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Mike O'Neal
August 17th, 2008, 07:44 AM
So everything and everyone within one square mile of you right now is sent back to 1752. What happens? Oh and just to make sure we don't all die of various diseases we are made immune to all diseases of that time.
Fardell
August 17th, 2008, 09:41 AM
So you mean all the members of AH.com?
What do you mean by 'Within one square mile'?
An area around the person in question that is a square mile? If so is it circular?
Or an area within a mile (or 1.6km) radius of where the person in question is?
Volksgrenadier2006
August 17th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Wow at that time, the place im in was just at its end of the golden age, and im living close to a technological university, so we could return being a super power. The knowledge of Steel Ships, Airplanes, Civil Engineering, electro engineering, and enough wealth at that time to invest, that makes a very interesting 1752.
super12345
August 17th, 2008, 04:34 PM
I'm on a college campus, so there are lots of smart people. Then again, I don't want to be a British colony.
mattep74
August 17th, 2008, 04:41 PM
You just helped Sweden get modern medicine in 1752 since i live next door to the hospital in my town and outside my window is also the library that has a copy of the story of the finish war. Gustav the third of Sweden now knows who his enemies are.
Russia is SOOOOOOOOO screwed.
Communist Wizard
August 17th, 2008, 04:56 PM
You just helped Sweden get modern medicine in 1752 since i live next door to the hospital in my town and outside my window is also the library that has a copy of the story of the finish war. Gustav the third of Sweden now knows who his enemies are.
Russia is SOOOOOOOOO screwed.
*Midgard and me show up*
Hmm... I think we should take Stockholm first, no?
NomadicSky
August 17th, 2008, 05:24 PM
When you posted this I wasn't in a great area of this I think many people in my zone would fare off well enough though.
I was at my friend Shaynes house she lives out in rural farm country with a mile you have corn, corn, and maybe cotton. Plenty of food for the five or so families transported back.
Mike O'Neal
August 17th, 2008, 07:01 PM
So you mean all the members of AH.com?
What do you mean by 'Within one square mile'?
An area around the person in question that is a square mile? If so is it circular?
Or an area within a mile (or 1.6km) radius of where the person in question is?
One square mile around where you were at the time of the POD. Its a square mile. And yes I mean everyone who has ever registered on AH.com.
Mr. Evangelical
August 17th, 2008, 07:04 PM
You have put my house, property, and some neighbors back into Colonial Georgia. Since Central GA around The Oconee River was still Indian land, I have a feeling they'll look at us like, "How the fuck did White people get here?"
mattep74
August 17th, 2008, 07:12 PM
*Midgard and me show up*
Hmm... I think we should take Stockholm first, no?
Why? Lets just show the goverment Herman Lindqvists historybooks and industrialisation becomes reality:D
tpj.kevin
August 18th, 2008, 11:46 AM
I wake up in some goddamned pepper plantation. Not too bad methinks.
Promethean
August 18th, 2008, 12:12 PM
Holland now gains 21st century agricultural techniques. So Sweden we dont need your grain anymore :p
Chilperic
August 18th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Well, England would gain supermarket technology, and a hospital....
mattep74
August 18th, 2008, 12:38 PM
In 1752 the 7-year war was in full swing btw
baggins
August 18th, 2008, 03:05 PM
In 1752 the 7-year war was in full swing btw
Dang it.There's a barracks near me that will be just missed by the ISOT :mad:
Raymann
August 18th, 2008, 05:18 PM
So everything and everyone within one square mile of you right now is sent back to 1752. What happens?
Oh boy, I work on K St. about 1/4 mile from the White House. So that come back with me, a bunch of gov't buildings, a massive security force, and most of George Washington university.
euio
August 18th, 2008, 05:29 PM
In 1752 the 7-year war was in full swing btw
It started in 1756 in Europe and 1754 in the Americas.
Fenwick
August 18th, 2008, 05:36 PM
Well I have a walmart, home depot, a police station and training center, plus a few dozen other things.
Now assuming people can get those windmills about to work just for what is around and maintain them then we have a really good position.
admkenshin
August 18th, 2008, 05:37 PM
It started in 1756 in Europe and 1754 in the Americas.
