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Zacoftheaxes
August 4th, 2010, 10:50 PM
I have not seen a thread like this in a while, So let's make one.
This one will have three rules:
One election per post
Wait at least two posts before going again
Don't skip into the future, go in order.
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy (R)
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
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2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
When we finish we can do defeated tickets.
King Nazar
August 4th, 2010, 11:07 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy (R)
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith (R)
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
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2012:
2016:
2020:
Polish Eagle
August 4th, 2010, 11:11 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy (R)
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith (R)
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide*)
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
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2020:
OOC: I'm not quite sure. I'm certain it's possible for POTUS and VPOTUS to be from different platforms, if the Senate, I believe, breaks a tie. Can someone clarify/fix this?
RogueBeaver
August 4th, 2010, 11:12 PM
OOC/PE: Yes, it's possible. I had a Nixon/RFK '68 team once. It worked out better than most would think.
1972: Robert Kennedy/Carl Sanders
Zacoftheaxes
August 4th, 2010, 11:15 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy (R)
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith (R)
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
What happened to Nixon? if he died, put the year of his death in there too.
And yes, Polish Eagle, that can happen.
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Robert Kennedy/Carl Sanders
1976: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
John Fredrick Parker
August 4th, 2010, 11:16 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
TNF
August 4th, 2010, 11:18 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
RandomIdeaGuy
August 4th, 2010, 11:18 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Emperor Norton I
August 4th, 2010, 11:19 PM
EDIT: Drat
Zacoftheaxes
August 4th, 2010, 11:20 PM
RIG and Norton, you're a little late.
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
King Nazar
August 4th, 2010, 11:22 PM
What happened to Nixon? if he died, put the year of his death in there too.
Yep, curse of tippecanoe srikes Nixon in October 1963.
John Fredrick Parker
August 4th, 2010, 11:23 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Emperor Norton I
August 4th, 2010, 11:24 PM
RIG and Norton, you're a little late.
I already edited my Drat.
Zacoftheaxes
August 4th, 2010, 11:25 PM
Let's not split into two timelines here. :p
RandomIdeaGuy
August 4th, 2010, 11:25 PM
RIG and Norton, you're a little late.
Mine should be legitimate. It directly follows TNFs. Why did you ignore it?
Zacoftheaxes
August 4th, 2010, 11:25 PM
Mine should be legitimate. It directly follows TNFs. Why did you ignore it?
It wasn't before. Must have edited it.
RandomIdeaGuy
August 4th, 2010, 11:27 PM
It wasn't before. Must have edited it.
I edited two seconds after I posted.
Then you posted TWO MINUTES later saying it was invalid.
Anyways, to add to this:
Richard Nixon died in 1963, and RFK died in 1970.
Zacoftheaxes
August 4th, 2010, 11:30 PM
I edited two seconds after I posted.
Then you posted TWO MINUTES later saying it was invalid.
Anyways, to add to this:
Richard Nixon died in 1963, and RFK died in 1970.
My computer is slow. Sorry.
We can split into two divergent then, sorry for the confusion.
Timeline one:
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Timeline two:
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
TheMann
August 5th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Timeline two:
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
OOC: Walter Reuther would be 81 in 1988, so I had him die in office in 1990 at the age of 83. Hart takes over then.
Emperor Norton I
August 5th, 2010, 12:06 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
TNF
August 5th, 2010, 12:08 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
John Fredrick Parker
August 5th, 2010, 12:11 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000: Al Gore/John Kerry
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 12:15 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000: Al Gore/John Kerry
2004: George Allen/Mitt Romney
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
King Nazar
August 5th, 2010, 12:20 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000: Al Gore/John Kerry
2004: George Allen/Mitt Romney
2008: Hillary Rodham/ Tom Vilsack
2012:
2016:
2020:
Underboss_3
August 5th, 2010, 12:29 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000: Al Gore/John Kerry
2004: George Allen/Mitt Romney
2008: Hillary Rodham/ Tom Vilsack
2012: Rick Perry/ "Bobby" Jindal
2016:
2020:
RogueBeaver
August 5th, 2010, 12:31 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000: Al Gore/John Kerry
2004: George Allen/Mitt Romney
2008: Hillary Rodham/ Tom Vilsack
2012: Rick Perry/ "Bobby" Jindal
2016: "Bobby" Jindal/Marco Rubio
2020:
TheMann
August 5th, 2010, 12:32 AM
[QUOTE=Underboss_3;3494118]1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000: Al Gore/John Kerry
2004: George Allen/Mitt Romney
2008: Hillary Rodham/ Tom Vilsack
2012: Rick Perry/ "Bobby" Jindal
2016: Antonio Villaraigosa / Howard Dean
2020:
Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 12:32 AM
Just to get timeline one going again...
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
OOC: William Miller died 1983 IOTL...
RandomIdeaGuy
August 5th, 2010, 12:53 AM
So are we going to make a TL after the list is finished? Or are we just arbitrarily filling up a list?
Emperor Norton I
August 5th, 2010, 12:54 AM
I suspect arbitrarily-ness.
RandomIdeaGuy
August 5th, 2010, 12:56 AM
I suspect arbitrarily-ness.
Aw man, and here I wanted to see someone do an President Edward Nixon TL. :(
TheMann
August 5th, 2010, 01:04 AM
Aw man, and here I wanted to see someone do an President Edward Nixon TL. :(
Can you see President Harvey Milk? Or President Walter Reuther?
King Nazar
August 5th, 2010, 01:09 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
West Ham
August 5th, 2010, 01:37 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 01:38 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Zacoftheaxes
August 5th, 2010, 02:04 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
If you guys want to work a timeline with one of these two, we can do that.
King Nazar
August 5th, 2010, 05:11 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2004: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
RandomIdeaGuy
August 5th, 2010, 05:18 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1970: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Edward Nixon/Gerald Ford
1988: Walter Reuther/Gary Hart
1990: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1992: Gary Hart/John Glenn
1996: Harvey Milk/Mario Cuomo
2000: Al Gore/John Kerry
2004: George Allen/Mitt Romney
2008: Hillary Rodham/ Tom Vilsack
2012: Rick Perry/ "Bobby" Jindal
2016: Antonio Villaraigosa / Howard Dean
2020: Kanye West/Sarah Palin
What? I blame butterflies!
