Mosaic Earth Saga

[reformer]

Ok, so every once in a while I hear a reference to an old old ME. Could someone please tell me what thing like SME stand for? What were the old PODs? How well did they go?

[Diamond]

SME was 'Second Mosaic Earth'. As you can imagine, that was back in the days before you guys really hammered out some good guidelines. There was a complete mishmash of different nations, from all sorts of PODs, with no unifying idea behind it. It was very chaotic, but in a way, that made it more fun, and really, more true to what the nations involved in an ISOT would go through, their reactions and all. AFAIK, it was also the ME with the most players, tho I could be wrong since I haven't played in one since then.

[DuQuense]

Second Mosaic Earth was the first one played on this Board. When the Concept was being imported from Alt.hist.whatif. it had the same today +5 time as ME 6, but died as everyone went racing into Sci-fi neverland.

[reformer]

What about the other ones? What PODs were used? Which ones worked the best?

[Bulgaroktonos]

I really liked ME6.0 It had so much potential with my Imperial Russia, until the greatest misinterpretation of all time led to Aussey's alliance with Russia and the German withdrawal from its support of Poland, and the resultant invasion of Poland.......

[reformer]

Yes, I would have stayed with that one. The problem was that you were just a little too powerful, and only I was willing to stand up to you. The restarted version just seems so trivial in comparrison. Maybe its gotten better now. . . who knows.

[Matt]

Technically, if we were to create a new ME, you can post whatever POD you want, as long as it's within the Tech timelimit established at the beginning.

And such. :D

I like 6.0 as well. Until Aussey had the biggest misinterpation ever. He mistook my plea and overtures for an alliance as threats. Sigh.


I like ME5 the most though, unfortunatly we had some misunderstandings and such for that one once Aussey jumped in.

[Glen]

What was the difference between ME 6.0 and the restart?

[Matt]

Imperial Russia mostly. Instead of having the dying USSR that DQ was playing, Bulg controlled it. And it was in the middle of WW3, fully mobilized and ready to crush most of Europe.

[Bulgaroktonos]

In 6.0 there was this nation called Imperial Russia. They were fighting World War III against all of Europe and the US before the ISOT. So they had A LOT of men and a HUGE paranoia complex. IR freaked out at that ISOT, a minute after they had launched their nuclear arsenel at the United States and Europe in their TL, and vice versa, and there was a big "nuclear" exchange between everybody because of it. So I started pushing people around in Eastern Europe, things got tense, and MBarry was trying to rally a defense of Eastern Europe, and had everybody on board, until MBarry said "Would we demand that you return Alsace and Lorraine to us?" and Aussey took it as "We demand you return A/L to us!" and sided with Russia in the crisis. Germany backed down from the two front war, and Russia, the HRE, and A/L went to war against Poland......

I was in the process of taking splitting Poland in half and bombing Italy into ashes when we decided to restart......

The most glaring difference is there is no big, mean, and paranoid nation inhabiting Russia.....

[Matt]

I was between a rock and hard place. I could crush A/L like a bug, or defend the Eastern frontier in hopes of American and French reinforcements, but not both.

[perdedor99]

I was between a rock and hard place. I could crush A/L like a bug, or defend the Eastern frontier in hopes of American and French reinforcements, but not both.

exactly. a very good ME. But you made the right decision.

[reformer]

Hey, Italy had a chance. They had already wiped out a large amount of your two biggest urban centers. In reality, at this point your citizens would be hesitant about continuing war. I can't believe no one mentioned me in the plot synopsis though. . . Italy was important damn it!

[perdedor99]

Hey, Italy had a chance. They had already wiped out a large amount of your two biggest urban centers. In reality, at this point your citizens would be hesitant about continuing war. I can't believe no one mentioned me in the plot synopsis though. . . Italy was important damn it!

IMO the Russians were willing to take the casualties and your attacks to civilian centers weren't helping your cause at all. It was more like positive propaganda for the Russians. And I feel sorry for Italy when the Russians their hands on your land. If I recall the numbers your army was miniscule compared with his.

[Bulgaroktonos]

It was something on the order of 9 millions.......

[Matt]

Most of that was shear fodder of course. But the big deal was the 1.5 million or so of real serious Guard formations that could go toe to toe with Germany's finest.

[Othniel]

I loved my Baltic States...they were the greatest creation ever. In the mist of a civil war that neither side had the power to finish. Insurgency, spreading terrorism, and such...

If Mbarry had let them not become Polish puppets in ME6.1 they could have made for an intresting game in the Soviet Union. ;)

[DuQuense]

I Remember the Reich Caucuses, from the First ME, I still think they fell too fast. But whe never have had a long War, on ME. Any one up For a Victorious 3rd Reich in ME-CW, A Repeat of WW2 with 1965 tech. Or one where the CW was Between the Reich and the Allies.

?What would a Nazi Controlled Russia be like?

?Or maybe whe can bring on the [Un spoken] Mammal?

[Lauranthalas]

I Remember the Reich Caucuses, from the First ME, I still think they fell too fast. But whe never have had a long War, on ME. Any one up For a Victorious 3rd Reich in ME-CW, A Repeat of WW2 with 1965 tech. Or one where the CW was Between the Reich and the Allies.

?What would a Nazi Controlled Russia be like?

?Or maybe whe can bring on the [Un spoken] Mammal?
WWII with 1965 tech wouldnt work if you ask me. its too destructive. we dont have the menpower

[reformer]

Out of curiosity, is most of the ME action usually in Europe, or in the less advanced nations, or in the non ISOTed areas. . . I ask because I'm surprised how focused LiME has been on the American South West, Peru, and Indo China, none of which were ever exstremely important OTL.

[Tetsu]

I liked SME. That and ME3 were the only ones I played in. My SME country was the Norse Republic of Iceland [the Iceland province of the Norse Kingdom pre-ISOT]. I had plans to turn it fascist and ally with the Reichskommisariat Kaukasus [a food-for-oil type deal], but then the game kind of fizzled out.

ME3 was kind of fun too. I was the Aztec Empire.

[Lauranthalas]

Out of curiosity, is most of the ME action usually in Europe, or in the less advanced nations, or in the non ISOTed areas. . . I ask because I'm surprised how focused LiME has been on the American South West, Peru, and Indo China, none of which were ever exstremely important OTL.
well in ME6.1 we had a biowar india vs france. me6.2 was nicely panamerican. so i guess it depends where are the most tensions