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Geekhis Khan
May 6th, 2009, 01:57 PM
They descended slowly over the city, seeming to hover like alien space ships. Twenty four flying in Vees of three. These were the legendary Savoia-Marchetti SM.55X flying boats. Their design was at once unique and iconoclastic: boomerang-like wings, twin catamaran hulls, push-pull engines in a single raised nacelle atop the wing centerline. A Norman Bel Geddes dream made solid.

It was the evening of July 15th, 1933. The place was Chicago, Illinois, United States of America. The event was the Century of Progress fair. The origin of this otherworldly air armada was not Venus, but Rome. The lead plane, I-BALB, was at the point of the first Vee. Its pilot, the armada commander, was Air Minister of Fascist Italy Italo Balbo.

They flew first over the fairgrounds and navy pier and then turned into the wind. Their forty three American fighter escorts flew overhead in formation spelling out the letters "ITALY". The dirigible Macon floated slowly overhead; other planes flew in acrobatic loops and dives. The Vees of SM.55X's landed one after the other on the glass-smooth waters. It was a grand entrance, one that showed the world the might and majesty of the up-and-coming Italian nation. While other nations wallowed in depression Italy's economy was vibrant and growing. While other nations wrestled with civil strife Italy had (apparently) attained order. While other nations fought for their identity Italy basked in Neo-Roman glory.

Balbo was welcomed as a hero, honored with the key to the city and a ticker tape parade. He and his fellow atlantici were showered with gifts, parties, and accolades. Cheers of "Viva Italia! Viva Balbo!" erupted from the throats of the city's adoring Italian-American population, along with, to the consternation of many, a few Fascist salutes. "I was profoundly moved and waves of emotion swept over the room," he said of the adulations. A street in Chicago still bears Balbo's name. Balbo was even honored by the Sioux nation with a headdress and the name "Chief Flying Eagle". Additional accolades awaited in New York. He even accepted an invitation to lunch with President Franklin Roosevelt, whose policies Balbo compared favorably to Mussolini's. Eventually, a full Roman Triumph awaited him back in the Italian Patria.

"In the end, it is always Chicago," Balbo wrote in the last few chapters of his final autobiography, "That day, that culmination, was the day that stands above all others as greatest in my life." He has a point. Despite all the great achievements of his life: Blackshirt Quadrumvir, Air Minister, Libyan Governor, and finally Il Duce of the Fascist state, no other event was so grand and glorious, so daring and dashing, so utterly Balbo as the Century of Progress flight.

Flight in 1933 was a new and dangerous affair. Transoceanic flight was the stuff of legends catapulting those who achieved such into instant deification in the public eye (witness Charles Lindbergh). Balbo did one better: he lead a wing of two dozen aircraft not once but twice across the treacherous North Atlantic. Only two aircraft of the original 25 were lost, one in Amsterdam on the way to America and one in the Azores on the way back. Two men were killed; that such a relatively "small" price was paid for such an audacious risk is a testament to the skill and planning that went into the venture.

The second transatlantic flight almost serves as preview for Balbo as Duce and world leader. The audacity and bravado of the flights masked the months of careful planning and preparations that went into them. The vanity and pomp of Balbo's public appearances conceal the cooperation with and delegation of duty to his fellow atlantici, upon whose expertise Balbo as an average pilot and navigator relied. His bombastic presence overshadows the careful, calculating mind of a natural organizer with an attention for detail. The audacity, organization, and sheer presence that made the transatlantic journeys a reality, skills which served him and the party well in the organization of the Blackshirts and the March on Rome, would continue to serve him well as Air Marshal, Colonial Governor, and Duce. The daring that led him through ice storm and fog would lead his nation through the war. The organizational aptitude that planned out and executed the complicated armada would help forge a modern nation out of a struggling monarchy. The cult of personality that graced the newsreel screens of the thirties would grace the icons of the post-war Fascist state.

Meanwhile the personality flaws that dogged the flight would haunt the later Empire. The vanity and bravado that drove the flights would, much like his predecessor's policies, continue to put public facade before practical accomplishment. The sometimes foolhardy daring that nearly lost the entire flight in the icy fogs over the North Atlantic nearly led the nation to disastrous war with his Soviet enemies. The fickle moodiness and select blindness that led him to conflict with his friends and rivals nearly cost him everything in the coup.