Emperor Norton I
August 5th, 2010, 05:19 AM
Can I make one of these threads when it's done?
Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 05:20 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2004: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2008: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2012:
2016:
2020:
Emperor Norton I
August 5th, 2010, 05:23 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2004: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2008: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2012: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2016:
2020:
Zacoftheaxes
August 5th, 2010, 06:16 AM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2004: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2008: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2012: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2016: Gary Johnson/Terry Branstad
2020:
Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 06:56 PM
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2004: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2008: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2012: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2016: Gary Johnson/Terry Branstad
2020:
That there looks like it could be an interesting TL... not quite as weird as the other, but a good narrative looking to be told.
Zacoftheaxes
August 5th, 2010, 08:09 PM
That there looks like it could be an interesting TL... not quite as weird as the other, but a good narrative looking to be told.
I'd actually like to go to this timeline for a vacation.
Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 08:22 PM
I'd actually like to go to this timeline for a vacation.
:D Hell, as a conservative, I'd like to live there right about now.
Emperor Norton I
August 5th, 2010, 09:43 PM
I'm doin' it.
1960: Richard Nixon/Neil H. McElroy
1963: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1964: Neil H. McElroy/Margaret C. Smith
1968: Robert Kennedy/Ronald Reagan (VP slot thrown to Congress to decide)
1972: Ronald Reagan/William E. Miller
1976: Ronald Reagan/Willaim E. Miller
1980: Walter Reuther/Adlai Stevenson III
1984: Willaim E. Miller/ George Bush
1986: George Bush/Dick Thornburgh
1988: George Bush/ Alexander Haig
1992: Jerry Brown/Joe Biden
1996: George Deukmejian/Henry R. Perot
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2004: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman
2008: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2012: W. Milton Romney/Neil Bush
2016: Gary Johnson/Terry Branstad
2020: Gary Johnson/Terry Branstad
RandomIdeaGuy
August 5th, 2010, 09:46 PM
So out of 60 years, the Democrats only served 18 of them ITTL?
Talk about a wank. ;)
TNF
August 5th, 2010, 10:40 PM
Can we make this thread into a continual sort of thing? Like, with restarting it every time we get to 2020?
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
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Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 11:06 PM
So out of 60 years, the Democrats only served 18 of them ITTL?
Talk about a wank. ;)
Meh, don't know. IOTL you had a 28 of the past 40 years with Republicans in the White House as of 2008. That's 70%, the same as the average ITTL even if you bunch the Independent Johnson administration in with the Republicans. And that's with the biggest scandal of the period (IOTL) one directly concerning a Republican President!
Hell, make Obama a one termer (very plausible) and re-elect the Republican that follows him (not inconceivable) and you have a reasonable chance at 36 of 52 years IOTL governed by the GOP... Are we living in a Republican wank, because it sure hasn't felt like it these past 18 months or so...
So there is a narrative for that timeline that sees Republican control of the Presidency without going ASB. Reagan revolutionizes the conservative movement. Reuther is the new hope for the left, but his socialist beliefs turn the people off of Democrats. Brown reinvents the party with his fiscal conservative beliefs and offbeat personality, but far left social ideas make him a one term president. Biden becomes the next standard bearer for the New Democrats, but loses the support of the people in an economic recession....
Brian Roastbeef
August 5th, 2010, 11:08 PM
Can we make this thread into a continual sort of thing? Like, with restarting it every time we get to 2020?
Hmm... Take this, for something a little different... :p
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
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Emperor Norton I
August 6th, 2010, 12:03 AM
Hmm... Take this, for something a little different... :p
So we have a man who's too experienced (President Grandpa) with a man currently too inexperienced. It's like the 2008 election all over again.*
*forum reaction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYT8-Ny9ELA&feature=related)
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
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TNF
August 6th, 2010, 12:10 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
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West Ham
August 6th, 2010, 12:15 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
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Emperor Norton I
August 6th, 2010, 12:17 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
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TNF
August 6th, 2010, 12:18 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
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King Nazar
August 6th, 2010, 12:23 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
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West Ham
August 6th, 2010, 01:14 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
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Emperor Norton I
August 6th, 2010, 01:30 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
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RandomIdeaGuy
August 6th, 2010, 01:32 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
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Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:03 AM
:D Hell, as a conservative, I'd like to live there right about now.
I'd love to live in a timeline where Johnson, Reagan, and Miller have been in the White House (And Eisenhower before the POD too). But I'm not sure how things would be after Biden and Romney.
Anyways:
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
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RCAF Brat
August 6th, 2010, 02:09 AM
I'd love to live in a timeline where Johnson, Reagan, and Miller have been in the White House (And Eisenhower before the POD too). But I'm not sure how things would be after Biden and Romney.
Anyways:
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008:
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So Clinton and Kerry are Republicans ITTL? I guess that someone has decided to let the butterflies out to play...
Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:10 AM
So Clinton and Kerry are Republicans ITTL?
Not that unbelievable. Clinton is a centrist and with a different Vietnam Kerry's opinions could be different.
Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 02:11 AM
I'd love to live in a timeline where Johnson, Reagan, and Miller have been in the White House (And Eisenhower before the POD too). But I'm not sure how things would be after Biden and Romney.
Things would be okay under Mitt. Things will be okay under Mitt. ;)
And to me Biden has always seemed to have lucid moments. Of course, the Obama administration uses him as a boob and scapegoat. ITTL, I could see Biden being a reasonable New Democrat. After all, he'd have come up as Reagan and Miller were shaping the country. To thrive then and succeed afterward, would mean having some respectable values.
Are Clinton and Kerry meant to be listed up there as Republicans?
EDIT: Okay then, fair enough.
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008: John Kerry/Piyush Jindal
2012:
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There's a pairing you don't see every day...
