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edvader
June 10th, 2005, 04:26 PM
This is NOT ASB stuff.Calling all Canadians including Doc What.WI canada discovered a MASSIVE reserve of oil either in one of the Western provinces or in the province of Quebec?What happens next-especially if the oil is in Quebec province and there is a successful movement for independance from Canada?
Wendell
June 10th, 2005, 04:28 PM
There IS a great deal of oil in Western Canada.
Mike Stearns
June 10th, 2005, 04:34 PM
There IS a great deal of oil in Western Canada.
Wendell is right. Its called the Alberta Oil Sands. There's also the Hibernia field off the coast of Newfoundland.
edvader
June 10th, 2005, 04:45 PM
OK.Thanks.Next item:what is to be done or they can't drill for it?
Valamyr
June 11th, 2005, 01:09 AM
The rock in Quebec is almost entirely sedentary, which makes any finding of oil highly unlikely.
Natural gaz is not out of question though. But obviously, Quebec's energy source is naturally water, and its value can only increase.
So i think western canada will always be the oil rich region, while Quebec will have to play its own strengths.
edvader: Alberta IS very rich in oil and it IS exploiting it. Albertans pay almost no taxes because of all the oil, and most of it is exported to the US. The way the canadian federation works, only Albertans profit from it, though, since natural ressources are a provincial competance field.
DominusNovus
June 11th, 2005, 02:05 AM
edvader: Alberta IS very rich in oil and it IS exploiting it. Albertans pay almost no taxes because of all the oil, and most of it is exported to the US. The way the canadian federation works, only Albertans profit from it, though, since natural ressources are a provincial competance field.
I always did have a liking for Alberta... :cool:
Wendell
June 11th, 2005, 05:02 AM
There's an Alberta Statehood movement.
Valamyr
June 11th, 2005, 05:16 AM
Which will never amount to anything because the US federation would want a share of its spoils, unlike the canadian federation.
There is however a rather strong albertan independence movement as well, I believe. Theyll be the next to go after Quebec.
Wendell
June 11th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Which will never amount to anything because the US federation would want a share of its spoils, unlike the canadian federation.
There is however a rather strong albertan independence movement as well, I believe. Theyll be the next to go after Quebec.
Do you think that Canada will survive if Quebec goes?
DominusNovus
June 11th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Which will never amount to anything because the US federation would want a share of its spoils, unlike the canadian federation.
There is however a rather strong albertan independence movement as well, I believe. Theyll be the next to go after Quebec.
The US isn't a Federation. Besides, how would any states get a share of the spoils (other than the actual oil)?
Valamyr
June 12th, 2005, 02:25 AM
Do you think that Canada will survive if Quebec goes?
In a substantially altered form politically, but yes, I do.
As for the USA, true, not technically a federation. I might have spoken hastily, but are Natural Ressources an entirely state-competance field in the US? I could have sworn the federal government had much more power on them than in Canada. Hence having to share the spoils.
DominusNovus
June 12th, 2005, 02:50 AM
As for the USA, true, not technically a federation. I might have spoken hastily, but are Natural Ressources an entirely state-competance field in the US? I could have sworn the federal government had much more power on them than in Canada. Hence having to share the spoils.
Natural Resources belong to whomever happens to own them. Odds are, it'll be a corporation. It'll probably sell the resources as it wishes.
Remember, unlike Canadians, Americans believe in capitalism. :cool:
simonbp
June 12th, 2005, 03:28 AM
Roughly 20% of oil used in the US is Canadian (about equal to Saudi Arabia), as is about 80% of the natural gas...
Simon ;)
Wendell
June 12th, 2005, 04:00 AM
In a substantially altered form politically, but yes, I do.
As for the USA, true, not technically a federation. I might have spoken hastily, but are Natural Ressources an entirely state-competance field in the US? I could have sworn the federal government had much more power on them than in Canada. Hence having to share the spoils.
It might depend on the resource, but the private sector is involved as well. Also, the legitimacy of Federal involvement in resources could be questioned.
fortyseven
June 15th, 2005, 03:52 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_sands
Wiggy
June 20th, 2005, 07:52 PM
MASSIVE reserve of oil either in one of the Western provinces
Hmm. You must be from Onatrio.
What happens next-especially if the oil is in Quebec province and there is a successful movement for independance from Canada?
Well, seeing as I find it hard to imagine that Quebec would be so generous as to be making transfer payments to Ontario, they're probably long gone with their own country, because money is the great enabler. Then the French will drop in to meddle. And the U.S. wil suck up to oil-rich Quebec big time. Strange politics.
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