone imagine the USA sharing a border with the Soviet Union?

National currencies:
(Not sure. Should be intresting to reasearch further.)
System of Government:
Constutional Monarchy
Languages:
Chiness
Religions:
neo-Confucianism 62%, Buddism 23%, Taoism 8%, Other 7%
Flag:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/36/ROC_flag_large.png/250px-ROC_flag_large.png

Othniel

July 20th, 2005, 07:18 PM

I realize that I'm going to have to give up all territory in the extreme north, that would be Russian.

pa_dutch

July 20th, 2005, 07:28 PM

Official Name: The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
Capital: Perquenco, population 850 thousand
Population: About 2.2 million
Head of State: King Orelie-Antoine II
History: The Mapuche natives are a strong, proud nation, who successfully resisted multiple conquests by the empires of Tawantinsuyo and Spain. In 1860, a French explorer and lawyer by the name of Orelie-Antoine de Tounens, sympathetic to the struggle of the Mapuche to resist conquest by Chile and Argentina, journeyed to their land and made friends with the native Mapuche chieftains. He was elected king, and a constitutional monarchy was established. Several times Chile and Argentina attempted to overthrow and deport King Orelie-Antoine I, but Napoleon III of France finally helped to aid and give recognition to the kingdom in the Araucanian Security War of 1862. Tensions with its neighbors are gradually cooling, though there is still an evident level of distrust.
National currencies: Araucanian Peso
National Day and other important days: National Day (November 17), Recognition Day (August 25)
System of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Ethnic groups: Mapuche 66%, French 6% Mixed 10%, 18% Other (mostly Chileans and Argentines, other native groups, with a sizeable Welsh minority)
Languages: Mapudungun (official), French (official), Spanish, Huilliche, Tehuelche, Welsh
Religions: Roman Catholic 40%, Indigenous beliefs 50%, other 10%

Smuz

July 20th, 2005, 07:57 PM

Official Name: Ottoman Empire

Capital: (name and population) Constantinople, circa 2,500,000

Population: Crica 25,000,000

Head of State: Padishah and Caliph Omar I

History: Earlier and more sweeping reforms under Abdul Hamid II result in civil war against reactionary elements during the late nineteenth century, leading eventually to a more politically westernised state, and key investment in industry and infrastructure(Bagdad railway completed 1906!), paid for in part by earlier exploitation of the oil fields, especially in the Iraqi desert. The Ottomans are still pulled into WWI, largely due to German threats to demand loan repayments and British attempts to seize the oil fields. They (together with the Austrians) remain immobile in the Balkans until Russia is forced to withdraw from the war, but the Ottomans push the British back into Egypt after disasterous campaigns in the Siege of Kut and Gallipoli, until 1918 is spent stalemated with the British lines almost on the Suez Canal. Post WWI, more aggressive negotiating and the threat to continue fighting (even if they cannot win, the Ottomans are concious of how little the Entente powers can afford to lose men or money), the Ottoman empire recieves most of the Arabian peninsula and Egypt (although the Suez Canal is under international (read: British) control) and several of the Balkan states are de facto client states. Currently, under Omer Farouk (aka Omar I), the Ottomans are attempting to develop their economy in order to remain a Power, with aforementioned reliance on oil exports.

National currencies: Lira (since 1870s), others in satellite states

National Day and other important days: As per Muslim holy days, and Padishah's birthday.

System of Government: Autocracy, bureaucratic civil service.

Ethnic groups: (perchanage of population) Turkish majority, Arab, some Slavic and Greek.

Major Languages: Ottoman Turkish (official language), also various dialects of Arab.

Religions: (perecent practicing) Muslim 93%, Orthodox Christian 6%.