TNF
August 6th, 2010, 02:14 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008: John Kerry/Piyush Jindal
2012: Eliot Spitzer/Nancy Sinatra
2016:
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Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:15 AM
Things would be okay under Mitt. Things will be okay under Mitt. ;)
And to me Biden has always seemed to have lucid moments. Of course, the Obama administration uses him as a boob and scapegoat. ITTL, I could see Biden being a reasonable New Democrat. After all, he'd have come up as Reagan and Miller were shaping the country. To thrive then and succeed afterward, would mean having some respectable values.
Are Clinton and Kerry meant to be listed up there as Republicans?
Mitt's too much of a populist for me. I'd rather have Gary "Badass" Johnson. :D
Fun Fact: If it wasn't 10 pm I could walk to Miller's house.
And yeah, Clinton and Kerry are Republicans. It's been done before, individually.
Progressive Populist
August 6th, 2010, 02:18 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008: John Kerry/Piyush Jindal
2012: Eliot Spitzer/Nancy Sinatra
2016: Elliot Spitzer/ Nancy Sinatra
2020:
Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:22 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008: John Kerry/Piyush Jindal
2012: Eliot Spitzer/Nancy Sinatra
2016: Elliot Spitzer/ Nancy Sinatra
2020: Mike Church/Dave Mustaine
Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 02:22 AM
Mitt's too much of a populist for me. I'd rather have Gary "Badass" Johnson. :D
Fun Fact: If it wasn't 10 pm I could walk to Miller's house.
And yeah, Clinton and Kerry are Republicans. It's been done before, individually.
Cool. Is that in Lockport? I'm in upstate NY also... closer to Syracuse though.
Never thought of Mitt as too much of a populist; not with Palin out there.
Anyway, to finish this off and keep this post on topic:
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008: John Kerry/Piyush Jindal
2012: Eliot Spitzer/Nancy Sinatra
2016: Elliot Spitzer/ Nancy Sinatra
2020: Dale Earnhardt, Jr./Michele Bachman
Aww, just inched in under me... This TL was weird anyway. :p
RCAF Brat
August 6th, 2010, 02:26 AM
1960: Adlai Stevenson / John Kennedy
1964: Thomas Dewey / George Romney
1968: John Kennedy/ Carl Sanders
1972: John Kennedy / Carl Sanders
1976: Carl Sanders / Frank Church
1980: Barry Goldwater/George Bush
1984: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1988: Ron Dellums / Jimmy Carter
1992: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
1996: Clint Eastwood / Colin Powell (American Party)
2000: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2004: Bill Clinton/John Kerry
2008: John Kerry/Piyush Jindal
2012: Eliot Spitzer/Nancy Sinatra
2016: Elliot Spitzer/ Nancy Sinatra
2020: Chelsea Clinton/Mike Hukabee
Bugger. Two minutes and I get ninja'd.
Emperor Norton I
August 6th, 2010, 02:28 AM
When we do a new one of these, can we go before 1960? I wanted to do on from 1880 to today before I knew we were gonna keep the same thread.
Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:29 AM
We've got three weird endings to one crazy timeline.
Next one:
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
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Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:30 AM
When we do a new one of these, can we go before 1960? I wanted to do on from 1880 to today before I knew we were gonna keep the same thread.
Go ahead and start one with another date in here. Better to keep it all in one thread.
Cool. Is that in Lockport? I'm in upstate NY also... closer to Syracuse though.
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Yeah, living here gives me an excuse for putting him in timelines. :D
Emperor Norton I
August 6th, 2010, 02:32 AM
Go ahead and start one with another date in here. Better to keep it all in one thread.
After this one or concurrently with it?
Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:33 AM
After this one or concurrently with it?
Either one works.
Emperor Norton I
August 6th, 2010, 02:36 AM
Ok
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1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
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Norton's timeline
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1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
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anon_user
August 6th, 2010, 02:42 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
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Norton's timeline:
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
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King Nazar
August 6th, 2010, 02:42 AM
Edit: removed
King Nazar
August 6th, 2010, 02:43 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
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RogueBeaver
August 6th, 2010, 02:45 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
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Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 02:46 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
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Zacoftheaxes
August 6th, 2010, 02:47 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
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1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
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RogueBeaver
August 6th, 2010, 02:48 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar
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Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 02:49 AM
Keeping this one active (good idea, I was going to propose starting in 1940... :))
Norton's timeline:
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
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anon_user
August 6th, 2010, 02:49 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
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1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
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Tim Thomason
August 6th, 2010, 02:50 AM
Norton's timeline:
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Adlai E. Stevenson I/William Jennings Bryan
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Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 02:52 AM
Somebody call Crosstime Traffic and straighten this out, we have some splitting timelines here. :p
RogueBeaver
August 6th, 2010, 02:55 AM
Norton's timeline:
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Adlai E. Stevenson I
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
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King Nazar
August 6th, 2010, 04:10 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Adlai E. Stevenson I
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
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Tim Thomason
August 6th, 2010, 04:44 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Adlai E. Stevenson I
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
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Note: Frye died during the election, and Roosevelt never named a successor.
anon_user
August 6th, 2010, 05:19 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
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What about the other timeline?
Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 05:38 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
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dilbert719
August 6th, 2010, 05:40 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
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Tim Thomason
August 6th, 2010, 08:09 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
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anon_user
August 6th, 2010, 11:02 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
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1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
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Han
August 6th, 2010, 02:17 PM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
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1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936:
1940:
1944:
1948:
1952:
1956:
1960:
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
TNF
August 6th, 2010, 04:30 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis (Socialist)
1940:
1944:
1948:
1952:
1956:
1960:
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
RogueBeaver
August 6th, 2010, 04:39 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis (Socialist)
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944:
1948:
1952:
1956:
1960:
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
West Ham
August 6th, 2010, 06:01 PM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
King Nazar
August 6th, 2010, 07:13 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis (Socialist)
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948:
1952:
1956:
1960:
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
TNF
August 6th, 2010, 07:55 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952:
1956:
1960:
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
RogueBeaver
August 6th, 2010, 08:02 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956:
1960:
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Very much like the new User Title, RB... actually a bit jealous that I never thought to claim it myself. :cool:
Anyway, lets give ol' Gangbuster a second term.
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960:
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
King Nazar
August 6th, 2010, 08:25 PM
No 22nd Amendment
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964:
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
Tim Thomason
August 6th, 2010, 08:38 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
Brian Roastbeef
August 6th, 2010, 08:45 PM
Yeah, what the hell...