To study Balbo is to study Fascist Italy. From a boy who dreamed of adventure sprang a pioneering aviator whose audacious Mediterranean and Atlantic flights brought international attention to Italy. From Mazzinnian Republican roots sprang a Fascist revolutionary without whose organizational aptitude the March on Rome may never have succeeded. The brutal Blackshirt who helped organize the March on Rome would build the ailing Regio Aeronautica into a marvel of Fascist achievement, the violent and inhospitable Libyan desert into a model colony, and the nation of Italy itself into a regional and economic power in its own right. The republican who became a dictator who set the stage for the Italian Republic of today. The radical revolutionary who courted the reactionary powers-that-be. The organizer who ran the nation like a well-oiled but overbuilt machine, yet couldn't prevent the eventual breakdown of the Fascist order. He was a man whose strengths, persona, life, and achievements embodied the grand principles and overlooked shortcomings of Italian Fascism.

In the following chapters I will explore this mythic and controversial figure, his strengths and weaknesses, his achievements and failures and through him cast light on the mysterious and often contradictory nature of Italian Fascism itself. I will explore how a nation that inspired Hitler could end up opposing him. I will explore how a nation that created the New Colonialism could end up so central to contemporary decolonization efforts. I will explore how a nation founded on achievement and organization and unity of purpose could end up harboring so many diverse socio-political viewpoints. From its tumultuous rise to its quiet, almost nonchalant fall, through the torrents of the war, the controversies of Abyssinia and Nai Yisroyel, and the laissez faire authoritarianism, we will explore the theories and realities of Fascist Italy through one of its principle and most colorful of personalities, the second Il Duce Italo Balbo.

Introduction to Roman Eagle, the Biography of Italo Balbo by Guiseppi Bosco, PhD., Professor of History at the University of Illinois, Chicago.

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Above is the fictional introduction to a principle counterfactual "source" on Italo Balbo. The book itself and Professor Bosco are fictional, as are the events after 1936. The transatlantic flight and the details associated with it, including the accolades, honors, "Chief Flying Eagle", and Balbo avenue in Chicago, are OTL. The meeting with FDR is OTL as is the "favorable" comparison to Mussolini.

This thread serves as a preview and sounding board for my upcoming Viva Balbo TL. This ATL will have the assassination of Mussolini and Ciano via anarchist bomb set up Balbo's rise to power and chronicle the Balbo reign as Il Duce. I've seen a lot of speculation, even a couple of TLs, on a "smarter Fascist Italy" that doesn't tie itself to Hitler or commit the more egregious OTL blunders. Interestingly, Balbo offers one such scenario. He was an incredibly skilled organizer. OTL he built up the Blackshirts from armed mobs into a powerful paramilitary organization. The March on Rome may have been impossible without him. He built up the RA to one of the world's largest air forces despite the industrial limitations of his nation, only to hand it off to far less competent people after his promotion/exile to the colonial governorship of Libya by a jealous and frightened Mussolini. Balbo quickly turned Libya from a filthy backwater into a model colony and, given another ten years, might have successfully forged it into the planned "fourth shore" of Italy.

A passionate Germanophobe and open friend of the Jews of Italy, he angrily and publicly opposed the alliance with Hitler, whom he considered a threat to world order. He presciently foretold that the "Axis" would prove the doom of Fascist Italy. He advocated partnership with the UK and US. He was a vocal critic of Mussolini, though never wavered in his duty to the "Chief" even after their falling-out. While Mussolini ran on self-doubt, fear, and paranoia, Balbo ran on a burning self-confidence, vanity, and an almost juvenile love for adventure and daring.

However, he was not without weaknesses of his own. His vanity made him crave the public limelight that insecure Mussolini abhorred. His boldness got the better of him and led directly to his OTL friendly fire death over Tobruk at the outbreak of the war (to this day conspiracy theories abound as to Mussolini's involvement). His love for show helped feed the great "bluff" that was the Italian military and many of his strategic plans were more adventurous than strategically sound.