You're forgetting the changes to history caused by the ISOT, it started in 1752 ;).
perfectgeneral
August 18th, 2008, 07:26 PM
Damn! Missed Marshall's airport with 1x AWACS and 3x Hercules parked up outside an aerospace engineering facility and the Vehicle engineering facility over the road, working on a 2000 lorry order for off road logistics vehicles for the army.
Also missed ARM chip design bureau, Booker supermarket distribution and the barracks. The Science Park! All those bleeding edge industrial units.
What I did get makes that look like small fry. :D
Cambridge University, including Chemistry, Engineering and the University Copyright Library. The Botanical Gardens. Seeley Historical Library. Fitzwilliam Museum. Exam Syndicate. Police Station. Fire Station. Kings College Chapel (cathedral). Clare College. King's College. St.Cat's College. Queens College. The Leys Private School. Downing College. Archeology and Anthropology Museum. Department of Earth Sciences, including the Sedgwick Museum. Parkside Community College. Cambridge Medical School. The Senate House. The Masonic Lodge. Trinity Hall College. Corpus Christi College. Pembroke College. The Bus Terminus. Emanuel College. Lion Yard Shopping Centre and the Grand Arcade. The Mathematics Department. Newnham College, Wolfson College. St. Marys Convent School. Church of Our Lady and the English Martyrs. Banks, Bars, Shops and Restaurants. The Market Square. Some of those 'government' buildings (The military bunker?). The Law faculty. The History Faculty. Selwyn College. Cambridge University Rifle Association are the best shots of all the university rifle associations at present. The Judge Institute of Management studies. Peterhouse College. The Guildhall (local Government and planning building). Cars, Houses, Bikes, Buses, Cabs, about 45,000 people, typically 50% with at least a college degree and 30% studying for one. :cool:
My game I believe.
perfectgeneral
August 18th, 2008, 07:40 PM
I wonder if I've saved Thande's computer? :) I suppose I'll find out when he gets back from Canada. I wonder where his square mile is? I guess we could find out when he gets back.
If he uses the University Computer Department servers he will be fine.
There are vaults under this part of Cambridge that store the nations most vital secret schematics and designs under armed guard.
British Telecom (BT) also have a special secure building of mysterious purpose.
The Security services still recruit here, so I would expect there to be at least one MI5 recruiter in the area.
The Gregorian calender has come a few months early to central Cambridge.
Robert Clive is alive in India (unless a square mile landed on him). We must help him.
Hanover and America are under the rule of George II. This is total Britwank.
Finn
August 18th, 2008, 08:04 PM
The native tribes in this area wonder how the White Man learned to teleport, and the French settlers about a mile down river panic and flee onto barges when they see the British (actually Americans) have arrived and built a highly advanced town in their backyards over night.
AirshipArmada
August 18th, 2008, 08:51 PM
Northern Seattle, Washington State.
The Seattle Space Needle would be just within the southern border, most of the University of Washington would make the hop, so would the zoo. Lake Union, half of Green Lake, part of Lake Washington and most of the Ship Canal comes over, but not the Ballard Locks. Lots of boats, marinas, shipyards, the Center for Wooden Boats, and a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration site would also accompany me to my new era.
The old half of Green Lake would flood the lower new half, causing troubles. But the lack of the Ballard Locks is a big problem; Lake Washington would start draining into the sea. First order of business would be to get a dam in place.
We also get Kenmore Air which runs small fleet of sea planes, so we would be able to reconnoiter the area, but fuel would be a big problem.
The area has only been visited by a couple of Spanish explorers and is inhabited by a largish number of indians who would not necessarily be friendly.
Can we get in contact (via ham radio) to other enclaves from other board members?
userid
August 19th, 2008, 09:45 AM
Well my brother and i are both members so 1 mile around my house and 1 mile around his apartment down the road. some over lap but alot of buildings in the town are pulled back.
Detroitman32
August 19th, 2008, 02:18 PM
Damn! Missed Marshall's airport with 1x AWACS and 3x Hercules parked up outside an aerospace engineering facility and the Vehicle engineering facility over the road, working on a 2000 lorry order for off road logistics vehicles for the army.
Also missed ARM chip design bureau, Booker supermarket distribution and the barracks. The Science Park! All those bleeding edge industrial units.