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
OOC: whoever goes next, just take note that Dewey died 1971, IOTL.
King Nazar
August 6th, 2010, 09:22 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
West Ham
August 6th, 2010, 09:24 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
anon_user
August 6th, 2010, 09:43 PM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
the second 1978 is a suggestion
Going back to the other timeline...
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Tim Thomason
August 7th, 2010, 03:51 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur[/COLOR]
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
King Nazar
August 7th, 2010, 03:57 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur[/COLOR]
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
Whanztastic
August 7th, 2010, 04:01 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 7th, 2010, 04:02 AM
Going next.
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 7th, 2010, 04:05 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
RogueBeaver
August 7th, 2010, 04:10 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / L. Douglas Wilder
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
RandomIdeaGuy
August 7th, 2010, 04:13 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / L. Douglas Wilder
1996: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
Tim Thomason
August 7th, 2010, 04:15 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / L. Douglas Wilder
1996: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1997: L. Douglas Wilder/Lloyd Bentsen (special election; after election fraud and recount)
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
Tim Thomason
August 7th, 2010, 04:20 AM
ETA: nm, was based on RogueBeaver's now-deleted JFK, Jr. presidency.
ETA: never-never-mind, here's what I posted, that I'm re-posting. RogueBeaver posted a "John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Clinton" for 2000 but deleted it for some reason. But then later approved:
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / L. Douglas Wilder
1996: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1997: L. Douglas Wilder/Lloyd Bentsen (special election; after election fraud and recount)
2000: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2004: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2008:
2012:
King Nazar
August 7th, 2010, 04:20 AM
Edit: Removed
King Nazar
August 7th, 2010, 04:22 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / L. Douglas Wilder
1996: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1997: L. Douglas Wilder/Lloyd Bentsen (special election; after election fraud and recount)
2000: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2004: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2008: John F. Kennedy, Jr / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2012:
RogueBeaver
August 7th, 2010, 04:24 AM
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / L. Douglas Wilder
1996: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1997: L. Douglas Wilder/Lloyd Bentsen (special election; after election fraud and recount)
2000: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2004: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2008: John F. Kennedy, Jr / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2012: John F. Kennedy, Jr/ Hillary Rodham Clinton
OOC: Mission Accomplished, RTB. :cool:
Tim Thomason
August 7th, 2010, 04:24 AM
Okay, lots of confusion. I'll edit my post above, but I wasn't double-posting, in case anyone's confused.
RandomIdeaGuy
August 7th, 2010, 04:26 AM
Oh, so you guys want to play like that, huh?
1880: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1884: James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur
1888: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1892: Thomas Bayard/William Rosecrans
1896: James Weaver/Benjamin Harrison
1900: William Jennings Bryan/Thomas Watson
1904: Elihu Root/Mark Hanna
1908: George Gray/John Albert Johnson
1912: Theodore Roosevelt/William P. Frye
1916: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1924: Robert LaFollette/Charles Evans Hughes
1928: Herbert Hoover/Josephus Daniels
1932: Al Smith/John Nance Garner
1936: Upton Sinclair / John L. Lewis
1940: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1944: Joseph P. Kennedy/ Harry Truman
1948: Henry Wallace / Jeanette Rankin
1952: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon (Conservative)
1956: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1960: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1964: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1968: Thomas Dewey/ Richard Nixon
1971: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1972: Richard Nixon/ Pete McCoskey
1973: Gen. James Stevenson (Military Coup)
1978: Adm. Eldo Zumwalt/Gen. Creighton Abrams (junta; ousted Stevenson)
1978: Jimmy Carter/John Eisenhower (won special election set up by the Zumwalt Junta)
1980: Jimmy Carter/ John Eisenhower
1984: Clint Eastwood/Richard M. Daley
1988: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1992: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. / L. Douglas Wilder
1996: Martin L. King Jr./Michael Dukakis
1997: L. Douglas Wilder/Lloyd Bentsen (special election; after election fraud and recount)
2000: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2004: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2008: John F. Kennedy, Jr / Hillary Rodham Clinton
2012: John F. Kennedy, Jr/ Hillary Rodham Clinton
2012: Sarah Palin/Ben Gleck (JFK and Hillary killed in two days because I don't like the election results)
Tim Thomason
August 7th, 2010, 04:32 AM
Well, in my opinion, RFK, Jr. did something wrong (or something bad happened) to not run for re-electin in 1996. But the the Martin L. King election fraud fiasco ruined the Republican/Conservative Party enough that the (Democrats?) got a free-ride for a couple election cycles. I'm guessing Wilder and Bentsen didn't run in 2000.
Would JFK, Jr. and RFK, Jr. be known as "Jr.'s" in this timeline? Whatever happened to their fathers was likely less-important than them achieving the Presidency.
WestVirginiaRebel
August 7th, 2010, 04:32 AM
1952: Thomas Dewey/Dwight D. Eisenhower
1956: Estes Keefauver/John F. Kennedy
1960: Richard M. Nixon/Barry Goldwater
1964: Richard M. Nixon/Barry Goldwater
1968: Eugene McCarthy/George S. McGovern
1970: Robert S. McNamara (military coup?)
1972: Carl Albert/Howard Baker (special election voted on in the Senate.)
1976: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole
1980: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole
1984: Gary Hart/Jimmy Carter
1988: George H.W. Bush/Jack Kemp
1992: Paul Tsongas/Al Gore
1996: Al Gore/John Kerry
2000: John McCain/George W. Bush
2004: John McCain/George W. Bush
2008: William Jefferson Clinton/Barack Obama
Note: Party colors are switched after 2000 as per OTL).
Brian Roastbeef
August 7th, 2010, 04:33 AM
Wow. That one got weird... How about adding a twist for the next one - do it bass-ackwards
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016:
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RandomIdeaGuy
August 7th, 2010, 04:35 AM
How do non-consecutive terms equate to election fraud? Remember Grover Cleveland?
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 7th, 2010, 04:40 AM
EDIT: MLK/MD Ticket was Democrat, I accidentally put them as Republican.