In all, a Balbo Italy offers some truly interesting counterfactual what ifs. Many of the OTL mistakes will be avoided, but new, different ones will be made. I have a general outline in mind subject to edits as time goes on and more information appears.

Currently my primary sources include Italo Balbo: A Fascist Life (http://www.amazon.com/Italo-Balbo-Claudio-G-Segre/dp/0520071999/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241616919&sr=8-11) by Claudio G. Segre (a detailed an balanced account; the definitive English text on Balbo from what I can find - there's a good preview on Google Books for those interested), Fascist Eagle: Italy's Air Marshal Italo Balbo (http://www.amazon.com/Fascist-Eagle-Italys-Marshal-Italo/dp/1575100126/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241616722&sr=8-1) by Blaine Taylor (a good primer with some great pictures, though a little too laudatory), Mussolini and his Generals: The Armed Forces and Fascist Foreign Policy, 1922-1940 (Cambridge Military Histories) (http://www.amazon.com/Mussolini-his-Generals-1922-1940-Cambridge/dp/0521856027/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241616980&sr=8-1) by John Gooch (good overview of the Italian War Machine), Mussolini's Intellectuals: Fascist Social and Political Thought (http://www.amazon.com/Mussolinis-Intellectuals-Fascist-Political-Thought/dp/0691127905/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241617192&sr=8-27) by A. James Gregor (for politics and philosophy), and Mussolini's Italy: Life Under the Fascist Dictatorship, 1915-1945 (http://www.amazon.com/Mussolinis-Italy-Fascist-Dictatorship-1915-1945/dp/0143038567/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241616856&sr=8-1) by R. J. B. Bosworth (for "life under the regime" flavor info). I appreciate any additional recommendations you can give.

Please feel free to ask questions, comment, or offer suggestions. All constructive comments are welcome.

Geekhis...

Dr. Strangelove
May 6th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Futurist fascism? Hell yeah!

I'm so looking forward to this. :)

Alratan
May 6th, 2009, 02:28 PM
Sounds great.

Interested to see where it goes

Sir John A.
May 6th, 2009, 02:47 PM
I voted for this TL in your poll thread Geekhis and will definitely be following it all the way and I hope that the TL will live up to the promising and exciting introduction you've written here. I know it will. I also commend you for really digging in deep with the research, reading all those books. That is a sign of a truly dedicated TL-writer. Can't wait for the actual TL! :)

Hashasheen
May 6th, 2009, 05:02 PM
Geekis, if you abandon this TL, I will hunt you down and kill you with a falca. :)

037771
May 6th, 2009, 05:25 PM
Im very interested....subscribing...:cool:

Geekhis Khan
May 6th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Thank you all for the interest, support, threats of bodily harm, etc. :D

I will probably not get started on the actual TL for a couple of months or so. I still have reading to do and a baby to take care of in addition to the full-time job. Once started expect updates every couple of weeks.

Since few people know anything about Balbo I plan to start with a few posts pre-POD to set the stage. These, written from "post POD" views may contain a few nuggets and hints of the post-POD, as illustrated above.

Actual information on Balbo is hard to come by, at least in the Anglophone world. As I don't speak or read Italian I'm limited to (to the best of my knowledge) the two Balbo books above, one of which (Fascist Eagle) cites the other as a principle source. :rolleyes:

I only really learned about him through the Atlantic cruises (as above) thanks to my burgeoning obsession with flying boats. And what could warm a flying boat junkie's heart more than these beauties? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_S.55)

Here's (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=italo+balbo&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#) a google page of videos, including some still-incredible footage of the Chicago Century of Progress landing. It reminds me of something out of 1920's/30's sci-fi. :eek:

I found that there's a copy of Balbo's own (rare) "My Air Armada" about the above events at the Smithsonian Air & Space museum library, which if possible I will try to read as additional info and a look into how Balbo saw himself. Otherwise, mostly second- or third-hand sources and bits in other books about more well-known Fascists.

maverick
May 6th, 2009, 07:51 PM
This is a great start...Fascist Italy under Italo Balbo has always been an idea I've liked...I once embarked on a similar project, although starting in 1935...anyhow, please, keep this up...