What I did get makes that look like small fry. :D
Cambridge University, including Chemistry, Engineering and the University Copyright Library. The Botanical Gardens. Seeley Historical Library. Fitzwilliam Museum. Exam Syndicate. Police Station. Fire Station. Kings College Chapel (cathedral). Clare College. King's College. St.Cat's College. Queens College. The Leys Private School. Downing College. Archeology and Anthropology Museum. Department of Earth Sciences, including the Sedgwick Museum. Parkside Community College. Cambridge Medical School. The Senate House. The Masonic Lodge. Trinity Hall College. Corpus Christi College. Pembroke College. The Bus Terminus. Emanuel College. Lion Yard Shopping Centre and the Grand Arcade. The Mathematics Department. Newnham College, Wolfson College. St. Marys Convent School. Church of Our Lady and the English Martyrs. Banks, Bars, Shops and Restaurants. The Market Square. Some of those 'government' buildings (The military bunker?). The Law faculty. The History Faculty. Selwyn College. Cambridge University Rifle Association are the best shots of all the university rifle associations at present. The Judge Institute of Management studies. Peterhouse College. The Guildhall (local Government and planning building). Cars, Houses, Bikes, Buses, Cabs, about 45,000 people, typically 50% with at least a college degree and 30% studying for one. :cool:
My game I believe.
Lucky. I get nothing except houses. On google maps you get a taste for how big the US is. :( Unless our local hosting ASB is kind enough include the local college (far chance), and in that case I get a business, social sciences, and psychology schools with me.
userid
August 19th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Ok just did a check and found within 1 mile of me we have 3 elementary schools 2 private one public. 1 middle school. 1 post office. 1 fedex center. 1 MVA. half the industrial park. 2 USDA test fields. 1 costco. around 30 smaller stores. 1 auto parts store. 1 aerospace company(that i know of). 3 fast food. 1 police station. 1 public libary. and alot of houses.
perfectgeneral
August 19th, 2008, 11:29 PM
Ok just did a check and found within 1 mile of me we have 3 elementary schools 2 private one public. 1 middle school. 1 post office. 1 fedex center. 1 MVA. half the industrial park. 2 USDA test fields. 1 costco. around 30 smaller stores. 1 auto parts store. 1 aerospace company(that i know of). 3 fast food. 1 police station. 1 public libary. and alot of houses.
It's within a square mile not within a mile radius.
Codae
August 19th, 2008, 11:41 PM
It's within a square mile not within a mile radius.
And, asuming it's circular, the radius would be about 908 meters.
perfectgeneral
August 21st, 2008, 12:10 AM
I assumed that it was a mile by a mile. I'm quite literal like that.
WilsonTGreat
August 21st, 2008, 12:39 AM
hmm, at the moment 1752 would get an awful lot of trees, some semi detached houses and maybe (if they're lucky) a tractor.
in this situation, and i don't mean to be blowing my own horn here, the best thing to come back in this square mile would be me... a physics student with lots of random knowledge...
and there may even be a shotgun around my village somewhere...
and they might get a bit of a distillery, huzzah, and maybe a train, although that wouldn't be very good for the passengers (who would very quickly run out of track)
possibly the most boring ISOT in history, but i may be able to trigger an earlier industrial revolution if i play my cards right...
Chuck Mandus
August 21st, 2008, 12:39 AM
I think I'm screwed, all I would get is most of my neighborhood, houses, cars and whatever you would find in a typical suburban house. My only hope is to hook up in a network with any AHer's bear me. IIRC, Demon Kangaroo is close to me, hope he has better luck.
Communist Wizard
August 21st, 2008, 12:56 AM
So, we get a mile of southern Brooklyn. Ironically, I'm surrounded by a sea of of Russian and Chinese immigrant communities. Also, we have the docks down there, with lots of sailing ships, and also a university. I'm not sure if the latter comes, however. Yay? With so many excellently proficient in Russian and Chinese, I wonder if Russia gets some extras.
perfectgeneral
August 21st, 2008, 06:37 AM
Sudden changes in technology usually disturb the balance of power. We can expect trouble. AH-ers will not reach a political consensus. They will encourage governments to advance technologically, tool up and go to war. All American AH-ers will be rounded up as trouble makers :eek::D:rolleyes::p.
Youdontwanttoknow
August 21st, 2008, 06:50 AM
The native tribes in this area wonder how the White Man learned to teleport, and the French settlers about a mile down river panic and flee onto barges when they see the British (actually Americans) have arrived and built a highly advanced town in their backyards over night.
