Mosaic Mars

[Landshark]

As you know ours is one of the few Timelines where there is no permanent presence on Mars.

So what if tired of constantly taking nations from one Alternate Earth and another and combineing them into a new Mosaic Earth a group of ASB's take some of the various civilisations, colonies and expeditions that exist on various Alternate Mars and create a new planet?

[Imajin]

So would this be an inhabitable version of Mars, or a Mars like OTL?

[Diamond]

That's a pretty interesting idea, actually. John Carter vs. Soviet cosmonauts!

[Matt]

I was thinking something along the same lines the other day. Give each player X thousand colonist from a country from a timeline of their choice.

[Othniel]

City-states with instant communcation... a seven city limit, fixed atmosphere and the canali carry water... limit on transport back to earth so it becomes a nonissue. Thus all colonies should be self-suffient. Anybody going to try a few lit tls.... :cool: ?

[Glen]

I would recommend that a roster be started of interested players. If you get enough new players, that are not already involved in ME6 & ME7, then this might be worth pursuing right now. Otherwise, I would wait until one or more games resolve.

It's a good idea. It just seems we have a lot of good ideas but not enough time or players to sustain them.

[Thande]

Might be particularly interesting if you threw in Mars colonies from TLs with ancient world PODs, i.e. colonies of Rome or Pharonic Egypt or Han China, alongside more conventional ones like uber-Cold War U.S. and Soviet, and steampunk British, imperial German, etc. You could even have both steampunk imperial German alongside one of Philip K. Dick's Nazi Mars colonies - THAT would be interesting!

Presumably you'd have to assume tech levels are more or less the same, or else certain colonies will have unfair advantages.

[Landshark]

My thoughts were for a wide selection of options with stuff ranging from near OTL NASAlike outposts set up during the 90's to large scale bases set up by nations that developed space space travel a hundred years or more ago to domed cities belonging to actual Martians.

A few examples.

A British Empire Mars similar to the one from the RPG Space 1889.

A Mithras Mars.

A Mars inhabited by intelligent Saurians from Earth.

An Atlantean Mars.

A Soviet Mars.

A NASA base.

A UN base.

A League of Nations base.

[Lauranthalas]

A League of Nations base.
the LoN was a joke they would never accomplish something like that since no one really cared about them. ;) but ok that's just my opinion

[reformer]

I'd be interested, would a Persian Jewish base be ok (yes, i actually do have a plausible POD)

[Lauranthalas]

I would have an idea for an European Union base

and a terrorist base

[Glen]

I'd be interested, would a Persian Jewish base be ok (yes, i actually do have a plausible POD)

That sounds like an interesting POD/timeline. Of course, I would hope to see you also playing in ME6...

[reformer]

Well, I was gone for a while, and when i got back, ME6 seemed dead, so I'm a little confused. . . I might jump back in, but there's no way i'm reading all the backup posts in europe or africa.

Are we going through with this Mars idea?

[Leej]

You'd need definate rules and the like this time. Mosaic earth has been pretty sucky for some time due to a lack of these.

[Imajin]

You'd need definate rules and the like this time. Mosaic earth has been pretty sucky for some time due to a lack of these.
I wouldn't call Mosaic Earth 'sucky'...

Of course, the existance of the two MEs will mean that any MM should probably wait until one dies off (and with what's happening, it may be ME7 that dies!)

[Glen]

Well, I was gone for a while, and when i got back, ME6 seemed dead, so I'm a little confused. . . I might jump back in, but there's no way i'm reading all the backup posts in europe or africa.

Are we going through with this Mars idea?

ME6 is alive.

Europe is still recovering overall from the biowar plague which killed about 20% in France, 15% in Lorraine and Iberia, 10% in Germany, and about 5% in several other European nations.

The UK has a new king and an old PM, Charles died in France during the plague and now his son Prince William rules as King Arthur. A healthier ATL Baroness Thatcher has been called back into service as Prime Minister.

There is a large alliance in Europe, the GDI, composed of the fused NATO and NEC, which as of now is comprised of the USA, UK, Greater France, Germany, Poland, The Greek Republic, and Zaire. Greater France, the Iberic Union, Brazil, and Zaire are also members of CATU, mostly a free trade alliance.

In Africa, Egypt has successfully pulled out of Ethiopia and is growing closer to Persia and its Central Asian alliance, WATO. Multinational forces remain in Eritrea though there has been a Zaire brokered agreement between the rebels and the government. Eritrea and Southern Ethiopia are serving as 'experimental' capitalist trade areas. Nigeria is a Greater French Protectorate, Namibia is a Zairean Protectorate.

Indonesia has been mostly partitioned and is under the 'guidance' of several of the world powers, though there was some fighting to get it that way.

India is fractured into several regions. Malasia is an independent nation with ties to Japan. Ceylon and Southern India are being reorganized with help from the UK and CATU. There is a Free State of Gorkha that is sort of a greater Nepal ruled by Gurkhas and British officers. Baluchistan is a Persian/WATO protectorate as are several of the West Chinese and Tibetan areas. New London and surrounding areas are occupied by GDI and Japanese forces.

The Americas has Brazil trying to get economic footholds in Asia and Africa, rather successfully for the most part. Gran Columbia tried to take Mexico when the US pulled out during the biowar, but a surprisingly aggressive air defense by the Mexicans and the return of US/GDI troops to the region aborted that effort.

Everyone seems to be ramping up production of weapons and suspect a 'Cold War' will begin.

Does that help?

[Glen]

I wouldn't call Mosaic Earth 'sucky'...

Of course, the existance of the two MEs will mean that any MM should probably wait until one dies off (and with what's happening, it may be ME7 that dies!)

