War movies that could've been/could be made

[Melvin Loh]

What are some good war movie ideas which you guys reckon could've been made thruout the last decade or so, but weren't or haven't been yet ?

I reckon, for starters:
173rd Airborne Bde in Vietnam from 1965
Delta Force from inception onwards (possibly based on INSIDE DELTA FORCE)
[these 1st 2 are probably better as series a la BAND OF BROTHERS]
8th TFW 'Wolfpack' in VN + biographical story of Col Chappie James (similar to Carl Brashear's story portrayed in MEN OF HONOUR)
B52 crews' story during VW- esp during Op LINEBACKER (good current book to base movie on- THE 11 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS)
369th Inf Regt 'Harlem Hellfighters' on Western Front as outstanding African-American regt of WWI
92nd Div in Italy during WWII- a good movie to be made on this particular context is MIRACLE AT ST ANNA by James McBride
761st Tank Bn 'Black Panthers'- story of fighting their way thru France into Germany 1944-45 as part of Patton's 3rd Army
1st Marine Div's fighting retreat from Chosin reservoir Christmas 1950 (anybody read MARCH TO GLORY by Robert Leckie ?)
Op ACID GAMBIT Dec 1989 Panama by SOCOM to rescue captured American spy Kurt Muse from Modelo Prison
US Marines deployed as MNF peacekeepers to Beirut 1983 (based on Dale Dye's OUTRAGE)

What would you guys reckon would've been the impact of such war movies had they been made within the last 10 yrs ?

[Landshark]

Instead of wasting his time and talent with "Heartbreak Ridge" and it's stirring tale of how a bunch of stereotypical misfits took part in America's stunning victory in Grenada the man who gave us "Unforgiven" could have made a movie about the USMC in Vietnam or the Pacific.

[David Howery]

OK, it's not about a real war, but I would have loved to see a TV miniseries on "Red Storm Rising"... with today's CGI tech, you could really make it spectacular....

[wkwillis]

Los Gringos
The Irish American and other Catholic soldiers that defected to the Mexican side in the Mexican American War.
Nat Turner's Rebellion
The black slave rebellion and massacre, and the trial afterwards.

[SemperFI]

I think Run Between the Raindrops by Dale Dye it's about the Marines in Hue. I'd like to see a movie made about Tarawa, A Hell of A Way To Die is a good book about that.

[NHBL]

This could make an excellent movie if done well.
It has an honorable main character, daring raids, fights against high odds, places for some great visual effects--especially the hunt for Konigsburg--and a near tragic ending, as the hero is forced to surrender after winning a 4 year long guerilla war.
Hollywood would undoubtedly screw it up though--they aren't known for accuracy. I doubt they could resist a scene with a great airship arriving from Germany with suppliies--or its going down in flames in front of the people it was attempting to deliver its cargo to. This despite the fact that the airship never came close to the German forces.
More likely, Hollywood would never touch it, since I doubt that they would risk a German protagonist. The relation between the Germans and the natives would be botched as well, I think.

[David Howery]

with CGI, you could make a lot of war movies really stunning. I'd love to see "Midway" remade.. the original used models, pretty unconvincingly. Maybe it could be a sequel to Pearl Harbor. How about the battle of Kursk, although it might be hard to make it all make sense in a 2 hour movie. Lord of the Rings showed how medieval/ancient scenarios could be filmed (one scene in it had 200,000 figures on the screen, IIRC)... you could make movies on the Granicus, Thermopylae, Hannibal's campaign against Rome, the big battle of Aetius vs. Attila (can't remember the name), Leignitz.... yeah, I know some of these were already made into movies, but CGI could make them better.....

[Chris Oakley]

How about a film adaptation of "1901"?

[Scott Rosenthal]

What about a movie based on Operation Olympic/Coronet?

[Paul Spring]

you could make movies on the Granicus, Thermopylae, Hannibal's campaign against Rome, the big battle of Aetius vs. Attila (can't remember the name), Leignitz.... yeah, I know some of these were already made into movies, but CGI could make them better.....

Yes - you could make some absolutely spectacular battle scenes. The downside would of course be that Hollywood ALWAYS has to make major changes to the actual story, so the main question would be if the movie is merely very inaccurate or whether it has butchered the historical record beyond recognition.

