TCS

[Emperor Qianlong]

Good job on the Color Scheme, Thande! I approve of your scheme by 95%! :D

[Thande]

Good job on the Color Scheme, Thande! I approve of your scheme by 95%! :D

Thankee. What's the other 5%? I'm not necessarily going to act on it because I may disagree but I am collecting criticism before TCS goes live.

[Emperor Qianlong]

Thankee. What's the other 5%? I'm not necessarily going to act on it because I may disagree but I am collecting criticism before TCS goes live.

Just a few nitpicks where I think - upon second thought - that I may be too conservative and too nostalgic with color schemes. :o First off, there's the HRE, I'd add the classical pale grey color in the list for the HRE (or, I'd at least write down the color values). The only other issue I have is that I miss the pale-light-brown Mongolia (some 178-181-109-ish, at least that's the latest I have on my map). But yeah, your Mongolia is alright as well.

Otherwise, you did an excellent job - especially on the table (especially the RGB tables to prevent color variations), and the ideas about generalized "colonial successor states". Also, your Russia is gold! I'm going to stick to this scheme in the future! :D

Now, completely independent from your color scheme, there's a question which came up: how to represent entities in Antiquity. I mean, granted, Rome and Carthage are pretty straightforward, but how about the Ptolemaic and Seleucid empires? It's the same thing with the Migrations Period (Burgundians, Franks, Saxons, Vandals, Visigoths, etc.). Any suggestion about that one?

[Thande]

Just a few nitpicks where I think - upon second thought - that I may be too conservative and too nostalgic with color schemes. :o First off, there's the HRE, I'd add the classical pale grey color in the list for the HRE (or, I'd at least write down the color values). The only other issue I have is that I miss the pale-light-brown Mongolia (some 178-181-109-ish, at least that's the latest I have on my map). But yeah, your Mongolia is alright as well.

I don't like using pale grey for the HRE, partly because I like using pale grey for German sucessor states but mainly because now that dark grey means "Germany" rather than "Prussia", dark grey can stand for both modern Germany and the HRE when it was a unitary entity. That ought to please the Susanoes of the world ;)

I changed Mongolia partly because the old one was too similar to Egypt but mainly because it didn't show up well against Russian gold. I took the colour from Roberto's maps, who did the opposite - made Egypt darker.

Otherwise, you did an excellent job - especially on the table (especially the RGB tables to prevent color variations), and the ideas about generalized "colonial successor states". Also, your Russia is gold! I'm going to stick to this scheme in the future! :D
Well I used both as a wishy-washy compromise and also because it was a question that came up on the ATL map database--should a radical but non-communist Russia be red, and what if some other state is the leading communist state? So now we have gold for imperial Russia, green for radical Russia, and red denotes 'chief Communist state' rather than 'USSR' as such.


Now, completely independent from your color scheme, there's a question which came up: how to represent entities in Antiquity. I mean, granted, Rome and Carthage are pretty straightforward, but how about the Ptolemaic and Seleucid empires? It's the same thing with the Migrations Period (Burgundians, Franks, Saxons, Vandals, Visigoths, etc.). Any suggestion about that one?
Basically, my position has always been that it's not worth trying to make a colour scheme for all of history. I know other people have tried to apply the UCS to it but in my view you just end up using colours inappropriately, like how the same colour was used for Carthage and Tunisia just because they occupy the same approximate location. And trying to match up modern colours to Germanic tribes is very very debatable--should the Franks get French blue considering they gave their name to France, even though the French colour carries the connotations of modern France being a predominantly Latin nation racially, culturally and linguistically and the Franks were Germanic? So I basically just say that you shouldn't try and apply a colour scheme designed for the early modern to modern world to antiquity. It's not as if world maps from that period are terribly useful anyway, as there's so much blank space.

[LordInsane]

I don't like using pale grey for the HRE, partly because I like using pale grey for German sucessor states but mainly because now that dark grey means "Germany" rather than "Prussia", dark grey can stand for both modern Germany and the HRE when it was a unitary entity. That ought to please the Susanoes of the world ;)
It spares a colour that can be used for other things, as well, such as your example of a German colonial successor state. Would be rather pointless to have a colour just for a historic polity when there is a colour that would fit it reasonably well.

[Thande]

The only trouble is that neither shade of grey shows up well when used as an outline. A lot of older maps on here use a red outline for the disunited HRE but alas with ATL maps, you can no longer be certain that a disunited HRE won't share a world with a Communist state ;)

[LordInsane]

The only trouble is that neither shade of grey shows up well when used as an outline. A lot of older maps on here use a red outline for the disunited HRE but alas with ATL maps, you can no longer be certain that a disunited HRE won't share a world with a Communist state ;)
At least the lighter grey *can* show up reasonably well, but it seems to work best in smaller white states, which would appear less often unless one is a Susanoist in the outlining sense. The darker grey would appear to be... slightly more flexible.