Likewise the Aborginals in my area will freak when a fully fledged city appears on their tranditional hunting grounds.... Not to mention they will be mesmerised by the casino, skyscrapers and golden arches denoting food. There would also probably a horde of pissed off office workers wanting to go home... and finding that their homes are no longer there, so they now have to live at work! Might boost productivity levels however...
I wonder what Captain James Cook will think when he sails past Moreton Bay in 1778 or what the British think when he comes back saying he found the long lost southern city.
ps I am in the CBD area of Brisbane, Australia.
boredatwork
August 21st, 2008, 03:54 PM
Interesting times ahead.
On the 17th I was waving goodbye to a cousin whose amtrak until was leaving the dock at Hampton Roads.
So - tidewater virginia suddenly gets a large population of US military (NAVY & USMC mainly, some AF as well, and a hefty chunk of civilian contractors), along with a bit of dockside instalations, and some ships. The fact that the larger ships are probably sliced at odd angles due to the ISOT cut-off helps prevent total Ameriwank. (Might even lead to some explosive awkwardness depending on the relation between the cutoff line and the ships internals - don't think there were any boomer subs there, but I never paid enough attention to that end of things to be able to tell) But there's still enough fuel, ammo, and personnel (including 1 full amphib ship leaving with folks for an Iraq rotation) that things would be interesting (for a short while, until the fuel runs out).
I'm pretty sure that the coast line and sea levels have shifted around the Cheseapeake over the last 250+ years as well, so that could make things interesting as well.
Dave Howery
August 21st, 2008, 05:27 PM
great. A chunk of Cheyenne residential housing and some empty countryside get sent to the howling wilderness of Wyoming... no food, no farms, no businesses... as I starve to death, my final act is to give the finger to the ASBs....
Halcyon Dayz
August 21st, 2008, 06:29 PM
Presuming there isn't to much overlap, the 21th Centurians have a territory the size of a small country,
and a population of at least several 100,000s, maybe more, lots of slices of several big, modern cities.
Considering the cultural divide between them and the rest of the world, which IMO would be much larger
than any differences amongst themselves, they might very well decide to become countries, or a country,
of their own.
The Federated Squares from the Future. ;)
paxau
August 21st, 2008, 07:22 PM
Holland now gains 21st century agricultural techniques. So Sweden we dont need your grain anymore :p
Damn you sneaky dutchman!:mad:
Leo Caesius
August 21st, 2008, 07:24 PM
I'm just out of sight of La Guardia airport... I've got a major film studio, a few schools, a few churches, and an old piano factory... not much to work with.
At least the land is pretty fertile.
Wolf
August 21st, 2008, 08:34 PM
I'd do fine. I'm on the campus of the University of New Mexico. So we'd have historian,s scientists, ROTC folks. And lots of people. AH.com 2008wank!
Leo Caesius
August 21st, 2008, 09:31 PM
I'm just out of sight of La Guardia airport... I've got a major film studio, a few schools, a few churches, and an old piano factory... not much to work with.
At least the land is pretty fertile.Alright, I have:
a Best Buy and a PC Richards within a mile of me,
two or three supermarkets,
a few factories (Steinway and Sons, a glass factory, a fan and blower factory) just south of me,
a public library,
dozens of liquor stores,
a few bakeries (including a Dunkin Donuts bakery that smells divine),
a few warehouses,
a couple churches and at least one mosque,
a few gyms,
a television studio,
the Museum of the Moving Image,
some public schools (including a Catholic school, "Most Precious Blood," and a madrassa ("El-Ber Islamic School"),
a few workshops (including a glazier),
and plenty of construction, so we'll throw in some contractors and construction workers to boot.
So far, there's lots of potential. The population is daunting, though; we have over 165,000 (http://www.nextag.com/home-mortgage/2/NY/Astoria.html) in all of Astoria (I have to wonder how many will come through and how many will be left behind).
userid
August 22nd, 2008, 01:19 AM
Anyone live next to a power plant? Have a well? own a chain saw, axe, wood stove?
We might have tech but that isnt going to help the first year or 2. You need to have survival skills to last till next growing season. Our power, water, fuel will be cut off. Unless you have backups that will last you 6-8 months including food or trade goods. your going to be in a world of hurt.