[MerryPrankster]

They had the Aetius-Attilla battle in the TNT movie "Attilla," which was pretty good (I think), but it turns out it was horrendously inaccurate historically (Attilla is murdered by one of his wives right after the battle in France...the whole Italian campaign, such as it was, is never mentioned).

[wkwillis]

I heard that in 'Midway' one aircraft swoops around a carrier castle and when it reappears on the other side it is a different model.

[David Howery]

Matt> yeah, I saw that one two... hated it! So many inaccuracies... in addition to the big battle at the end (the Huns fought dismounted?! yeah, right):
they got it wrong how Aetius was murdered
the huns all looked like Europeans instead of Asians
most of the details about Attila's early years were way wrong
Aetius was shown as being at the mercy of the royal family, instead of having a lot of personal power (hell, he had the only successful Roman army around)
I generally don't mind if movies fudge on history if they make it more interesting, but these were just stupid...

[Melvin Loh]

Hey guys, re CGI in war movies, there's been speculation thruout the last few yrs about the making of GATES OF FIRE, which is all about the stand by Leonidas and his 300 Spartans at Thermopylae against the 2m+ Persians. Now, wouldn't CGI used to portray the immense magnitude of the Persian army just be unbelievable ?

[DominusNovus]

Alexander the Great.

[Diamond]

Hey guys, re CGI in war movies, there's been speculation thruout the last few yrs about the making of GATES OF FIRE, which is all about the stand by Leonidas and his 300 Spartans at Thermopylae against the 2m+ Persians. Now, wouldn't CGI used to portray the immense magnitude of the Persian army just be unbelievable ?

I read that book a few years back; it was great. I'd love to see it as a film.

What about a movie version of the journey of Xenophon and the 10,000?

[MarkWhittington]

Los Gringos
The Irish American and other Catholic soldiers that defected to the Mexican side in the Mexican American War.
Nat Turner's Rebellion
The black slave rebellion and massacre, and the trial afterwards.
In fact, a film was made about the San Patricios in real life. It was called One Man's Hero, staring Tom Berringer.

[MarkWhittington]

What are some good war movie ideas which you guys reckon could've been made thruout the last decade or so, but weren't or haven't been yet ?

I reckon, for starters:
173rd Airborne Bde in Vietnam from 1965
Delta Force from inception onwards (possibly based on INSIDE DELTA FORCE)
[these 1st 2 are probably better as series a la BAND OF BROTHERS]
8th TFW 'Wolfpack' in VN + biographical story of Col Chappie James (similar to Carl Brashear's story portrayed in MEN OF HONOUR)
B52 crews' story during VW- esp during Op LINEBACKER (good current book to base movie on- THE 11 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS)
369th Inf Regt 'Harlem Hellfighters' on Western Front as outstanding African-American regt of WWI
92nd Div in Italy during WWII- a good movie to be made on this particular context is MIRACLE AT ST ANNA by James McBride
761st Tank Bn 'Black Panthers'- story of fighting their way thru France into Germany 1944-45 as part of Patton's 3rd Army
1st Marine Div's fighting retreat from Chosin reservoir Christmas 1950 (anybody read MARCH TO GLORY by Robert Leckie ?)
Op ACID GAMBIT Dec 1989 Panama by SOCOM to rescue captured American spy Kurt Muse from Modelo Prison
US Marines deployed as MNF peacekeepers to Beirut 1983 (based on Dale Dye's OUTRAGE)

What would you guys reckon would've been the impact of such war movies had they been made within the last 10 yrs ?

Here is my suggestion:

The Conquest of Gaul, staring Patrick Stewart as Caesar

[wkwillis]

In fact, a film was made about the San Patricios in real life. It was called One Man's Hero, staring Tom Berringer.

Thanks for the ref

[wkwillis]

I read that book a few years back; it was great. I'd love to see it as a film.

What about a movie version of the journey of Xenophon and the 10,000?

The first great military history. The Peleponesian one was the second? Or were there others?

[Leo Caesius]

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd very very much like to see a movie detailing the Assyrian conquest of Israel and siege of Jerusalem, using details from the book of Kings. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but when I was studying epigraphy, the Lachish letters gave me chills... in the last letter, the unit commander is bitching about conditions, when he says "I'm waiting for the signal lights from Azekah, but for some reason they haven't come" (think of the scene with the signal fires from The Return of the King). Darkness had just permanently descended upon Azekah - and Lachish was next.

