Operation: Beat the Living fuck out of those Racist insalving Bastards

[Zor]

OK we all know the Drakas (Aka Steve Stirling's Ocean sized wet dream), now we have the Ability to get rid of the Racist Fucks.

You Can Bring in any sci-fi/Fantasy species out there. Now i have the GVS Grey Area (aka the Meatfucker, geuss why) available so you can take the easy way out, but you get extra points for bring in something more creative.

For me, i am sending in the Warhammer 40K Imperial Navy and Space Marines (Spacificly Blood Angels, Ultramarines and the Space Wolfs) on a Crusade to purge the Galaxy of these Slave owning Heretics. For the Glory of the Imortal God Emperor of Humanity!

Zor

[Forum Lurker]

Draka are dangerous pests, and as such, are to be put down as swiftly and brutally as possible. Unfortunately, such a response would generally involve a great deal of loss of life on the part of the slaves; in consequence, a more moderated approach is necessary. As such, I'll call on the 1st Battalion, 555th Mobile Infantry, Fleet Strike, Major Michael O'Neal commanding. Capable of surviving ground zero of a ten-kiloton antimatter explosion, and with individual firepower more closely resembling an armor company than an infantryman, the ACS will be able to cleanse the Draka from the face of the Earth without resorting to area bombardment.

[Hermanubis]

How about the Justice League, The Avengers, The Justice Society of America, The X-Men, The Teen Titans, The New Avengers, The Crime Syndicate of Amerika, The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Ext…

[Forum Lurker]

No discipline, no consistency. The Brotherhood and the X-Men would start fighting each other, the Justice League would try to arrest them instead of using the requisite lethal force, etc. This is a job for professionals, not vigilantes in Spandex.

[DarkSlavik]

why not just poison the hell out of them with a super-strand of eboli or anthrax gamma?

[Forum Lurker]

Because there are innocents there. The Draka keep their serfs around, and we can't go killing off the serfs.

[Hermanubis]

No discipline, no consistency. The Brotherhood and the X-Men would start fighting each other, the Justice League would try to arrest them instead of using the requisite lethal force, etc. This is a job for professionals, not vigilantes in Spandex.
I think your underestimating the effectiveness of an Assload of Super beings (That includes Superman, Captain Marvel, The Incredible Hulk, Mighty Thor, ext)

[Forum Lurker]

They can do a hell of a lot of damage, no question about it. The problem is exactly that. There are very few of them with physical restraint, personal restraint, enough power in a wide enough range to get the job done, and no enemies in the other groups to interfere. The Hulk is going to kill civilians en masse, as will Thor and most of the other powerhouses. Many of the people who have the ability to locate individual members of the regime, after Superman breaks their field army, are either not powerful enough to achieve complete results, mentally unsuited to the harsh pragmatism necessary when a few hundred people attempt to topple a world government, or will get caught up in fighting members of the other super teams because of old rivalries. There's no command structure, there's no consistency of policy; regardless of their individual powers none of them can work above the squad level, and most of them have serious problems even that small.

[Hermanubis]

Well, The Crime Syndicate of Amerika (The Anti-Matter Universe Evil Justice League) for example attacked and destroyed civilizations on Planets much more advanced then Earth. Perhaps it would help if The Superheroes started on one end, while Villains on another?

Say

Justice League, The Avengers, The Justice Society of America, The X-Men, The Teen Titans, The New Avengers, ext(Say most of the entire roster of Marvel and DC Superherotypes ) start somewhere in South Africa, whilst

Crime Syndicate of Amerika, The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Sinister Six, Hydra, unaffiliated Villains, ext (Again, Most of the Supervillaintypes from DC and Marvel, exempting Galactus and some others who would be too powerful) Start out in Liberia or someplace like that.

[Othniel]

Just send in SHIELD if you want the job done right....

Other than that you have many who are collecting vetran checks on the avengers. You could just reactivate their status in the US Army and tell them to get rid of the enemy. :D

[JLCook]

because the Draka are ca 1945 technology!

Hit them with armored formations armed with M1a1 or equivilent, and use apcs like the Bradly or even the BMP. Any 2005 era airforce will be adequate, just bring along some awacs. Don't forget to bring helicopters like the Hind, Cheyenne, Blackhawk, etc, and be sure to use modern, gps equipped mobile SP Artillery. M109a6s would work. Nuclear powered US style carrier attack groups---say about 12 of them, and modern nuclear attack subs, and you can wipe out all of the Draka Navy, airforce, and seferely thrash their Army, within the space of a week.