Important items will be wood heating (fire place, wood stove) weapons both long range and close up, trade goods. there will be locals that arnt going to be happy and wild life we arnt used to when was the last time you saw a bear or mountain lion?
One of the other big things will be disease. yes we will be bring back our current strains but we will also run into the old ones we arnt used to. a 300 year old strain of the flu will be bad to catch.
perfectgeneral
August 22nd, 2008, 02:54 AM
Re-read the first post. We are immune to the diseases of the day.
Not that inoculation would be a problem for the Cambridge University medical school.
Cambridge has natural spring water and peat fuel for fires. Windmills would exploit the Fen Blow by now but we would have to start the Black Sluice Act (1765) early. The Fens contain about 50% of the grade 1 soil in the UK. Well worth draining.
Chuck Mandus
August 22nd, 2008, 03:43 AM
great. A chunk of Cheyenne residential housing and some empty countryside get sent to the howling wilderness of Wyoming... no food, no farms, no businesses... as I starve to death, my final act is to give the finger to the ASBs....
Bummer. Maybe you can get enough fuel to take an SUV from Cheyenne to the Chesapeake and join up with "boredatwork." I'd consider that option although I'm much closer here in Pittsburgh, a Ford Explorer should make it although there is a new section of rich patio homes where there are a few Hummers up there too. If the Chesapeake had any oil refineries come through, perhaps we can make a deal with boredatwork in exchange for fuel and food, we can be his outposts. I think a better idea is to have a network, we have our political differences but we call can and should put them aside and work for the common good. IIRC, I think the ship base and any refineries that come through, they can make a deal with Colonial George Washington where we can link up to here in Pittsburgh. I'm sure there are other AHer's between you and me where we can "island hop" plus at least here, we do have coal and oil, IIRC, I think Wyoming would have lots of coal too.
Dave Howery
August 22nd, 2008, 05:15 AM
eh.... how am I going to drive anywhere? The roads end where my mile circle radius ends.... no way am I going to be able to drive across gullies, buffalo wallows, rivers (no bridges!). Not to mention, no fuel stops, no replacement parts, no spare tires...
honestly, I think my best bet would be to load up whatever food I can with my camping gear and walk to CA... at least the winters would be nicer...
userid
August 22nd, 2008, 05:56 PM
Yep no driving to ether coast. you have no bridges and lost of trees and or rock between where you show up to where the rest of us are. Also no fuels for any modern cars they didnt start refining oil untill the 1800-1900s and that was just to get kerosene for lamps when wale oil became to hard to get.
Wile there might be roads from new york city to Baltimore Maryland they arnt going to be ones you would take a normal car on. a hummer h1 might survive them but dont count on it. Your best bet is water. in the center of the US head to the mississippi and make/trade for a boat ride the river down to the gulf and catch a ship to the east coast.
Chuck Mandus
August 25th, 2008, 06:52 AM
Yep no driving to ether coast. you have no bridges and lost of trees and or rock between where you show up to where the rest of us are. Also no fuels for any modern cars they didnt start refining oil untill the 1800-1900s and that was just to get kerosene for lamps when wale oil became to hard to get.
Wile there might be roads from new york city to Baltimore Maryland they arnt going to be ones you would take a normal car on. a hummer h1 might survive them but dont count on it. Your best bet is water. in the center of the US head to the mississippi and make/trade for a boat ride the river down to the gulf and catch a ship to the east coast.
Well, I'd probably still try motorized transport if I can gather enough fuel to make it to the Navy base in Norfolk if the option is to leave. I think if I could find a motorcycle, preferably a trailbike, it would do better. I would have to make it across the Appalachians. Alternately, a mountain bike would be good if I can take some spare tires.
If I can have fuel or at least a Twilight: 2000 style still for fuel and some spare parts ir rip off the Morrow Project for a fusion pack, a cool vehicle to have would be a World War II era DUKW, basically a 6 wheeled truck that's a boat.
userid
August 25th, 2008, 09:34 AM
Well, I'd probably still try motorized transport if I can gather enough fuel to make it to the Navy base in Norfolk if the option is to leave. I think if I could find a motorcycle, preferably a trailbike, it would do better. I would have to make it across the Appalachians. Alternately, a mountain bike would be good if I can take some spare tires.
