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Strategos' Risk
June 22nd, 2005, 06:27 AM
Does anyone have it? The story and gist of it follows.

One of the best things this game has going for it is the story, which is very realistic and scary in that it could actually happen. In the near future [2006 –Strategos’ Risk], as the United States and Russia slash their military budgets and Russia erupts with internal problems, China continues to grow stronger and eventually decides to 'reclaim traditional Chinese territories'. When they attack south-east Asia, the US sends the Seventh Fleet, the main Asian force, off of Taiwan to help protect the island and warns the Chinese to pull out. In response, the Chinese attack and sink the American carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, claiming it was in Chinese waters. The outrage over this unprovoked attack causes the President to ask Congress for a declaration of war, which is soon followed by most of the United Nations. World War Three is now at hand…

If you play as the Chinese, the game is easier at first but then gets harder. When the war starts, the Chinese activate Plan Red, which calls for China to conquer as much of Asia as possible, become the strongest nation on Earth, and force the UN to accept their gains. Their forces lash out in several directions, and the US/UN suffer some horrible defeats, to the point where their forces are withdrawn from almost all of Asia. Russia loses everything east of the Urals and is forced to quit the war and sign a separate peace. During the first three years, you will enjoy a major advantage over your foes, but then once resistance finally gets heavy and the US/UN counter-attack, then the game gets harder.

As the American player, you start three years after the war broke out. It has taken that long for the US economy to gear up into war production, and finally the US/UN is ready to counter-attack. Your first battles are to save South Korea, which has been invaded by North Korea and Chinese forces, and show the Chinese your superior technology and training. Once South Korea is saved, your army is then sent to Russia, which has agreed to allow you to see if you can win some battles against Chinese forces on Russian soil -- without their help. The game is harder as the US/UN player, and you are often outnumbered on land, but you enjoy air and sea superiority, and your forces are better then the Chinese in equipment and technology...

Tactical nukes should be a weapon -- I would expect that one side or the other would use them, even if they agreed not to wage a full scale nuclear war. China also quits the war as soon as their conquests are gone and the US/UN is ready to invade China itself. I just don't see China acting like Germany did at the end of World War One and it would take American troops marching down the streets of Beijing before they would even consider peace.

Ah, technothrillers before 9/11. Could the PRC really take that much of Asia? All of Russia east of the Urals?!? That’s crazy, even compared to the Ender’s Shadow series.

Anyhow, if I really wanted to I could download it at Home of the Underdogs, but the game’s immense. I would like someone who has to game to detail what happens, story-wise, though.

Neroon
June 22nd, 2005, 06:47 AM
Does anyone have it? The story and gist of it follows.



Ah, technothrillers before 9/11. Could the PRC really take that much of Asia? All of Russia east of the Urals?!? That’s crazy, even compared to the Ender’s Shadow series.

Anyhow, if I really wanted to I could download it at Home of the Underdogs, but the game’s immense. I would like someone who has to game to detail what happens, story-wise, though.

Picked it a few years ago in the Bargain Bin. Really enjoyed it. Realistic? I don't know, really. In the intro you learn how the U.S. defense budget get slashed and Russia tears itself apart in ethnic strife while China prospers. I guess a point could be made that all China would really need to take in a war with Russia is the Trans - Siberian railroad, which would give it control of the Rest of Siberia by default.
The story is pretty much what is described by HOTUD.
The part that i got problems with is the Invasion of Soth Korea. In a scenario, where China together with its North Korean allies goes on a conquest Spree for more than 2 years conquering Siberia and Southeast Asia South Korea would be armed to the teeth and then some by the time it was next on the list.
I gotto disagree with you on one thing though: I totally think that the PRC would throw the towel once its beaten in the conquered territories and an invasion seems imminent. Cutting their losses here means that the guys in charge might manage to cling to power, which is ALWAYS their highest priority.

aktarian
June 22nd, 2005, 07:55 AM
Want to hear something funny? If you play Chinese you can buy Soviet made stuff. Like S-300, Tunguska AD etc. So you are attacking Russians and they are selling you weapons. :D

Neroon
June 22nd, 2005, 10:29 AM
Want to hear something funny? If you play Chinese you can buy Soviet made stuff. Like S-300, Tunguska AD etc. So you are attacking Russians and they are selling you weapons. :D

Acutally i always assumed that was Chinese-made war material, which was produced under license before the war, that they simply kept on producing once the shooting started permission or not.

Xen
June 22nd, 2005, 11:14 AM
Its a good game, but as far as I know its not compatible with Windows XP, everytime I try to play it now, I get black screen and hear the music playing in the back ground.

Dave Howery
June 22nd, 2005, 01:51 PM
a China/US war seems a lot like the 'whale and the wolf' scenario of US vs. GB in the 1800's.... basically you have a massive land force vs. an overwhelming naval force. The Chinese have huge if low tech land armies and can march about anywhere where there's dry land. The US will rule the oceans utterly and sink everything Chinese that's afloat.

Xen
June 22nd, 2005, 02:24 PM
In any such war it comes to air power. China boasts the worlds largest Air Force, but the US Air Force has the technological edge, and is an all around better Air Force as far as training and experience goes. Plus the stealth could take out some air bases while the planes are grounded. Overall the edge goes to the west.

aktarian
June 22nd, 2005, 03:18 PM
Acutally i always assumed that was Chinese-made war material, which was produced under license before the war, that they simply kept on producing once the shooting started permission or not.

Chinese rename foreign stuff. Su-27s are J-soemthing (J-12 IIRC) etc. This goes for land weapons as well. Either designers were too lazy to check their stuff or they think Russians are guilable. :D

Jonathan Kan
June 26th, 2005, 06:59 AM
Chinese rename foreign stuff. Su-27s are J-soemthing (J-12 IIRC) etc. This goes for land weapons as well. Either designers were too lazy to check their stuff or they think Russians are guilable. :D

J-11 actually

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-27#Production_and_users

Chewy
June 27th, 2005, 02:12 PM
Its a good game, but as far as I know its not compatible with Windows XP, everytime I try to play it now, I get black screen and hear the music playing in the back ground.


If you use you the XP Compatibality program you should be able to sort it out. Just set it at Windows 98 and 640 x whatever it is and it should run okay.

Dave Howery
June 27th, 2005, 09:39 PM
If you use you the XP Compatibality program you should be able to sort it out. Just set it at Windows 98 and 640 x whatever it is and it should run okay.
is this something already part of XP, something you download, or something you buy?

Chewy
June 28th, 2005, 01:15 PM
is this something already part of XP, something you download, or something you buy?


Its installed with XP. I cant remember exactly where it is but if you hit 'start' I think its somewhere under Programs. If not there then definitely somewhere on the start menu.

Hope you find it.