I think that ME7 has only begun to fight!

The Imperials may or may not have been disruptive to the whole game (it certainly was to some aspects of the game), but they are about to suffer an 'unfortunate' accident, leaving lots of loot and weaponry for the taking if one is bold enough. Europe seems to be finally moving, though towards war it would seem. Too bad we still haven't had an Africa conference....

[Imajin]

I think that ME7 has only begun to fight!

The Imperials may or may not have been disruptive to the whole game (it certainly was to some aspects of the game), but they are about to suffer an 'unfortunate' accident, leaving lots of loot and weaponry for the taking if one is bold enough. Europe seems to be finally moving, though towards war it would seem. Too bad we still haven't had an Africa conference....
Well, it's certainly going slow... And the problem with an Africa Conference is that 2/3s of it are independent powers, and much of the rest are ISOTed colonies (Lybia, Egypt, Nubia), and whatever's left is becoming Drakan, it seems.
And Europe isn't just moving towards war, it's in war, with the Karelia v. Skandistan and Prussia v. Oldenburg v. Skandistan.... (Everyone is ganging up on Oldenburg- I'm surprised Aussey's Belgians aren't joining in)
But what about Asia? It's barely moving, and that seems to be primarily be and Galbatorix carving up the Middle East.

[Glen]

Well, it's certainly going slow... And the problem with an Africa Conference is that 2/3s of it are independent powers, and much of the rest are ISOTed colonies (Lybia, Egypt, Nubia), and whatever's left is becoming Drakan, it seems.
And Europe isn't just moving towards war, it's in war, with the Karelia v. Skandistan and Prussia v. Oldenburg v. Skandistan.... (Everyone is ganging up on Oldenburg- I'm surprised Aussey's Belgians aren't joining in)
But what about Asia? It's barely moving, and that seems to be primarily be and Galbatorix carving up the Middle East.

I hear you. I think we need to have some more diffuse play. Unfortunately, New Granada is not the country to rectify those problems....

[Condottiero]

My plans are:

La Plata --> end up the imperial invaders (there will be some of them in Patagonia and los Andes, Glen maybe you can still write something about small groups of imperials attacking cavalry outposts and groups of gauchos), rebuild their fleet and create an american defensive organization (my idea is that they could clash with draka, the british or even the US)

Skandistan --> the Holy War will continue, but they will have to seek an alliance with Prussia and the British Empire, making some concessions in order to defeat Oldemburg/Karelia/France

Papal States --> they do not have enough manpower to continue expansion unless France and Austria give them time to equip more troopers from conquered areas (Tuscany and Genoa). If so, they will do a move to take Milan and Savoy. (Come on Ward and Aussey are you going to let those prizes go away!).

Philippines (Kingdom of Spain) --> exiled king Charles is considering becoming Charles I, Emperor of China and the Philippines. Does anyone opose to his seizing a bigger part of China (from Shangai to Beijing)?

[Imajin]

As long as Karelian Cathay isn't bothered, Karelia (and Armenia-Trebizond, for what little that's worth) doesn't mind an expansion of Hispano-Phillipine Control in China.

[Othniel]

Cambodia as a Space power!

[Diamond]

If we ever actually play a Mosaic Mars, I think my civ would have to be the Archbishopric of Novo Roma, held in the name of His Holiness Pope Marcellus VII.

(From a TL where the RCC was responsible for a scientific revolution in the late 16th century.)

:)

Monks... in... SPAAAAAACE!!!

[Othniel]

I waas going to do one where Angkor surived until a century after the Europeans came and ended up becoming the Republican Equivalant of modren day China.

What year would it be?

[Lauranthalas]

But what about Asia? It's barely moving, and that seems to be primarily be and Galbatorix carving up the Middle East.
I am basically rolling over the himalaya and annex eevry meter I take. it's just slow.

[Bulgaroktonos]

I am basically rolling over the himalaya and annex eevry meter I take. it's just slow.

Just don't move into Tibet. Take Sinkaing for all I care, but Tibet is mine.

[Imajin]

I am basically rolling over the himalaya and annex eevry meter I take. it's just slow.
Still, it's not much room for interaction with other players, unless you enter Tibet, I suppose.

[Lauranthalas]

Just don't move into Tibet. Take Sinkaing for all I care, but Tibet is mine.
can you mark tiubet on a map and I mark then afterwards what parts I annex and figure around there?
I mostly care about Mongolia and some areas west of it to make a straight border.

[Glen]

can you mark tiubet on a map and I mark then afterwards what parts I annex and figure around there?
I mostly care about Mongolia and some areas west of it to make a straight border.

Yes, someone please do throw up an updated map.

[reformer]

Could you discuss ME on another board please. . . I think a mosaic Mars has potential. One recomendation though, to support wider ranges of TLs, how about no set ISOT date. . . ancient timelines might develop spaceflight slightly earlier.

[Lauranthalas]

Could you discuss ME on another board please. . . I think a mosaic Mars has potential. One recomendation though, to support wider ranges of TLs, how about no set ISOT date. . . ancient timelines might develop spaceflight slightly earlier.
What about atlantis wouldn't have drowned

sry about that

[Aussey]

Why not jump ME6 20 years, that totally gets rid of disease, and we could have that base on the moon, and everyone is ready to go to Mars...

[Lauranthalas]

Why not jump ME6 20 years, that totally gets rid of disease, and we could have that base on the moon, and everyone is ready to go to Mars...
cause in ME6 is a cold war developing and we just cant jump that much that fast in a cold war

[reformer]

Anyway. . . new game blood needed. Older games wouldn't be nearly as mars focused.