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NapoleonXIV
January 8th, 2004, 10:21 PM
We all know that many of the antebellum Southern Planters saw themselves as the intellectual heirs of Rome. WI they saw themselves as its cultural heirs as well. Starting around 1810 and using early 19thc views of declining Rome they legalise white slavery and force debtors to pay off with their daughters who become concubines and their sons who are forced into the arena. They begin to walk about in togas, design their entire houses as huge baths and have feasts featuring wild boars stuffed with dormice stuffed with hummingbird tongues. Not visiting the vomitorium is a deadly insult and the entire party collapses into an orgy by midnight. Meanwhile, black slavery goes on as before but even a little harsher with more blacks being 'field' and more whites being 'house' slaves.

Also continuing is the economics. King Cotton continues to dominate world markets and make the planters rich. The Northern tariffs wax and wane as mercantilist controls to captivate the South as the Norths's economic colony.

How would John S Calhoun defend this 'peculiar institution'? How would Southern equity laws and slavery regulations extend themselves to whites.

What happens when/if war comes. Would the flower of Southern manhood fight the same as before?

Norman
January 8th, 2004, 10:41 PM
The civil war would be much sooner, probably around 1830 (at the very latest), and the western states, including Texas and Missouri would have joined the north. The south under these conditions would have remained viable for approximately a few months at best after the start of the war.

One interesting side benefit would be that because both whites and black slaves, today's racial climate might be very different.

NHBL
January 9th, 2004, 07:40 PM
I think that the aristocracy would still fight--but there would be few common whites that would willingly fight for the South in this scenario. There would be conscription, but many soldiers would probably surrender rather quickly. I also wonder how many dead rebel officers would be found to have been wounded in the back while facing the Union troops.

DuQuense
January 12th, 2004, 06:33 AM
Given that mast of the Southern states had just outlawed white slaves and freed the last of the ones they had back in the 1760's. I can't see them reimposing it in the 1810's. :rolleyes:

Straha
July 14th, 2004, 02:48 AM
this is the ASB board so anything is possible.