When we next see the Assyrian army, they are camped outside of Jerusalem, and their tents stretch all the way to the horizon. All the people of Judah are gathered into the city walls and camped on the top of the city wall, waiting to see what will happen next; the Rab Shaqeh (Assyrian Prime Minister) calls out and summons King Hezekiah. When Hezekiah appears, the Rab Shaqeh starts shouting about the destruction the Assyrians are going to cause, in Hebrew.

Hezekiah says "Relax, Rab Shaqeh - you don't need to speak our local patois. I'm educated, so go ahead and speak Aramaic," which was the official language of the Assyrian Empire at the time.

The Rab Shaqeh's response? "I'm not saying this for your benefit - Hezekiah - I'm saying it for the sake of those people hanging off the walls, who will soon be drinking their own urine and eating their own waste!" Get ready for the siege!

Little does he know, but Hezekiah had all the water he needed; he commanded his engineers to hew a tunnel into the bedrock, which went under the countryside all the way to a spring in the small village of Silwan - one of the greatest feats of engineering in the ancient world. The Judeans were prepared to wait out a very long siege.

I don't mean to spoil the ending, but a mysterious plague affects the Assyrian camp, and the Judeans awake to find the fields around the city deserted. Pure cinematic gold! Perhaps we could get Mel Gibson to play the Rab Shaqeh. Patrick McGoughan could be Hezekiah.

[Prunesquallor]

1. Has anyone ever done a film about Hereward the Wake (apart from tv adaptations of the Kingsley novel)?

2. One about Harald Hadrada, ending with the Battle of Stamford Bridge.

3. Marius and Sulla.

4. The campaigns of Eumenes.

5. This doesn't quite fit in, but an adaptation of ALLAN QUATERMAIN could now be made. Since the last third of the book involves a civil war climaxing in a massive battle it's really been unfilmable before, but now with CGI... Sean Connery as Allan and Morgan Freeman as Umslopagas. There wouldn't be a dry eye in the house.

[Leo Caesius]

5. This doesn't quite fit in, but an adaptation of ALLAN QUATERMAIN could now be made. Since the last third of the book involves a civil war climaxing in a massive battle it's really been unfilmable before, but now with CGI... Sean Connery as Allan and Morgan Freeman as Umslopagas. There wouldn't be a dry eye in the house.

I had just those two in mind when reading the novel. Funny, that.

[David Howery]

I love the Quatermain novels, and have read every one I could get my hands on. That said, I think "The Ivory Child" would make a pretty good war movie too (along with the warriors, you have a giant god/elephant.. way cool!). However, I don't think Connery would be the best Quatermain. In the novels, he is a short wiry man, not a big muscular hunk. Mel Gibson?

[Prunesquallor]

I still go for Connery. I think he has much more of the "feel" of Quatermain than Gibson. Let's face it, if you can have Errol Flynn as Soames Forsyte and Clark Gable as Parnell, what do a couple of inches matter? Also, if you look at the progression of the character as the novels were written, there's quite a bit of change in the conception. In fact, some novels seem to have been revised for later editions to keep in tune with the newer image. I like THE IVORY CHILD, but because of the ending ("Such are some of the things I remember about this journey, but to tell the truth I paid little attention to them and many others. For oh! my heart was sore because of Hans") I don't read it in the pub. The motley collection of thugs and reprobates who inhabit my local might find it strange if I started snivelling. The other Quatermain I'd really like to see filmed is CHILD OF STORM, again with a climactic battle.

[mattep74]

Here is my ideas

Gustav Vasas escape from Denmark to Dalarna and then his rise to become the swedish king and throw of the danish might

Battle of Lund in 1675, most casualities in any swedish battle

Battle of Poltava(only time i have seen that battle on tv was in a tv series about peter the great)

the brawl of Bender(was made into a swedish comedy in the 80ths that bombed a company out of buissnes)

Remake of Waterloo

battle of Trafalgar

Larry Bonds Red Phoenix

[David Howery]

Connery would be of the right age to play Quatermain in "Allan Quatermain", since in that book, AQ was grey haired and old, although still pretty hardy. For "The Ivory Child" or "Child of Storm", though, he'd be too old... AQ was only in his 30's or 40's for those two. I still think it'd be better if you had someone shorter and less muscular, a more wiry kind of guy. Mel Gibson comes to mind, but maybe there's another Brit actor who'd fit the bill.....