[Hermanubis]

Really, Superman ought to be enough, just thought it would be fun with more…(Plus, there could be a giant Heroes v. Villains showdown at the end! How about that..)

[Forum Lurker]

Really, Superman ought to be enough, just thought it would be fun with more…(Plus, there could be a giant Heroes v. Villains showdown at the end! How about that..)

The problem is Superman can't do anything constructive. He's only one man; even with his ridiculous movement speed he couldn't gather that many captives in one place, and he'll adamantly refuse to kill them.

because the Draka are ca 1945 technology!

Hit them with armored formations armed with M1a1 or equivilent, and use apcs like the Bradly or even the BMP. Any 2005 era airforce will be adequate, just bring along some awacs. Don't forget to bring helicopters like the Hind, Cheyenne, Blackhawk, etc, and be sure to use modern, gps equipped mobile SP Artillery. M109a6s would work. Nuclear powered US style carrier attack groups---say about 12 of them, and modern nuclear attack subs, and you can wipe out all of the Draka Navy, airforce, and seferely thrash their Army, within the space of a week.

True, but that wastes time, effort, and lives. As Iraq demonstrated, even poorly-trained, under-equipped armed forces can inflict some losses on a modern fighting force. Use sci-fi powered armor, on the other hand, and you see absolutely no loss of life, and consequently can use much less drastic force.

[Count Dearborn]

Send the Authority of kick their asses. The Midnighter would fight them to a standstill, and his lover, Apollo would utterly destroy their civilization. The rest twould make sure that the Serfs would be safe. Hawkmoor would turn their cities against them, and the Engineer would use her Nano-tech to destroy their tech. In the end, Jenny Quantum would basically screw them up big time.

[DarkSlavik]

how about we release a virus that effects only the draka and not the slaves, that would work.

[Mojo]

Personally I say just drop the Hulk in the middle of them with some angry pills and presto no Draka :D

[DarkSlavik]

Personally I say just drop the Hulk in the middle of them with some angry pills and presto no Draka :D

forget hulk how about a army of rabid bagers.

[Forum Lurker]

how about we release a virus that effects only the draka and not the slaves, that would work.

That trick never works.

[Gedca]

While I'm tempted to send the Dominion at them (Jem'Hadar could kick there asses). I've decided that the coolest way the kill them all would be to send the Fremen at them. 10,000 fully armed fremen should be more than enough to kill them all.

[DarkSlavik]

a army of T-100 terminators would do the trick.

[Dave Howery]

only God can take them out. The Rapture hits, all the familiar stuff about Armaggedon occurs, and the Draka all go to Hell.

No? Ok, how about they get assimilated by the Borg....

[DarkSlavik]

only God can take them out. The Rapture hits, all the familiar stuff about Armaggedon occurs, and the Draka all go to Hell.

No? Ok, how about they get assimilated by the Borg....

nah they would only want to takeover hell, god should just throw them into outer space into the direction of the sun so we can watch them fizzle in the heat.

[Zor]

10,000 fully armed fremen should be more than enough to kill them all.

No, it would go down like this...

Two Snake soldiers are sitting down with a Draka Machine Machine Guns as the Fremen come in.

Snake One-Looks like some screaming Ferals are comming our way

Snake Two-Yep, Can't beleive even Ferals could be that stupid

Snake One-Well, time to put 'em out of there missery

Fremen get blown to bits by Heavy Machine Gun Fire

Zor

[Hermanubis]

Well, keep in mind what the Draka could find in Egypt when they get there in SI-FI amalgam land…

So, if your bored with Superheros and such, we can add the Armies of Apophis to this thing…

[Gedca]

No, it would go down like this...

Two Snake soldiers are sitting down with a Draka Machine Machine Guns as the Fremen come in.

Snake One-Looks like some screaming Ferals are comming our way

Snake Two-Yep, Can't beleive even Ferals could be that stupid

Snake One-Well, time to put 'em out of there missery

Fremen get blown to bits by Heavy Machine Gun Fire

ZorI recall the shields used in Dune make them immune to gunfire. The shields work by stopping fast things, like guns, while allowing slow items, like swords through. That why it works so well, the Draka all die by something as simple as swords.

[Zor]

I recall the shields used in Dune make them immune to gunfire. The shields work by stopping fast things, like guns, while allowing slow items, like swords through. That why it works so well, the Draka all die by something as simple as swords.