If I can have fuel or at least a Twilight: 2000 style still for fuel and some spare parts ir rip off the Morrow Project for a fusion pack, a cool vehicle to have would be a World War II era DUKW, basically a 6 wheeled truck that's a boat.
Yah that would let you travel easy. you want to follow the rivers because they are fast to travel and you know that there will be people along them.
demonkangaroo
August 25th, 2008, 02:26 PM
Well, there's an Ohio Air National Guard Base nearby, plus one small branch of OSU, two smallish cities, and a helluva lot of farmland, plus some heavy industry ( a GM plant, and a steel working plant) Assuming that we all don't riot, and die, I could see an Ohio wank developing from this. :cool:
Bavarian Raven
August 25th, 2008, 03:55 PM
lol i am on the west coast of BC :D
and i have port facilities + housing + ships (including a few crabbing/fishing boats), a powerplant and a refinery :D not to mention a hunting + fishing store:rolleyes:
welcome to cascadia
Chingo360
August 25th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Considering I'm at Penn State, one square mile literally has EVERYTHING in it. :D
gilbertk1993
August 26th, 2008, 01:27 AM
Northern Seattle, Washington State.
The Seattle Space Needle would be just within the southern border, most of the University of Washington would make the hop, so would the zoo. Lake Union, half of Green Lake, part of Lake Washington and most of the Ship Canal comes over, but not the Ballard Locks. Lots of boats, marinas, shipyards, the Center for Wooden Boats, and a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration site would also accompany me to my new era.
The old half of Green Lake would flood the lower new half, causing troubles. But the lack of the Ballard Locks is a big problem; Lake Washington would start draining into the sea. First order of business would be to get a dam in place.
We also get Kenmore Air which runs small fleet of sea planes, so we would be able to reconnoiter the area, but fuel would be a big problem.
The area has only been visited by a couple of Spanish explorers and is inhabited by a largish number of indians who would not necessarily be friendly.
Can we get in contact (via ham radio) to other enclaves from other board members?
i live in bellevue, washington state...i could prolly visit u...its wat? half an hour drive i think:confused:
all i have within one square mile is a suburban neighborhood, and maybe if im lucky, a supermarket...i guess it wouldnt call it a supermarket, not big enuf. and if im realy, realy lucky, 2 or three restaurants/pubs, and two gas stations.
im too lazy to look if i actually have those. if i do, ill prolly be safe for a few weeks til the food runs out, or wen some asshole decides to shoot everyone or some bastard decides to jack or burn the food.
if i dont have it, ill prolly be dead in a week or two from starvation. or from natives. if im lucky, those natives will offer me food.:D
Jambor
August 26th, 2008, 01:39 AM
Ok... I'm stuck in a inhospitable desert where none of my technology works, and there is a possiblility that I might not meet any one for miles. That or I could land right inside of a Rancharoes Ranch. (I highly, highly, highly doubt this, because I live on a hill with strong dirt, not exactly the best place to grow things.) So... I'm stuck having to live off the land, and all the things I have to help me do it don't work, or will cease to work soon... this is not going to turn out favorably for me. Thanks alot.
perfectgeneral
September 16th, 2008, 04:36 PM
It occurs to me that I've made a good case for targeting Cambridge in a nuclear attack. :eek:
What size bomb has a blast radius of about half a mile?
perfectgeneral
November 7th, 2008, 04:21 PM
It occurs to me that I've made a good case for targeting Cambridge in a nuclear attack. :eek:
What size bomb has a blast radius of about half a mile?
One kiloton detonated 200 metres above the ground. A suitcase bomb.
Snarf
November 7th, 2008, 05:45 PM
Let's see...I'm in the US Food and Drug Administration's Los Angeles District Office, Irvine, California...
The FDA District Office also has a full research laboratory, lots and lots of people with advanced degrees in chemistry and biology, and plenty-o-IT. There's also armed guards at the gate, which will be handy when the building drops in next to the Indian village that was located along the Newport Back Bay during that period. ;)
Within one mile I have UC Irvine, full of even more people with advanced degrees in just about everything, along with a library, laboratory space, and everything else a major state university would own (along with an ag program, machine shops, nationally-known medical and veterinary school programs--and its own police force).