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 7th, 2010, 04:46 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal*
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeu
2012:
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*Rudy won the 2020 Election, but passed away before his second inauguration.
Whanztastic
August 7th, 2010, 04:48 AM
I like this idea!
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2012:
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EDIT: Doh! two at once or should I delete?
Brian Roastbeef
August 7th, 2010, 05:00 AM
I like this idea!
EDIT: Doh! two at once or should I delete?
How about moving yours back so both are included?
Its up to you, I've added for 2008, but I'll give you the option for 2012, if you don't want your picks in there for some reason.
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004:
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Whanztastic
August 7th, 2010, 05:03 AM
How about moving yours back so both are included?
Its up to you, I've added for 2008, but I'll give you the option for 2012, if you don't want your picks in there for some reason.
That works for me!
EDIT: Deleted post to follow rules
WestVirginiaRebel
August 7th, 2010, 08:35 AM
2024: Scott Brown/Nikki Haley
2020: Robin Carnahan/Corey Booker
2016: John Thune/Bobby Jindal
2012: Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama
2008: Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama
2004: John McCain/George W. Bush
2000: John McCain/George W. Bush
anon_user
August 7th, 2010, 01:15 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000:
1996:
1992:
1988:
1984:
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1976:
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What happened with the other timeline, where my last move was 2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland?
Whanztastic
August 7th, 2010, 03:14 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996:
1992:
1988:
1984:
1980:
1976:
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West Ham
August 7th, 2010, 04:58 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992:
1988:
1984:
1980:
1976:
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anon_user
August 7th, 2010, 04:58 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988:
1984:
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Zacoftheaxes
August 8th, 2010, 07:33 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984:
1980:
1976:
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Whanztastic
August 8th, 2010, 08:16 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980:
1976:
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West Ham
August 8th, 2010, 09:25 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976:
1972:
1964:
1960:
1956:
1952:
1948:
1944:
1940:
Brian Roastbeef
August 8th, 2010, 10:44 PM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1972:
1964:
1960:
1956:
1952:
1948:
1944:
1940:
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/images/buttons/quote.gif (http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3504828)
anon_user
August 9th, 2010, 12:44 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972:
1964:
1960:
1956:
1952:
1948:
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1940:
Whanztastic
August 9th, 2010, 01:11 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lydon B. Johnson
1964:
1960:
1956:
1952:
1948:
1944:
1940:
RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 01:12 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964:
1960:
1956:
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1948:
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OOC: Jesus H. Christ. You sure do like your decibels, don't you Whanz? ;)
anon_user
August 9th, 2010, 01:17 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1960:
1956:
1952:
1948:
1944:
1940:
RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 01:18 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1960: Nelson Rockefeller/ Prescott Bush
1956:
1952:
1948:
1944:
1940:
anon_user
August 9th, 2010, 01:22 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1960: Nelson Rockefeller/ Prescott Bush
1956: Nelson Rockefeller / Theodore McKeldin
1952:
1948:
1944:
1940:
RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 01:23 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1960: Nelson Rockefeller/ Prescott Bush
1956: Nelson Rockefeller / Theodore McKeldin
1952: Robert Taft/ Nelson Rockefeller
1948:
1944:
1940:
anon_user
August 9th, 2010, 01:29 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1960: Nelson Rockefeller/ Prescott Bush
1956: Nelson Rockefeller / Theodore McKeldin
1952: Robert Taft/ Nelson Rockefeller
1948: Fiorello LaGuardia / Earl Warren
1944:
1940:
Lots of intraparty conflict in this world, particularly in the GOP
RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 01:30 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1960: Nelson Rockefeller/ Prescott Bush
1956: Nelson Rockefeller / Theodore McKeldin
1952: Robert Taft/ Nelson Rockefeller
1948: Fiorello LaGuardia / Earl Warren
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Joseph P. Kennedy
1940:
anon_user
August 9th, 2010, 01:35 AM
2020: David Petraeus / Bobby Jindal
2016: Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani / David Petraeus
2012: Jay Nixon / Bill Nelson
2008: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2004: John Huntsman, Jr. / J. E. "Jeb" Bush
2000: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1996: Patricia "Pat" Schroeder / Bruce Babbitt
1992: Anne Richards/Patricia "Pat" Schroeder
1988: George H.W. Bush/Julie Nixon-Eisenhower
1984: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1980: John Anderson / George H.W. Bush
1976: Ronald Reagan / John Anderson
1974: Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan
1972: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1968: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Robert F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson
1960: Nelson Rockefeller/ Prescott Bush
1956: Nelson Rockefeller / Theodore McKeldin
1952: Robert Taft/ Nelson Rockefeller
1948: Fiorello LaGuardia / Earl Warren
1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.
1940: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Henry Wallace
And here I thought we were going to go with Willkie.
Mind finishing this timeline?
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/images/misc/progress.gif
Brian Roastbeef
August 9th, 2010, 02:46 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004: Dan Coats / Gary Bauer
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/images/misc/progress.gif
Eh? Spinning circle thing for President in 2020?
Whanztastic
August 9th, 2010, 03:30 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004: Dan Coats / Gary Bauer
2008: Rod Blagojevich / Jennifer Granholm
2012:
2016:
2020:
:D
RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 03:34 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004: Dan Coats / Gary Bauer
2008: Rod Blagojevich / Jennifer Granholm
2012: Bobby Jindal/John Thune
2016:
2020:
Zacoftheaxes
August 9th, 2010, 04:18 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004: Dan Coats / Gary Bauer
2008: Rod Blagojevich / Jennifer Granholm
2012: Bobby Jindal/John Thune
2016: Bobby Jindal/John Thune
2020:
This should be a full timeline.
RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 04:45 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004: Dan Coats / Gary Bauer
2008: Rod Blagojevich / Jennifer Granholm
2012: Bobby Jindal/John Thune
2016: Bobby Jindal/John Thune
2020: Marco Rubio/Paul Ryan
GreatScottMarty
August 9th, 2010, 07:12 AM
1960: Harold Stassen/Lyndon B. Johnson
1964: Harold Stassen/Margaret Chase Smith
1965: Margaret Chase Smith/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1968: George McGovern/ Eugene McCarthy
1972: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1976: Ronald Reagan/ John Tower
1980: Robert F Kennedy/Nancy Reagan
1981: George H.W. Bush/Richard Lugar [Kennedy & Reagan died in a plane crash; Speaker Bush takes over]
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1988: William Milliken/Pete Wilson
1992: Jerry Brown/Cecil Andrus
1996: Pete Wilson/Carroll Campbell
2000: Pete Wilson/Lou Dobbs (Campbell steps off the ticket for health reasons)
2003: Lou Dobbs/John Rowland (Wilson resigns)
2004: Dan Coats / Gary Bauer
2008: Rod Blagojevich / Jennifer Granholm
2012: Bobby Jindal/John Thune
2016: Bobby Jindal/John Thune
2020: Marco Rubio/Paul Ryan
Jennifer Granholm is a Canadian
West Ham
August 9th, 2010, 03:56 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
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RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 03:57 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
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OOC: No 25th Amendment until 1967, so no filling VP vacancies till the next election.
Whanztastic
August 9th, 2010, 04:39 PM
Jennifer Granholm is a Canadian
Well luckily in 1984 ITTL, the 27th Amendment made it so any citizen could become POTUS or VPOTUS, not just people born as such ;)
Whanztastic
August 9th, 2010, 04:42 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
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RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 05:04 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
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Brian Roastbeef
August 9th, 2010, 05:26 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968:
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OOC: Why are we doing Republicans in red this time around? Are we trying to fool the liberals?
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 9th, 2010, 05:37 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972:
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RED = Republican
ORANGE = Southern Democrat
Brian Roastbeef
August 9th, 2010, 05:52 PM
RED = Republican
ORANGE = Southern DemocratInteresting. I know I really should wait another turn, but this possibility is too good to yield. Feel free to veto, if you have the nerve. :p
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976:
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RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 05:54 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980:
1984:
1988:
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Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 9th, 2010, 06:01 PM
Interesting. I know I really should wait another turn, but this possibility is too good to yield. Feel free to veto, if you have the nerve. :p
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976:
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1984:
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2020:
Interestingly, it would be a perfect match if they were Democrats. Reagan was a Liberal Democrat (he even tried to join the US Socialist Party at one point), up untill 1962. Maybe we can have a president Reagan who never lost faith in the Democratic Party.
West Ham
August 9th, 2010, 07:26 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2003:
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2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
RogueBeaver
August 9th, 2010, 07:57 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2003:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
anon_user
August 9th, 2010, 10:25 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2003:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
The 25th amendment was not passed in this TL, presumably.
Whanztastic
August 10th, 2010, 12:00 AM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992:
1996:
2000:
2003:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Adding to the party confusion
RogueBeaver
August 10th, 2010, 12:08 AM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996:
2000:
2003:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
West Ham
August 10th, 2010, 12:09 AM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000:
2003:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 12:44 AM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Whanztastic
August 10th, 2010, 01:13 AM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003: Dick Gephardt
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
anon_user
August 10th, 2010, 10:57 AM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003: Dick Gephardt
2004: Thad Allen/John Regni/Raymond Odierno [coup]
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
Junta!
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 04:28 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003: Dick Gephardt
2004: Thad Allen/John Regni/Raymond Odierno [coup]
2008: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party)
2012:
2016:
2020:
RogueBeaver
August 10th, 2010, 04:35 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003: Dick Gephardt
2004: Thad Allen/John Regni/Raymond Odierno [coup]
2008: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party)
2012: Kirsten Gillibrand/Brad Ellsworth
2016:
2020:
modelcitizen
August 10th, 2010, 04:58 PM
1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003: Dick Gephardt
2004: Thad Allen/John Regni/Raymond Odierno [coup]
2008: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party)
2012: Kirsten Gillibrand/Brad Ellsworth
2016: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party) (that's right, pulled a Cleveland)
2020:
RogueBeaver
August 10th, 2010, 04:59 PM
[QUOTE=modelcitizen;3509816]1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003: Dick Gephardt
2004: Thad Allen/John Regni/Raymond Odierno [coup]
2008: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party)
2012: Kirsten Gillibrand/Brad Ellsworth
2016: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party) (that's right, pulled a Cleveland)
2020: Bobby Jindal/Marco Rubio
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 05:02 PM
[QUOTE=modelcitizen;3509816]1952: Robert Taft/Everett Dirksen
1953: Everett Dirksen
1956: Everett Dirksen / Gerald Ford
1960: Richard Nixon/ Allan Shivers
1964: Richard Nixon / Allan Shivers
1968: George Wallas / Orval Faubus
1972: Ronald Reagan / John Kennedy
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Kennedy
1980: Scoop Jackson/George McGovern
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Bill Clinton
1987: Bill Clinton
1988: Bill Clinton / Lowell Weicker
1992: Newt Gingrich/ Dick Cheney
1996: Ted Bundy/Arlen Specter (Reform Party)
2000: David Duke/Michelle Bachmann (Nationalist Party)
2003: Dick Gephardt
2004: Thad Allen/John Regni/Raymond Odierno [coup]
2008: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party)
2012: Kirsten Gillibrand/Brad Ellsworth
2016: Bernie Sanders/Micheal Moore (Communist Party) (that's right, pulled a Cleveland)
2020: Bobby Jindal/Marco Rubio
Jindal needs a lot of luck to save that world.
theReturner
August 10th, 2010, 06:25 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy (D)
We can start new now, right?