[Prunesquallor]

Sorry. To me the combination of resignation, sadness, acceptance, wisdom, experience, makes Connery an actor who'd play the older Quatermain superbly. Admittedly, IVORY CHILD and CHILD OF STORM are both set decades before ALLAN QUATERMAIN.

[David Howery]

well, he did play AQ in "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"... did you like him in that?

[Prunesquallor]

Never saw the film. From what I saw of the comics, it looked like a simpler version of Kim Newman's ANNO DRACULA and what was being said of the film, even before it was released, convinced me that I could wait till the DVD got to THE POSTMAN price range.

[Linkwerk]

OK, it's not about a real war, but I would have loved to see a TV miniseries on "Red Storm Rising"... with today's CGI tech, you could really make it spectacular....

That....would be SO AWESOME

[David Howery]

Prune> mmm, no, TLEG wasn't anything like Anno Dracula... nothing about vampires taking over the world. It was ok to watch once, but I wouldn't buy it... rent it once, see how much you like it...

[Mike Collins]

1. Battle of Camerone 1863- The Battle that made the French Foreign Legion famous.

2. Operation KINGPIN/The Son Tay Prison raid of 1970

3. The Cambodia Incursion of 1970

4. Battle of Iwo Jima- "Sands of Iwo Jima" was good, but Id like to see something more comprehensive.

5. Battle of Okinawa

6. Battle of Xuan Loc 1975- One under equipped ARVN division holds off a Communist force over 4 times its size.

7. Battle of Khafji

8. The Falklands War

9. Japan's 1941 Darwin Raid

10. The Devil's Brigade- Obviously not a war or battle. Hollywood made a movie many years ago about the US/Canadian Special Service Force starring William Holden. It totally sucked. It deserves to be remade.

[Prunesquallor]

Dave> what I mean is a literary joke, playing with classic fictional characters. And when I say, wait till it gets to THE POSTMAN price range, that's when it's cheaper to buy than to rent.

[Tetsu]

I would love to see a movie about the Spanish conquest of Mesoamerica; as far as I know, there haven`t been any. I think it has the potential to be a great movie, if it`s done right.

[Melvin Loh]

There actually is, according to IMDB, a Son Tay raid movie being planned, and the bombing of Darwin was in 1942, 19th Feb to be exact: there was a teledrama IIRC made by the ABC back in 1991 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the attack. Also, Mike, I think 1 good book to base the Iwo Jima campaign on would be FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS by James Bradley- read it ? The author's father was IIRC a USN corpsman on Iwo, who served alongside those Marines who planted the Stars and Stripes in that famous photo.

I also think the next few ideas for good war movies:
bio-movie on Oliver Law (whom I posted about on the previous board), the African-American CO of the Abraham Lincoln Bn of the International Brigade during the Spanish CW (perhaps Lawrence Fishburne or Delroy Lindo in the starring role ?), killed in action at Brunete July 1937
story of 1st Kansas Volunteers (Colored) in action in the ACW's western campaigns from 1862
bio-movie on Charles Young (possibly Samuel L. Jackson in lead role ?)
IDF in Yom Kippur War 1973
King Philip's War 1675-76, told thru perspective of Capt Benjamin Church (maybe played by Brad Pitt ?) and his Rangers fighting Metacom's/King Philip's Indian confederacy
perhaps not a war movie per se- but what about a film set during the 1943 Detroit race riots ?

[Diamond]

Has there ever been a movie done of the Battle of Rorke's Drift? THAT would be awesome to watch.

Another movie I'd like to see (tho it probably wouldn't have very broad appeal): The fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans.

[Prunesquallor]

There is, curiously enough, a little known film called ZULU. I don't know if it ever got general release (sarcasm.)

[MarkWhittington]

There is, curiously enough, a little known film called ZULU. I don't know if it ever got general release (sarcasm.)
Didn't that one star some bloke named Michael Caine? I wonder whatever became of him.....

[Diamond]

Terribly sorry; my eidetic memory must be a little faulty. I can't recite the periodic table or the names of every national capital either... it is truly a burden, going through life as merely human; what's it like being infallible? :D

Haven't seen Zulu in so many years I'd completely forgotten about it.

[ConfederateFly]

I was thinking of either the Victorius Opposition or a movie of the Confederacy from 1861-2004.

[David S Poepoe]

I was thinking of either the Victorius Opposition or a movie of the Confederacy from 1861-2004.

I think thats too wide a spread of years to be covered in one movie.