Going in the other direction is John Wayne Airport. Lots of airliners and private aircraft, but nowhere else on the planet to land them (just yet). Plenty of helicopters for recon as long as the fuel holds out...but then again the oil fields of Huntington Beach are just a few miles north. We can fix that problem eventually. The airport is patrolled by its own airport police and the Orange County Sheriff's Department, and there are going to be more than a few armed officers on duty there (some of them with major firepower--M-16's, tactical shotguns, etc.)
In between are lots of high-tech manufacturing facilities (primarily IT and biotech), a car dealership, and the sort of businesses you'd expect to be servicing a light industrial park (restaurants, banks, Starbucks, copy shops, etc.). There are also at least two churches. There's bound to be a few Irvine and Newport Beach cops, and CHP in the area at the time (MacArthur Blvd. between Jamboree and Bristol is a ticket-writer's paradise!) Throw in also the chunk of the 405 and 55 Freeways, and the 73 toll road that gets caught in the net, and who knows what that will yield.
The Spanish haven't shown up in force yet, and won't for another 17 years. The local Indians are by all accounts peaceful and most people would be more interested in trying to strike up a good relationship with them than with trying to enslave or exterminate them. Between the medical staff at UC Irvine and the PHS doctors, nurses, and pharmacists at FDA the local population can be insulated from most European diseases fairly quickly. The local churches can establish at least a friendly relationship with the Indians so that they'll be prepared when the Spanish try to impose their not-so-friendly religious missions. There's not a heavy military presence but there are enough veterans, cops and high-end security guards between all of the aforementioned to make a hostile Indian (or European) force think twice.
By the time the Spanish do show up, they'll be in for a very rude surprise. The Orange County enclave will be doing rather nicely...
Snarf
November 7th, 2008, 06:01 PM
if i dont have it, ill prolly be dead in a week or two from starvation. or from natives. if im lucky, those natives will offer me food.:D
Your local Indians did have the potlatch ceremony, so you'll eat really well...as long as you've got plenty to give in return. ;)
boredatwork
November 7th, 2008, 07:17 PM
Irvine, California...
You should be close-ish to the old El Toro base, if I'm remembering correctly. That might've been a nice pick up - at least for a 1-way trip to the Atlantic Uptime-Corridor.
Guess it wouldn't matter now, what with it being decommissioned and all (it was, wasn't it? pretty sure it was on the list).
Snarf
November 8th, 2008, 01:25 AM
You should be close-ish to the old El Toro base, if I'm remembering correctly. That might've been a nice pick up - at least for a 1-way trip to the Atlantic Uptime-Corridor.
Guess it wouldn't matter now, what with it being decommissioned and all (it was, wasn't it? pretty sure it was on the list).
That's too far away from the given radius, and in any case has been completely demolished except for a few office buildings used by the county. Housing developments and park land are expected...
Tucker Dwynn
November 8th, 2008, 01:45 AM
i live in bellevue, washington state...i could prolly visit u...its wat? half an hour drive i think:confused:
all i have within one square mile is a suburban neighborhood, and maybe if im lucky, a supermarket...i guess it wouldnt call it a supermarket, not big enuf. and if im realy, realy lucky, 2 or three restaurants/pubs, and two gas stations.
im too lazy to look if i actually have those. if i do, ill prolly be safe for a few weeks til the food runs out, or wen some asshole decides to shoot everyone or some bastard decides to jack or burn the food.
if i dont have it, ill prolly be dead in a week or two from starvation. or from natives. if im lucky, those natives will offer me food.:D
And I live on Education Hill, in Redmond, WA... A few stores down the hill, and a few shops as well. At least we'd be close to each other. The more folks we have, the easier it would be to spread out, have some control, and get food from the wild. I'd get sooo sick of salmon...
We could probibly have roads built in a couple months between all our areas.
We could "farm up" the land between us fairly easy. Quite a few gardening shops.. and I know a Ham that lives within the mile, so there would be "hope" as we contacted other ISOT'd areas. People can do a lot with hope.
Anyone else near Seattle Metro area?
NomadicSky
November 8th, 2008, 02:30 AM
I'm sure it won't be to many years before there's a powerplant but the death toll is probably going to be crazy the first year.
Snarf
November 8th, 2008, 06:32 AM
You should be close-ish to the old El Toro base, if I'm remembering correctly. That might've been a nice pick up - at least for a 1-way trip to the Atlantic Uptime-Corridor.