Smuz

July 20th, 2005, 10:27 PM

Ottoman flag...

pa_dutch

July 22nd, 2005, 05:45 PM

I've decided to alter the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia somewhat, with a more indepth history and a larger population:

Official Name: The Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia
Capital: Perquenco, population 1.6 million
Population: About 4.8 million
Head of State: King Orelie-Antoine II
History: When first explored by Europeans, the regions of Araucania and Patagonia were inhabited by several native nations, the largest being the Mapuche. Shaped by the harsh environment, the Mapuche were always feircely independent. They managing to fight off many attempted conquests from the empires of Tawantinsuyo and Spain throughout history, leaving their homelands some of the only ones in the Western Hemisphere left free of colonialism. Though they were divided politically, the Mapuche always had a strong sense of unity in spirit.
The long Araucanian War was fought between the Mapuche and the Spanish for over 350 years. During that time, the Treaty of Quillan was negotiated on January 6, 1641, defining the Hispano-Mapuche border at the Bio-Bio River, though conflict continued. This treaty would be ratified several times over the course of the struggle. In the first half of the ninteenth century, however, Spanish rule was abolished from its South American territories. This left the Mapuche lands vulnerable to the newly founded republics of Chile and Argentina, who disregarded the Treaty of Quillan and claimed Araucania and Patagonia as their own, respectively.
The Mapuche struggle received the attention of French lawyer and explorer Orelie-Antoine de Tounens, who came to South America in 1858 to learn all about the Mapuche culture, language, and history. He was welcomed by the Mapuche Lonko and Toki, many of whom declared him their king. This culminated in the creation of the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia on November 17, 1860, complete with a constitution and a central government. The Council of the Kingdom and the Council of the State were established as lawmaking bodies, and the highest ranked Toki received positions as department Ministers. Based on the Mapuche traditional code of law, the Ad-Mapu, all citizens of the kingdom were granted freedom, equality, political and civil rights.
These developments did not sit well with the governments in Santiago and Buenos Aires, who plotted to end Orelie-Antoine I’s rule and seize his domain. Decieved by his servant, Juan Bautista Rosales, Chilean authorities captured the revolutionary king on January 5, 1862. Before he could be sent to an insane asylum in Santiago, the French consolate intervened and he was instead just deported back to France. In exile, he had his story published, and soon enough it came to the attention of the French Emporer, Napoleon III. Taking advantage of the weakened condition of the United States due to the American Civil War and seeking to make up for his dismal failure in Mexico, he had his troops sent to aid the troubled kingdom in late July, 1869. Orelie-Antoine had returned to Araucania and Patagonia in secret two years earlier, to the shock of the Mapuche, who thought their leader had been killed. This time, he came bearing arms for his nation’s forces.
Chile and Argentina declared war on France in a joint coalition on July 28, 1869, starting the Araucanian Security War. Also in conflict with Chile and Argentina, Peru and Bolivia allied with Napoleon III and Orelie-Antoine I, giving the enemy axis added pressure to the north. On August 16th, Chile and Argentina surrendered, and peace talks began between the leaders of the six involved nations in Buenos Aires.
Under the Treaty of Buenos Aires, signed on August 25, the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia was granted officail recognition, the border defined by the Bio-Bio River. Chile was forced to concede its territories south of this frontier, including the city of Valdivia, the island of Chiloe, and the important Tierra Del Fuego. This was followed by a mass exodus of Chilean citizens from these areas, though a number remained under Orelie-Antoine’s rule. All captured prisoners were returned to their respective governments. In return for its help, France was leased a military base in Tierra Del Fuego, called Chourgnac after Orelie-Antoine’s birthplace, and along with Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, and Chile, was given access to the Straight of Magellan. This deal lasted until the completion of the Panama Canal in 1915, when the French government no longer saw an importance to the station.
Following the war, the kingdom went into isolation for some time, tensions still very high with Chile and Argentina. King Orelie-Antoine I had his domains better organized, and raised a small army and navy. Border patrol was set up at outposts by the northern frontier, especailly due to border disputes with Argentina. Many Toki offered their daughters to him for marriage, but as a Catholic he took only one bride, a princess named Ayelen, on May 7, 1873. Some of the Mapuche converted to Catholicism in later times, though the government took no action to try and replace the native spirituality. In early years, the economy, still largely agricultural like the Mapuche way of life, began to see the rise of industry in the more urban region by the west coast, and further prospered from international usage of the Straight of Magellan as the primary way of transport between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Immigrants, mostly from France, Chile, Argentina, Wales, Germany, and Switzerland, began to pour in, in addition to a mass population growth caused by the country’s newfound stability. Orelie-Antoine I died on September 17, 1878, his widow Queen Ayelen taking charge until his only heir, Orelie-Antoine II, came of age.
Internally, the kingdom saw a boost in nationalism during these times, and largely unfounded myths arose that in ancient times seafarers from Patagonia had visited the Falkland Islands, the South Orkeney Islands, the South Shetland Islands, and Antarctica, leading many to propose claims to these areas, however weak these claims may be. Also, some rallied behind expansion north to the Maule River, the Mapuche boundary with Tawantinsuyo in Precolumbian times. Internationally, the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia was resented by many of its neighbors as the only monarchy in the Americas, but tensions slowly began to cool off with Chile and Argenina. During the Great War, the Araucanians participated as an allied nation, permitted the allies usage of the Straight of Magellan. The French once again occupied the base at Chourgnac for the time being, but pulled out rather quickly and again the old deal fell into obscurity.
Currently, the Kingdom of Araucania and Patagonia quietly persues its land claims to the surrounding islands, though it does not attempt warfare with Argentina or Britain. It also claims a decent-sized slice of Antarctica close to its southernmost point, overlapping with those of the Chileans, the Argentines, and the British.
National currencies: Araucanian Peso
National Day and other important days: National Day (November 17), Recognition Day (August 25)
System of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Ethnic groups: Mapuche 66%, French 6% Mixed 10%, 18% Other (mostly Chileans and Argentines, other native groups, with a sizeable Welsh minority)
Languages: Mapudungun (official), French (official), Spanish, Huilliche, Tehuelche, Welsh
Religions: Roman Catholic 42%, Indigenous beliefs 50%, other 8%