[Melvin Loh]

I've actually thought of whom I'd cast in the movie of MIRACLE AT ST ANNA, which for those who don't know is set in northern Italy late 1944, revolving around 4 black soldiers of the 92nd BUFFALO Div who get cut off behind German lines and meet this little Italian boy who survived a massacre of 500 villagers by the WAFFEN SS- they then try to make their way back to American lines with the help of local Italian partisans.

Michael Clarke Duncan- Sam Train (who else could play this part tailor-made for 'Big Mike' ?)- a huge dimwitted black soldier with a heart of gold, who finds and protects the little boy- who'd be played by that same kid who was Roberto Benigni's son in LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL

Wood Harris (Julius Campbell off REMEMBER THE TITANS)- Lt Aubrey Stamps- a professional black officer disillusioned by the racist high command's endemic racism and denigration of black soldiers in the 92nd

Anthony Anderson- Bishop Cummings- a cynical money-grubbing so-called 'preacher' from St Louis

Luis Guzman- Hector Negron- scared young Puerto Rican who acts as interpreter due to his language skills

Monica Bellucci (the chick who's Mary Magdalen off THE PASSION)- Renate, the female partisan leader in the village the Buffalo soldiers come to

any short sinewy Italian actor to play the role of Pepe, the 'Black Butterfly' local partisan leader, and any villainous-looking dude to play Rodolfo, his best friend who ends up betraying him to the SS

William Fichtner- Col. Jack Driscoll- hardbitten Bostonian CO of the 370th Inf Regt, the unit from which the main characters belong

Cary Elwes- Capt Nokes- a typical bigoted white Southern officer who resents being in command of 'niggers' and has absolutely no faith in black soldiers

Don Cheadle- Lt Birdsong- black junior officer who speaks German who participates in the search for the missing soldiers

Michael Boatman (from SPIN CITY)- Lt Huggs- another black Northern junior officer who gets killed during the opening attack on the Cinquale Canal

Steven Ford (Col Joe Cribbs off BLACKHAWK DOWN)- the highly professional white officer from Maine (can't remember his name), 1 of the few good white officers in the div

Gary Lewis (McGoin off GANGS OF NEW YORK)- Gen Allman (Almond in real-life), the 92nd's highly belligerent redneck commander from South Carolina who wants his men to fight and die, and berates most of them for being cowards

Michael Rooker- Capt Walker- in flashback, a white Mississippian officer who respects his black soldiers and leads by example, but gets KIA

any young blond German actor to play the role of the young SS trooper present at the massacre at St Anna who refused to take part and ran away, and also tried to save the life of the little boy by telling him and his mother to flee, then killing another SS trooper who wanted to kill them

[Melvin Loh]

hey guys, another thing- what other great military stories do you reckon could be made into military miniseries along the lines of BAND OF BROTHERS (which on the whole was an absolutely phenomenal book and miniseries about Easy Coy, 3rd/506th, 101st Airborne Div during WWII) ? Besides my suggestions mentioned earlier, what about if some of Stephen Ambrose's other books such as CITIZEN SOLDIERS or PEGASUS BRIDGE were given similar treatment ? The former could possibly be better presented as a documentary, while the latter could be done along similar lines to the 2-part 1998 BBC miniseries WARRIORS, which was about soldiers of the Cheshire Regt serving as UN peacekeepers in Bosnia 1992-93 (and which also starred Damien Lewis, that redheaded guy who played Dick Winters in BoB).

Other good military miniseries I'd love to see made:
2/2 Independent Commando Coy East Timor 1942-43
Battle of Kapyong 3RAR April 1951
Gary Linderer's LRRP/Ranger series
8th TFW or B-52 squadron experiences in Vietnam
Buffalo soldiers during Philippine Insurrection 1899- esp stories of renegade black troopers such as David Fagan, 24th Inf, deserting to Filipino side
10th Mtn Div peacekeeping experiences in Somalia 1992-93 (possibly based on ON 10 DOLLARS A DAY)

More military movie ideas:
Kasserine Pass 1943
American soldiers serving in north Russia, 1918-19 (possibly based on WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER)
CHICKENHAWK by Robert Mason

[Mike Collins]

There actually is, according to IMDB, a Son Tay raid movie being planned, and the bombing of Darwin was in 1942, 19th Feb to be exact: there was a teledrama IIRC made by the ABC back in 1991 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the attack. Also, Mike, I think 1 good book to base the Iwo Jima campaign on would be FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS by James Bradley- read it ? The author's father was IIRC a USN corpsman on Iwo, who served alongside those Marines who planted the Stars and Stripes in that famous photo.

