View Full Version : Can we help people in ATL beat NAZIS?
Derek Jackson
June 18th, 2005, 11:48 PM
A group of Scientists from an ATL in which Nazis dominate everywhere except Central and North America. Technogy had not advanced so fast as in OTL.
The US, Mexico and Canada had survived partly because production is more efficient than in Nazi areas with slave Labour (That happened in WW2 in OTL) and also because huge scientific leaps are slowed by Nazi methods.
The West had had the Bomb and used it tactically. The reason for what was actually an attempt at time travel was that the Nazis now have the device and the end of all seems all too possible.
Assuming such travellers are accepted as authentic is there anything the World in 2005 could do to change the balance of power in this other nightmare World?
Should we?
(PS this is linked to the idea of a series called Dimensions (see Amateur writers forum)
Count Dearborn
June 19th, 2005, 02:49 AM
Give them covert aid, stuff like food, medicines, manufactured items.
Nik
June 19th, 2005, 01:18 PM
A few simple bits of today's tech could make a BIG difference...
A 'long rifle' with laser / night sight, a couple of Claymores and 'Stinger' tubes, a lap-top plus camera, scanner & printer to fake ID / permits etc. Oh, and some *nice* machine-pistols etc sized for local ammo...
Perhaps, playing dirty, a supply of LSD and/or 'Instant Parkinson's'...
I'd decline the bio-war card, as paranoid Axis might take a genuine epidemic as a real first-strike attack...
Leej
June 19th, 2005, 01:50 PM
These are obviously super nazis. Invading and conquering Britain is ASB enough but reaching South America...
Depends exactly how super they are. And how asb their over use of slave labour is.
Since for every minor action by every atom in the universe creates a new universe interfering in another one is not a good idea and should not be done. There are worlds outthere where everything as wacky as it sounds has happened, just let them be....
But then of course there will be versions of the worlds in question where they did help, where they didn't help, etc...
Kurt_Steiner
June 19th, 2005, 05:02 PM
just send them some tones of pornography. the nazis would forget about conquering anything and they would be too busy "reading" becoming, then, an easy prey. :D
Derek Jackson
June 19th, 2005, 09:36 PM
The ASB element is that folk in this timeline reach ours.
I have to say that had Moscow fallen in 1941-2 and had Midway been a major defeat for the US things would look <b>VERY</b> bad. In OTL a huge amount of Nazi effort was directed against the Soviet Union. I have to say if he "solved" that problem in the Nazi style Britain would look very vulnerable.
In OTL there were pro Nazi elements in South America. If the Nazis looked like winners they could take power.
I believe (naive you may call me) that a Democratic mobilized society can produce prodidgously the means for War. I think a more threatened America would more or less match the evil enemy in this. (As did Britain in Aircraft Production in 1940)
I think that slave Labour- especially the kind the Nazis used where they at best did not mind if the slaves died- is not actually that efficient.
I also fear that if the Nazis looked like winners they might have orgnanized something with elements of the IRA and have conquered Southern Ireland.
I fear that eventually my land (Britain) would have fallen.
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