Fremen However, Don't use sheilds. But even if they did, Tanksquish.

Zor

[Hermanubis]

How about the Justice League, The Avengers, The Justice Society of America, The X-Men, The Teen Titans, The New Avengers, The Crime Syndicate of Amerika, The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, Ext…
To give you a better idea about what this might look like, I found this…
http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/draarg/CCS/JLAAv/ccsjlaa1.jpg
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[Ivan Druzhkov]

Personally, I wouldn't mind a flotilla of fully-stocked Borg tactical cubes, or two or three fleets of Species 8472 bioships. Hell, why not send in the Hirogen for extra irony?

If you want something cleaner, I'd send in Yuri's army from RA2:YR. Sure, their tech is weaker than the Draka stuff, but Yuri has the Psychic Dominator. The equation is simple.

Domination of Draka + Psychic Dominator = "Ah will obay Mastah Yuri...ah will obay Mastah Yuri...ah will obay Mastah Yuri..."

[Archangel Michael]

Why not just send a handful of Goa'uld motherships. :D

[Thyme]

1 Planetoid 5'th Imperiam-Verse (David Weber)(At any of their tech levels).

40K would have the disadvantage (not during Marching Through Georgia, but Stone Dogs) of being outnumbered 70,000 - 1 with 5K (Inc, Max) of them having equivalent armor, and many more of them having equivalent weapons to a .75cal AP Gyrojet.

Superheroes are Kute, but any reasonable number would be nuked (if necessary), assuming that they can be. Superman level are another Q.

[Flocculencio]

I'm going to go with the Mobile Infantry of the book Starship Troopers

Power armour, a vast array of weapons including man-launched tactical mini-nukes, excellent training and the rabid dedication to freedom* that the Mobile Infantry stands for.

"To the everlasting glory of the infantry/ Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young!"

*albeit freedom as defined within the strange liberal-fascist world of Starship Troopers. They'd still hate the Draka though simply for their inhumanity towards other humans

[Hermanubis]

1 Planetoid 5'th Imperiam-Verse (David Weber)(At any of their tech levels).

40K would have the disadvantage (not during Marching Through Georgia, but Stone Dogs) of being outnumbered 70,000 - 1 with 5K (Inc, Max) of them having equivalent armor, and many more of them having equivalent weapons to a .75cal AP Gyrojet.

Superheroes are Kute, but any reasonable number would be nuked (if necessary), assuming that they can be. Superman level are another Q.
Yeah, I don’t think a even a Nuke would stop the likes of Superman, Thor or the Incredible Hulk…

[Hermanubis]

Anyway, we could always just sick Godzilla up against them…

http://faculty.washington.edu/leotta/pix/godzilla.gif



History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men

[Hermanubis]

Anyway, who wants to write up a scenario with “all of the above”?

[Hermanubis]

Army of Superheroes, army of Supervillains, Godzilla, Starship Troopers, 5'th Imperiam, The Armies of Apophis, Borg (Id personally be against this, because everyone would just end up fighting them, but whatever…), Terminators, ext…

[Bulldawg85]

I don't know. I would imagine that they would have problems with some of the Chtorr worms from David Gerrold's books.

[Archangel Michael]

Army of Superheroes, army of Supervillains, Godzilla, Starship Troopers, 5'th Imperiam, The Armies of Apophis, Borg (Id personally be against this, because everyone would just end up fighting them, but whatever…), Terminators, ext…

Not the armies of Apophius. The armies of Anubis with super soldiers. In the words of Jack O'Neill: "It appears they're massing a few troops."

Oh screw it, why not just send SG-1 and some Tok'ra and rebel Jaffa. :D

[JLCook]

featuring the "assimilation" of the Domination of Draka (of an AH Startrek timeline, by the Borg! There is certainly a pretty good fanfic concerning just that happy event on STARDESTROYER.Net/fanfic right now!

My personal desire is that the Domination of Draka, as discribed on SD results in that abomination being overwhelmed by 1950 or so, by Soviet, German, and US forces! (Why can't anyone write a good naval account concerning how the USN slaughtered the Drakia Navy in a big battle off the African coast in 1944 or 45?)

[Strategos' Risk]

Send the uber-fascist-capitalist-imperialist Alliance of Democracy Americans from Chris at ChangingtheTimes' story, "Starship America."

For other ATL wackiness, use the Race (lizards from WorldWar), or Unity (Ian Montgomerie's dystopia world government).

Hell, all of the groups you need from AH are here:

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=10945