Soviet Internal Borders

[crackersncheese]

Can anyone get me a map of the USSR's internal borders circa 1930? Actually, anytime before 1939 and after it was restructured into fifteen republics. You have my thanks.

[rubyug]

http://www.hymn.ru/15-union-republics/ussr1991-3.gif

Would that do?

[Aussie Guy]

http://www.hymn.ru/15-union-republics/ussr1991-3.gif

Would that do?

Those borders were established in 1956.

Anyway, crackersncheese, what year were you looking at for this map, specifically? Here are all the territorial changes up to 1938:



1922 - Georgian SSR, Armenian SSR and Azerbaijan SSR form Transcaucasian SFSR
1922 - Soviet Union formed from Russian SFSR, Transcaucasian SFSR, Ukrainian SSR, and Byelorussian SSR
1924 - Uzbek SSR and Turkmen SSR are formed from the Turkestan ASSR in the Russian SFSR.
1929 - Tajik SSR split from Uzbek SSR
1936 - In compliance with 1936 Soviet Constitution Kara-Kirghiz ASSR was split from RSFSR and transformed into Kazakh SSR and Kirghiz SSR
1936 - Transcaucasian SFSR split into Georgian SSR, Armenian SSR and Azerbaijan SSR.

Stolen from Wiki, by the way. What's important is that the original Soviet Union did not include the Baltic states like Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

[rubyug]

Those borders were established in 1956.

Anyway, crackersncheese, what year were you looking at for this map, specifically? Here are all the territorial changes up to 1938:



1922 - Georgian SSR, Armenian SSR and Azerbaijan SSR form Transcaucasian SFSR
1922 - Soviet Union formed from Russian SFSR, Transcaucasian SFSR, Ukrainian SSR, and Byelorussian SSR
1924 - Uzbek SSR and Turkmen SSR are formed from the Turkestan ASSR in the Russian SFSR.
1929 - Tajik SSR split from Uzbek SSR
1936 - In compliance with 1936 Soviet Constitution Kara-Kirghiz ASSR was split from RSFSR and transformed into Kazakh SSR and Kirghiz SSR
1936 - Transcaucasian SFSR split into Georgian SSR, Armenian SSR and Azerbaijan SSR.

Stolen from Wiki, by the way. What's important is that the original Soviet Union did not include the Baltic states like Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

GAH! Next time I should read the original post first.

[Qazaq2007]

Can anyone get me a map of the USSR's internal borders circa 1930? Actually, anytime before 1939 and after it was restructured into fifteen republics. You have my thanks.
You might be interested in this map, its an extract from my 1938 OW BAM. All internal borders are as of 1938, from the republic level down to oblast (region) level. Light pink areas are ASSRs (Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics), dark red is the RSFSR (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic), and light red are the other SSRs (Soviet Socialist Republics). The USSR in 1938 only had 11 SSRs. As can be seen on the map, the Baltic states were not part of the USSR, that came two years after this map, when the USSR and Nazi Germany carved up Eastern Europe between them. Also what is now known as Moldova was created in 1940 as Moldavian SSR, when the USSR annexed Bessarabia in 1940. Prior to 1940, Moldova was the Moldavian ASSR within the Ukrainian SSR, until it was elevated to an SSR and shifted westward and enlarged into its present form in Bessarabia, when it was annexed into the USSR.

[Qazaq2007]

Those borders were established in 1956.

Anyway, crackersncheese, what year were you looking at for this map, specifically? Here are all the territorial changes up to 1938:



1922 - Georgian SSR, Armenian SSR and Azerbaijan SSR form Transcaucasian SFSR
1922 - Soviet Union formed from Russian SFSR, Transcaucasian SFSR, Ukrainian SSR, and Byelorussian SSR
1924 - Uzbek SSR and Turkmen SSR are formed from the Turkestan ASSR in the Russian SFSR.
1929 - Tajik SSR split from Uzbek SSR
1936 - In compliance with 1936 Soviet Constitution Kara-Kirghiz ASSR was split from RSFSR and transformed into Kazakh SSR and Kirghiz SSR
1936 - Transcaucasian SFSR split into Georgian SSR, Armenian SSR and Azerbaijan SSR.
Stolen from Wiki, by the way. What's important is that the original Soviet Union did not include the Baltic states like Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.
Except for the Uzbek-Kazakh border, for the current boundary alignment wasn't established in its present form until the early 1960s.

[crackersncheese]

You might be interested in this map, its an extract from my 1938 OW BAM. All internal borders are as of 1938, from the republic level down to oblast (region) level. Light pink areas are ASSRs (Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics), dark red is the RSFSR (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic), and light red are the other SSRs (Soviet Socialist Republics). The USSR in 1938 only had 11 SSRs. As can be seen on the map, the Baltic states were not part of the USSR, that came two years after this map, when the USSR and Nazi Germany carved up Eastern Europe between them. Also what is now known as Moldova was created in 1940 as Moldavian SSR, when the USSR annexed Bessarabia in 1940. Prior to 1940, Moldova was the Moldavian ASSR within the Ukrainian SSR, until it was elevated to an SSR and shifted westward and enlarged into its present form in Bessarabia, when it was annexed into the USSR.

Thanks, thats perfect!

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Thanks, thats perfect!

It's got Georgia wrong.

[Qazaq2007]

It's got Georgia wrong.
Actually the borders of Georgia are accurate for 1938, the only difference from the present day, is that hump in the western part of the country, which was there until Nikita Khruschev decided to snip away that hump, and reassign that patch of land to the RSFSR in the mid 1950s.

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Actually the borders of Georgia are accurate for 1938, the only difference from the present day, is that hump in the western part of the country, which was there until Nikita Khruschev decided to snip away that hump, and reassign that patch of land to the RSFSR in the mid 1950s.

I'm gonna need a source for that. I have read that Georgia was assigned some territories from the Karachay AO, Kabardino-Balkar ASSR and Chechen-Ingush ASSR. However, all but the Karachay AO were east of the hump and the transfer took place during WWII after the Karachays, Balkars, Chechens and Ingush were accused of collaborating with the Nazis and deported. It was those areas that Khrushchev took away - restored, to be more accurate. So the map can't be accurate for 1938. It looks more like someone forgot to put it the borders between Georgia and the Karachay AO of Russia.

And there's still the matter of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Adjara. Seems like he forgot those borders too.

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Here's one I found in my personal collection:

[Tyg]

Dr. PH, that map is relevant to my interests. Thanks for posting it.

[Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy]

Dr. PH, that map is relevant to my interests. Thanks for posting it.

Happy to help.