Guess it wouldn't matter now, what with it being decommissioned and all (it was, wasn't it? pretty sure it was on the list).
Actually John Wayne Airport would work for that job...and if anyone (particularly some skilled petroleum engineers and roughnecks) wants to make the trip back to the ISOTed OC, we could use the help getting to that oil... :p
drrockso20
November 8th, 2008, 07:44 AM
I'm also in irvine so chances are that the best idea would be to go down to mexico to the spanish government and convince them to loan us some ships so we can get to the east coast since the english are probably are best hope besides the spanish
Starleaf
November 8th, 2008, 01:45 PM
I live in Karlskrona, so all of a sudden the Swedes of this time have nearly the entire swedish navy from our time and three top-modern subs. We will also have some stores, a library, a swimming hall, lots of people, and some other things you generally find in cities. The big problem will be to feed all the people...
perfectgeneral
November 8th, 2008, 02:07 PM
I'm sure that the 'locals' would be glad to take a family each into their communities. These families would spread ideas from uptime and advance the whole country.
Alexius
November 8th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Damn! Missed Marshall's airport with 1x AWACS and 3x Hercules parked up outside an aerospace engineering facility and the Vehicle engineering facility over the road, working on a 2000 lorry order for off road logistics vehicles for the army.
Also missed ARM chip design bureau, Booker supermarket distribution and the barracks. The Science Park! All those bleeding edge industrial units.
What I did get makes that look like small fry. :D
Cambridge University, including Chemistry, Engineering and the University Copyright Library. The Botanical Gardens. Seeley Historical Library. Fitzwilliam Museum. Exam Syndicate. Police Station. Fire Station. Kings College Chapel (cathedral). Clare College. King's College. St.Cat's College. Queens College. The Leys Private School. Downing College. Archeology and Anthropology Museum. Department of Earth Sciences, including the Sedgwick Museum. Parkside Community College. Cambridge Medical School. The Senate House. The Masonic Lodge. Trinity Hall College. Corpus Christi College. Pembroke College. The Bus Terminus. Emanuel College. Lion Yard Shopping Centre and the Grand Arcade. The Mathematics Department. Newnham College, Wolfson College. St. Marys Convent School. Church of Our Lady and the English Martyrs. Banks, Bars, Shops and Restaurants. The Market Square. Some of those 'government' buildings (The military bunker?). The Law faculty. The History Faculty. Selwyn College. Cambridge University Rifle Association are the best shots of all the university rifle associations at present. The Judge Institute of Management studies. Peterhouse College. The Guildhall (local Government and planning building). Cars, Houses, Bikes, Buses, Cabs, about 45,000 people, typically 50% with at least a college degree and 30% studying for one. :cool:
My game I believe.
I get pretty much the same stuff as you.
By the way, where exactly are you?
Snarf
November 8th, 2008, 06:09 PM
I'm also in irvine so chances are that the best idea would be to go down to mexico to the spanish government and convince them to loan us some ships so we can get to the east coast since the english are probably are best hope besides the spanish
Where in Irvine? It would be good to finally meet someone from this list...
As for the Spanish, there's really no reason they'd help out (particularly seeing as how we're trying to get in contact with the English--only the French would be likely to provoke a more negative response from the viceroy). They'd likely send a military expedition up our way to see what was going on, or imprison whoever we send down there for a ransom and continued tribute to the Spanish crown.
Just getting to Mexico City's going to be a pain in the ass (unless one of our enclaves is in Mexico City and includes the airport), and even assuming we get the ships, it's a voyage around the end of South America in 18th-century vessels that didn't always make the trip. That is, unless we send our expedition ahead to Vera Cruz and sail across the Caribbean and around Florida to Carolina...and if it's happening in early November we're still running the risk of hurricanes. We'd have an edge in terms of being able to predict the weather but not many options with the information we get. We'd be better off trying to make radio contact with the East Coast, finding out which enclave has a commerical airport or military airstrip, and then making the flight.
Now, if you can get close enough to Newport Beach that we can get the harbor, then you're talking. There are a few yachts down there that would be seaworthy enough to make the trip.
drrockso20
November 8th, 2008, 09:31 PM
well I still say we should try and find a way to reach the east cost since I'd rather put my chances with the English than the Spanish
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