Remember, bodily harm:p

lounge60
May 6th, 2009, 08:36 PM
Hmmm..
Very interesting.
And Balbo was a great friend of the United States.
Once Mussolini said: "Balbo is a democratic pig".
Italo was proudly aganist the laws aganist the jews,and don't like the nazis.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2042/bal4.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/686/bal2s.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1594/200412410045bal71.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9536/senzanomehsa.jpg

Geekhis Khan
May 6th, 2009, 11:47 PM
Great images, lounge! :)

And yes, Balbo was pro-Jewish and very outspoken against the antisemetic laws. Interestingly, when Goering came to visit him in Libya Balbo made sure to invite a few of his jewish friends to the dinner party. When Goering wanted a tour of Tripoli Balbo made sure to add a stop at the local synagog to the itinerary. Goering developed a "diplomatic illness".

Campbell1004
May 7th, 2009, 01:08 AM
First paragraph = jizzed in my pants.

I like the rest too. Balbo seems like a very interesting character.

lounge60
May 7th, 2009, 02:02 AM
And not forget "the conspirancy of the goatees":
Nel 1939, dalla fine di luglio al 19 agosto, fu messo in atto un tentativo per evitare la catastrofe della futura implicazione italiana nel conflitto che ebbe per protagonisti Italo Balbo,Dino Grandi e un personaggio insospettabile, il Principe Umberto di Savoia. La rivelazione dell'episodio passato inosservato ai più e che stava per mutare il corso della nostra storia ci viene da un giornalista americano, Frank Stevens, che il 10 ottobre 1939 scrisse per "El Tiempo", quotidiano di Bogotà, un'ampia corrispondenza dall'Italia in cui, esaminando la situazione politica del nostro Paese, dava notizia di una congiura "delle barbette" che, facendo perno su Grandi e Balbo, mirava a provocare un voto di sfiducia contro il Duce nel Gran Consiglio fascista per consentire al Re di destituire Mussolini e di formare un nuovo governo presieduto Da Grandi e Balbo e formato da personalità ostili al fascismo o da fascisti di tendenza antinazista TRAD:
In 1939 from late July to August 19, was put into effect an attempt to avoid catastrophe of the future Italian involvment in the conflict was featuring Italo Balbo, Dino Grandi and unsuspected character, Prince Umberto of Savoy. The revelation in the episode gone unnoticed and that more was going to change the course of our history comes from an American journalist, Frank Stevens, who on 10 October 1939 he wrote for "El Tiempo" newspaper of Bogotá, a correspondence from 'Italy in which, considering the political situation of our country, gave news of a conspiracy "of goatees, which, building on Grandi and Balbo, aimed to provoke a vote aganist the Duce in the Fascist Grand Council to allow the King dismissed Mussolini and to form a new government presided from Grandi and Balbo and trained by people hostile to fascism or fascist trend hostile to nazis.

lounge60
May 7th, 2009, 02:17 AM
More photos.
The last man is Dino Grandi.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4249/balbof.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6619/balbo1.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2817/balbopho.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1926/banda2q.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6758/balgg.jpg

Geekhis Khan
May 7th, 2009, 12:28 PM
According to Segre, at least, there's little solid evidence Balbo ever directly plotted against Mussolini. When the Axis, Pact of Steel, and Antisemetic laws were signed Balbo and Grandi spoke out against them at the Grand Council, but in the end did their duty. Like the conspiracy theories surrounding Balbo's death, any Balbian conspiracies for the overthrow of Mussie don't, according to Segre, appear to have any solid evidence.

Balbo did do everything "within the system" to oppose forming the Axis and was the central figure in the "loyal opposition", but he never, from what I can dig up, conspired in an overthrow plot, possibly because of his "sense of honor and duty", perhaps because he simply didn't have enough clout or allies to form a strong enough coalition.

Of course Mussie and Ciano were convinced such plots existed. But then again Mussie saw everything as a plot and feared Balbo for his popularity and political & organizational skills. Such political chess was certainly central in the decision to "exile" Balbo to Libya.