I vaguely remember seeing some docu-drama about Australia in early WW2 that the Darwin Raid factored into heavily. I wasnt highly impressed with it as it was all set inside in government buildings and the "action" was centered on civil servants trying to figure out a way to get the Australian Divisions in North Africa back home without looking like wimps.

Ive flipped through "Flags of Our Fathers". I believe there is an Iwo Jima movie being made right now, but I dont think its based on this book.

Son Tay, the movie?? Sweet!

[NapoleonXIV]

I would love to see a movie about the Spanish conquest of Mesoamerica; as far as I know, there haven`t been any. I think it has the potential to be a great movie, if it`s done right.

http://www.filmsandtv.com/search.asp?ms=1&uq=The%20Royal%20Hunt%20Of%20The%20Sun

Its a good drama though, with some of the better 'one-liners' I've heard.

The book The Psychopathic God; Adolf Hitler by Robert G.I. White would make a very good movie if done right. Its a biography, but reads like a horror story and has some of the most frightening artwork I've seen anywhere

[wkwillis]

I would love to see a movie about the Spanish conquest of Mesoamerica; as far as I know, there haven`t been any. I think it has the potential to be a great movie, if it`s done right.

One of the Spanish defected to the Mayans and tried to build a resistance to the Spanish. Don't know much more about that.
I dimly recall seeing a movie about a guy who was involved in some Mexican or Mesoamerica war when I was a kid. Maybe it was about him. This was like forty years ago, so no hope on titles or whatever.

[Melvin Loh]

Hey guys, what about a brief follow-up to the BoB series ? Like providing a brief coverage of the Easy Coy guys after the war in their post-army careers, while reflecting on their wartime experiences ? Dick Winters and Lew Nixon working as executives in Nixon Nitration Works, Buck Compton serving as LA County prosecutor, Joe Liebgott driving and owning taxis in Frisco, Bull Randleman in the Arkansas farm machinery business, David Webster on his adventures ending up with being lost at sea while shark-hunting off the coast of Florida in 1961, Ron Speirs continuing to serve in the post-war Army, including in the occupation forces in Germany, Bill Guarnere and Joe Toye adjusting to life as amputees, etc. Hey, WI Spielberg had actually decided to incorporate such a brief series of post-war vignettes on the men of Easy as part of the BoB series ?

[Melvin Loh]

OK, just a very quick query here- why ain't there nobody else on this board 'sides himself who's seen BoB ? This HBO 10-part miniseries was 1 of the most prominent military shows on TV, for pity's sakes !!!

[Anthony Appleyard]

the big battle of Aetius vs. Attila (can't remember the name)
That was the Catalaunian Fields alias Châlons sur Marne.

[eddie_falco]

The early years of the French Foreign Leigion between 1830 up to the Franco-Prussian War

I'd also like to see a film about William Walker, an Irish-American adventurer who became dictator of Nicaragua for a while in the 1850's.

Also a biography about Hiram Cronk, who at his death in 1905 was the oldest surviving veteran of the War of 1812.

There needs to also be a movie about the Canadian army in the 1970's.

[gtrof]

OK, it's not about a real war, but I would have loved to see a TV miniseries on "Red Storm Rising"... with today's CGI tech, you could really make it spectacular....

Damn straight!!!!!!! I would love to see that the ulitame Technothriller movie!

Also a movie about the Isreali tankers would be good to, Heights of Courage by Khankni about the 7th Brigade's stand near the Valley of Tears. Pretty much any hard core tank movie would be great.

[gtrof]

OK, just a very quick query here- why ain't there nobody else on this board 'sides himself who's seen BoB ? This HBO 10-part miniseries was 1 of the most prominent military shows on TV, for pity's sakes !!!

Own the hole thing on DVD, it was excellent as well!

[Michael]

devil's brigade/guard can't remember the exact name but it was about a group of german soldiers who joined the french foreign legion and fought in korea/vietnam (damn my memory sucks today :o ) but it was a good book and would make a great movie

[Chris Oakley]

Sorry I've been away so long . . . I've had my hands full lately.

Anyway, if this hasn't already been suggested on this thread, I think it might be interesting to do a feature film adaptation of Harry Turtledove's Blood and Iron.