National Flag:

Glen

July 22nd, 2005, 07:48 PM

Pa Dutch, when is the POD in your nation? Recall that we have a limit of POD no earlier than 1790ish.

pa_dutch

July 22nd, 2005, 08:42 PM

The POD is sometime after 1862... After Orelie-Antoine was deported back to France and had his memiors published. Anything before that is part of OTL history.

Othniel

July 26th, 2005, 06:06 PM

Official Name: United Realms of the Portuguese Commonwealth (Kingdom of Portugal, Kingdom of Brazil, Dominion of Angola, Dominion of Mozambique)
Capital: Lisbon (275,000)
Population:Total Population; 88.8 Million People
Portugal
8.9 Million people
97,636 Soldiers

Brazil
72.8 million people
1 Million Soldiers

Mozambique
5.2 Million People
25,981 Soldiers

Angola
1.9 Million People
15,195 Soldiers

Head of State: Duarte II (Nuno) Bragança
History:When Joao's VI oldest son became sick he abidicated to take care of him, remaining in Brazil. Miguel became the ruler of the Dual Monarchy of Brazil and Portugal. Seeking to emulate the British he found it wise to reorganize the kingdom into a vast commonwealth and to promt resources when he ablolished slavery in 1853. His son, Miguel II, found it nessacary to go after the resources in Angola, although forced labour was still used on the Africans as Miguel II subjugated the inteiror in 1907. With the use of Angolan and Brazillian resources sucessful economic reform took place. In 1924 (soon after the first world war;allied victory (OTL) in which they were able to stay a nuetral force) he abicated to his son Duarte due to poor health. (Sorry for the scant history
System of Government: Commonwealth and kingdoms in the British Parlimentary manner
Languages: Portuguese
Religions: Roman Catholic Majority