David bar Elias
May 7th, 2009, 08:10 PM
I look forward to more! :cool:

Hmm, under Balbo, could a large number of displaced European Jews find refuge in Italy?

lounge60
May 7th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I look forward to more! :cool:

Hmm, under Balbo, could a large number of displaced European Jews find refuge in Italy?
Is possible.

maverick
May 8th, 2009, 03:52 PM
So, when are you starting with the actual TL?:)

Geekhis Khan
May 8th, 2009, 04:03 PM
I look forward to more! :cool:

Hmm, under Balbo, could a large number of displaced European Jews find refuge in Italy?

;) 'e sez knowin'ly..............

Geekhis Khan
May 8th, 2009, 04:03 PM
So, when are you starting with the actual TL?:)

A couple of months, probably. Still reading...

Geekhis Khan
May 11th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Supplemental information, a Time article on the Armada's return to Rome and literal Triumph for Balbo:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,753905,00.html?iid=chix-sphere

Chris Oakley
May 11th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Sounds great.

Interested to see where it goes

I second that. :)

Geekhis Khan
May 17th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Thanks to everyone for the interest and words of encouragement.

Research progresses. I have finished Segre's book on Balbo and am reading Mussolini's Generals. Right now in this book it is the 20's and the biggest international problem is naval rivalry with the French. I've also found a copy of Balbo's own My Air Armada at the Smithsonian, which I can check out through a local library as part of a library loan program.

Also, a special thank you to lounge60 who has been very helpful in my research. He even found me the website and contact information of a friend of Paolo Balbo's (Italo's son). Grazie!

DuQuense
May 17th, 2009, 08:27 PM
Hmm, under Balbo, could a large number of displaced European Jews find refuge in Italy?Probably not in Italy proper, But I think a very large Jewish community in Italian Oriental Africa would be Interesting post war.

Geekhis Khan
May 17th, 2009, 09:57 PM
Probably not in Italy proper, But I think a very large Jewish community in Italian Oriental Africa would be Interesting post war.

*Nudge nudge, wink wink* ;)

lounge60
May 17th, 2009, 11:04 PM
Probably not in Italy proper, But I think a very large Jewish community in Italian Oriental Africa would be Interesting post war.
This work.
And about the Jews in Italian colonies i remember a proposal of Mussolini that wanted to give a large region of Ethiopia to Jews


In Etiopia?

Benito Mussolini (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini) nel 1938 (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938) propose ad Hitler la creazione di un territorio autonomo ebraico nel quale trasferire gli ebrei d'Europa, in Etiopia (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiopia), allora colonia italiana (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italia). Avrebbe dovuto sorgere sul modello della sovietica Oblast' autonoma ebraica (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblast%27_autonoma_ebraica) e nella regione etiope già abitata da ebrei, la regione dei Falascia (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falascia)[1] (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soluzione_finale_della_questione_ebraica#cite_note-0). Non è noto se Hitler abbia preso in considerazione il progetto.


"Benito Mussolini in 1938 to Hitler propose the creation of an autonomous Jewish territory in which to transfer the Jews of Europe, in Ethiopia, then Italian colony. Should have arisen on the model of Soviet Oblast 'and the Jewish autonomous region already inhabited by Ethiopian Jews, the region of Falasca [1]. It is not known if Hitler took into account the project".


And Balbo was much more friendly with the Jews (In Ferrara http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrara ,his hometown are a large Jews community)
So settlements of Jews refugees in Lybia (and in Ethiopia,too) is possible.
The Jews could help the economy of those Italian regions, Europeanise those lands (The Ferrarese Balbo knew and appreciated the Jews cosmopolite culture) ,and arouse simpaty for Italy.

richie42
May 17th, 2009, 11:17 PM
If there were large amounts of educated Jews in Ethiopia then we might see a very powerful nation. At least we won't see that mid '80s famine then.

Geekhis Khan
May 18th, 2009, 11:01 AM
I had no idea Mussie actually had an Ethiopian resettlement program in mind...Thanks again, lounge!

Geekhis Khan
May 18th, 2009, 11:11 AM
If there were large amounts of educated Jews in Ethiopia then we might see a very powerful nation. At least we won't see that mid '80s famine then.

We will likely still see the climactic-caused drought, however.

Geekhis Khan
June 3rd, 2009, 06:35 PM
Almost there, folks!