RogueBeaver
August 10th, 2010, 06:26 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
Han
August 10th, 2010, 06:31 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
RogueBeaver
August 10th, 2010, 06:32 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
West Ham
August 10th, 2010, 06:43 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford/ John Lindsay(R)
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 06:44 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford/Edward M. Kennedy
RogueBeaver
August 10th, 2010, 06:55 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford/Edward M. Kennedy
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen
RandomIdeaGuy
August 10th, 2010, 07:07 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford/Edward M. Kennedy
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 07:12 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford/Edward M. Kennedy
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen
theReturner
August 10th, 2010, 07:16 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
Whanztastic
August 10th, 2010, 07:27 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
West Ham
August 10th, 2010, 07:33 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 07:47 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
2000: George H. W. Bush/ Ted Stevens (R)
Tim Thomason
August 10th, 2010, 07:51 PM
In honor of this thread, I made one of these. Based on the first timeline:
http://a.imageshack.us/img638/4641/zactimeline1.png
Whanztastic
August 10th, 2010, 08:02 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
2000: George H. W. Bush/ Ted Stevens (R)
2004: Howard Dean / Harold Ford, Jr. (D)
RIP Stevens
"They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the Internet. And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes#cite_note-singel-3)
Tim Thomason
August 10th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Oh yeah. RIP Stevens. I can't believe I just learned that on this thread from Whanztastic.
Whanztastic
August 10th, 2010, 09:04 PM
Oh yeah. RIP Stevens. I can't believe I just learned that on this thread from Whanztastic.
News 2.0, I suppose.
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 09:11 PM
In honor of this thread, I made one of these. Based on the first timeline:
Excellent job!
West Ham
August 10th, 2010, 09:14 PM
Tim, what would those boxes on the far right mean on your wiki?
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 09:26 PM
Tim, what would those boxes on the far right mean on your wiki?
I assume he left the VP boxes unedited from whatever portion he got the original screenshot from.
theReturner
August 10th, 2010, 09:45 PM
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
2000: George H. W. Bush/ Ted Stevens (R)
2004: Howard Dean / Harold Ford, Jr. (D)
2008: John Ellis "Jeb" Bush/ Mike D. Huckabee (R)
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 10th, 2010, 09:47 PM
And now, the ULTIMATE list.
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792:
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RandomIdeaGuy
August 10th, 2010, 09:49 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
theReturner
August 10th, 2010, 09:55 PM
We didn't finish the last list yet.:confused:
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 10th, 2010, 09:58 PM
We didn't? Oops. My bad. :p
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
2000: George H. W. Bush/ Ted Stevens (R)
2004: Howard Dean / Harold Ford, Jr. (D)
2008: John Ellis "Jeb" Bush/ Mike D. Huckabee (R)
2012: Barack Obama / Al Sharpton (D)
anon_user
August 10th, 2010, 10:00 PM
First timeline...
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
2000: George H. W. Bush/ Ted Stevens (R)
2004: Howard Dean / Harold Ford, Jr. (D)
2008: John Ellis "Jeb" Bush/ Mike D. Huckabee (R)
2012: Barack Obama / Al Sharpton (D)
2016: Barack Obama / Al Sharpton (D)
Big timeline...
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
Brian Roastbeef
August 10th, 2010, 10:02 PM
In honor of this thread, I made one of these. Based on the first timeline:
Nice one! Good job. :cool:
I still like that timeline.
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 10th, 2010, 10:04 PM
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
RIP George Washington.
On another note, looks like the two term tradition is out the window :p.
West Ham
August 10th, 2010, 10:15 PM
First timeline...
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
2000: George H. W. Bush/ Ted Stevens (R)
2004: Howard Dean / Harold Ford, Jr. (D)
2008: John Ellis "Jeb" Bush/ Mike D. Huckabee (R)
2012: Barack Obama / Al Sharpton (D)
2016: Barack Obama / Al Sharpton (D)
2020: Carly Fiorina/Robert Slade (R)
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 10:17 PM
First timeline...
1960: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: John F. Kennedy/ Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1968: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1972: Ronald W. Reagan/ Gerald R. Ford (R)
1976: Gerald R. Ford (R) /Edward M. Kennedy (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/ Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1988: Edward M. Kennedy/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D)
1992: Richard "Dick" Lugar/ George H.W. Bush (R)
1994: George H.W. Bush / Alan Keyes (R)
1996: Bob Kerrey / Al Gore (D)
2000: George H. W. Bush/ Ted Stevens (R)
2004: Howard Dean / Harold Ford, Jr. (D)
2008: John Ellis "Jeb" Bush/ Mike D. Huckabee (R)
2012: Barack Obama / Al Sharpton (D)
2016: Barack Obama / Al Sharpton (D)
2020: Carly Fiorina/Tim Ryan (R)
Almost feels like a RB timeline.
theReturner
August 10th, 2010, 10:21 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 10:24 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
[/COLOR]1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1802: Francis Marion (Jefferson and Arnold die in a bizarre carriage accident)
Ariosto
August 10th, 2010, 10:24 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
18004: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 10th, 2010, 10:24 PM
I only now realize that in making Hancock the First President, I probably renamed our capital Hancock DC. And Hancock sounds a bit like Hand Cock. No nation would ever take us seriously. :p
18004: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
Time travelors!? :) Awesome.
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 10:26 PM
I only now realize that in making Hancock the First President, I probably renamed our capital Hancock DC. And Hancock sounds a bit like Hand Cock. No nation would ever take us seriously. :p
Butterflies may put the capitol on a peninsula. :p
anon_user
August 10th, 2010, 10:30 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
Incidentally, Francis Marion died in 1795 in OTL.
As for the capital, I imagine that it's probably just called Columbia.
Zacoftheaxes
August 10th, 2010, 10:34 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
Incidentally, Francis Marion died in 1795 in OTL.
As for the capital, I imagine that it's probably just called Columbia.
Benedict Arnold died 1801 OTL.
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 10th, 2010, 10:36 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
Incidentally, Francis Marion died in 1795 in OTL.
As for the capital, I imagine that it's probably just called Columbia.
Benedict Arnold died 1801 OTL.
And Hancock died in 1793.