Still working on my research. Nearly through the 1920's in Mussy & Generals. That is one dense book! Work and family constraints have delayed me in that regard.

I also managed to find a copy of the Historical Dictionary of Fascist Italy (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0313213178/ref=ox_ya_oh_product) by Cannistraro, a professional resource and a wealth of knowledge on the players big and small.

Stand by, folks!

Geekhis Khan
June 6th, 2009, 05:29 PM
Happy Birthday Balbo! :D

Born Jun 5, 1896, but he celebrated his birthday on the 6th.

In celebration, another teaser:

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Protests, Counterprotests Rock Balbo Celebration

Patria Square, Rome, June 6, 2009 (AP News) - opposing groups of protesters disrupted this year's Balbo Day celebration, an annual and controversial ceremony sponsored by the Italian Fascist Party and celebrating the observed birthday of Italo Balbo, second "Duce" of the Italian Fascist state. Socialist political groups, Ethiopian and Rastafaarian groups, anti-Balbian Jewish groups, and various ethnic minorities were among those who marched against the quasi-official celebration. Such groups have protested the event for the last few years with protests gaining size and momentum with each new year. This year the protests reached the largest size yet and were met with an almost equally large counterprotest from Fascists, Fasci organization, nationalists, veterans' groups, pro-Balbian Jews, and conservative political groups.

"It was terrible," said Fascist party official Mussolini Ferrara, "while we understand that there are those revisionist elements who dislike our national hero, it is utterly abhorrent the way they disturb such a solemn event. While I and the Fascist party remain instruments of peace, brotherhood and order such anarchic behavior makes one sympathetic to the heavy-handed tactics of the past."

The protestors themselves called the event "a celebration of violence, hatred and imperialist agression." Said one protestor who identified herself as a Libertarian Socialist, "He was a thug. A blackshirted thug who used the cudgel and the boot to oppress the worker. Yes, he fought Hitler, but so what? A thug is a thug, even one not quite blind enough to overlook the machinations of a bigger thug." Said Shlomo Klein of the Hebrew Youth Front "I don't care what the Elder [Jews] say, Balbo was no friend of the Jew! You can call those camps a 'rescue' all you want. Babylon is Babylon. If anything, he was complicit in the Nazi genocide. Without Balbo there would have been no 'Final Solution'!"

Counter-protestors held opposite views. "Yes, regretably Marshal Balbo and his compatriots had to resort to some...strong means to save the nation from Marxism and Anarchism," said Fascist Minister Italo Cabrini, "but to ignore the great deeds he did for our nation in war and in peace is to deny the very soul of the [Italian] Patria!"

"Complicit in the Holocaust?" said Rabbi Israel Samet of the Zion Defence Council, there by invite of the Fascist party, "What is wrong with these kids? Balbo saved the Jewish people from utter annihilation! Have they not read Hitler's book? Read the nazi files? Hitler would have killed us all like he killed so many were it not for Niew Yisroyel!" He then revealed a number tattooed on his inner wrist, adding: "Babylon? These kids have no concept of what Babylon truly is!"

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berusconi was more reticint: "Yes, Marshal Balbo had some regretable past actions, but in total we the Italian people can not forget his courage and fortitude in the face of the great threats to this nation. He was a product of his times but also ahead of his times. He and the Fascist Party not only rescued our nation from disunity and poverty but elevated us to international power status and brought our nation the recognition and honor it now holds. In the end Balbo Day is about the heroics and honor and pride of the Commonwealth's people, and any Italian, Libyan, Jew, Somali, or indeed Berber should take pride in that."

The Sandman
June 7th, 2009, 12:49 AM
In the end Balbo Day is about the heroics and honor and pride of the Commonwealth's people, and any Italian, Libyan, Jew, Somali, or indeed Berber should take pride in that."[/SIZE][/FONT]
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"But those damn dirty Ethiopians can suck it!" :p

lounge60
June 7th, 2009, 12:56 AM
Happy Birthday,Balbo.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4619/95762818.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1792/wr1g.jpg

Geekhis Khan
June 7th, 2009, 07:20 PM
"But those damn dirty Ethiopians can suck it!" :p

Could it beeee...foreshadowing? ;)

PS: great pics, lounge! Where do you find these things?