West Ham
August 10th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Modern Timeline
1948:Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952:
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RandomIdeaGuy
August 10th, 2010, 10:54 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1812: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
John Fredrick Parker
August 10th, 2010, 11:25 PM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independents)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1812: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1816: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 10th, 2010, 11:55 PM
Modern Timeline
1948:Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952:Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956:
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1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1812: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1816: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1820: John Adams / John Q. Adams (Federalist)
RogueBeaver
August 10th, 2010, 11:57 PM
Modern Timeline
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960:
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1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1812: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1816: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1820: John Adams / John Q. Adams (Federalist)
1824: John Q. Adams/ Henry Clay (Federalist)
West Ham
August 11th, 2010, 12:01 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
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John Fredrick Parker
August 11th, 2010, 12:01 AM
Can we start new lists? If so:
1952: Estes Kefauver/Aldai Stevenson (D)
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(PoD for this TL is Mao being crushed years back; butterflies don't reach the US until 1949; also, Nixon lost his 1950 Senate race)
EDIT: Oh, and if there's no objections, I'd like death in office to be limited by Tecumseh's curse -- that's to say, a President can only die mid term if he was elected in a zero year (1960, 1980, 2000 here)
Zacoftheaxes
August 11th, 2010, 12:02 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964:
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RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 12:03 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: John F. Kennedy/ J. Terry Sanford
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John Fredrick Parker
August 11th, 2010, 12:04 AM
[QUOTE=RogueBeaver;3511113]1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968:
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RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 12:07 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1972:
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Alternatehistorybuff5341
August 11th, 2010, 12:19 AM
1948-2020 List
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
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2020:
1952-2008 List
1952: Estes Kefauver/Aldai Stevenson (D)
1956:
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1788-2020 List
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1812: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1816: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1820: John Adams / John Q. Adams (Federalist)
1824:
1828:
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Didn't add anything. This is just the list to go off of, that way, none of them gets left behind and forgotten.
Zacoftheaxes
August 11th, 2010, 12:20 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
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2008:
2012:
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2020:
This thread is pretty Eisenhower and Bush Sr biased. I love it. :D
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 12:21 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
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2020:
modelcitizen
August 11th, 2010, 12:32 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
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2008:
2012:
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2020:
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 12:34 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:
1988:
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2020:
John Fredrick Parker
August 11th, 2010, 12:51 AM
RB -- did something happen to the 22nd amendment?
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 12:52 AM
OOC/JFP: modelcitizen said it was repealed.
Zacoftheaxes
August 11th, 2010, 12:57 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 12:59 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
John Fredrick Parker
August 11th, 2010, 01:01 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
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Also, to AHB, can father and son legally serve on the same ticket?
Zacoftheaxes
August 11th, 2010, 01:09 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
2000:
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 01:12 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
2000: Jeb Bush/Rudy Giuliani
2004:
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
King Nazar
August 11th, 2010, 01:13 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
2000: Jeb Bush/Rudy Giuliani
2004: John Kerry/ Barack Obama
2008:
2012:
2016:
2020:
John Fredrick Parker
August 11th, 2010, 01:19 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
2000: Jeb Bush/Rudy Giuliani
2004: John Kerry/ Barack Obama
2008: Barack Obama/ Joe Biden (citing health concerns, Pres Kerry declines a second term)
2012:
2016:
2020:
RandomIdeaGuy
August 11th, 2010, 01:19 AM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1812: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1816: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1820: John Adams / John Q. Adams (Federalist)
1824: John Q. Adams/ Henry Clay (Federalist)
1828: Andrew Jackson/John Calhoun (Democratic)
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 01:20 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
2000: Jeb Bush/Rudy Giuliani
2004: John Kerry/ Barack Obama
2008: Barack Obama/ Joe Biden (citing health concerns, Pres Kerry declines a second term)
2012: Mitt Romney/ Bobby Jindal
2016:
2020:
John Fredrick Parker
August 11th, 2010, 01:24 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
2000: Jeb Bush/Rudy Giuliani
2004: John Kerry/ Barack Obama
2008: Barack Obama/ Joe Biden (citing health concerns, Pres Kerry declines a second term)
2012: Mitt Romney/ Bobby Jindal
2016: Mitt Romney/ Bobby Jindal
2020:
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 01:26 AM
1948: Harry Truman/Richard Russell, Jr. (Split 1948 election where Dixiecrat senators force Truman to take a segregationist VP)
1952: Walter E. Disney / Harold Stassen
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/John F. Kennedy
1960: Dwight D Eisenhower/ John F. Kennedy
1964: Dwight D Eisenhower/Richard Nixon
1968: Richard Nixon/ George H.W. Bush
1970: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (Nixon assassinated by Samuel Byck.)
1972: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater
1976: George H.W. Bush/Barry Goldwater (22nd amendment repealed 1968)
1980: George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1984:George H.W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
1988: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1992: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
1996: Bill Clinton/ Gary Hart
2000: Jeb Bush/Rudy Giuliani
2004: John Kerry/ Barack Obama
2008: Barack Obama/ Joe Biden (citing health concerns, Pres Kerry declines a second term)
2012: Mitt Romney/ Bobby Jindal
2016: Mitt Romney/ Bobby Jindal
2020: Bobby Jindal/Marco Rubio
Zacoftheaxes
August 11th, 2010, 01:31 AM
1788: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1792: John Hancock / George Washington (Independent)
1796: John Hancock (Federalist) / Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican)
1800:Thomas Jefferson/Benedict Arnold (D-R)
1804: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1808: Benedict Arnold / Thomas Jefferson (D-R)
1812: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1816: Alexander Hamilton/John Adams (Federalist)
1820: John Adams / John Q. Adams (Federalist)
1824: John Q. Adams/ Henry Clay (Federalist)
1828: Andrew Jackson/John Calhoun (Democratic)
1829: John Calhoun (Andrew Jackson is assassinated)
John Fredrick Parker
August 11th, 2010, 01:33 AM
EDIT: Now it's just a repost
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1952: Estes Kefauver/Aldai Stevenson (D)
1956:
1960:
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1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
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(PoD for this TL is Mao being crushed years back; butterflies don't reach the US until 1949; also, Nixon lost his 1950 Senate race)
Oh, and if there's no objections, I'd like death in office to be limited by Tecumseh's curse -- that's to say, a President can only die mid term if he was elected in a zero year (1960, 1980, 2000 here)
RogueBeaver
August 11th, 2010, 01:37 AM
1952: Estes Kefauver/Adlai Stevenson (D)
1956: Estes Kefauver/Adlai Stevenson (D)
1960:
1964:
1972:
1976:
1980:
1984:
1988:
1992:
1996:
2000:
2004:
2008:
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