List alternate PMs or Presidents

[Tony]

List of Presidents of the United States of America:
35. Richard M. Nixon (R) 1961-69
36. Hubert Humphrey (D) 1969-73
37. John Wayne (R) 1973-79 [1]
38. Charles H. Percy (R) 1979-86 [2]
39. John Connally (R) 1986-91 [1]
40. Lamar Alexander (R) 1991-2001
41. Al Gore Jr (G) 2001-05
42. Angus King (A) 2005-present
[1] Died in office.
[2] Assassinated.

List of Vice Presidents of the United States of America:
35. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R) 1961-69
36. George Smathers (D) 1969-73
37. Charles H. Percy (R) 1973-79
38. John Connally (R) 1979-86
39. Howard Baker (R) 1986-89
41. Lamar Alexander (R) 1989-91
42. Paul Laxalt (R) 1991-93
43. Jack Kemp (R) 1993-2001
44. Ralph Nader (G) 2001-05
45. Ross Perot (A) 2005-present

Defeated tickets:
1960: John F. Kennedy / Stuart Symington (D)
1964: George Wallace / John F. Kennedy (D)
1968: Barry Goldwater / John Volpe (R)
1972: Hubert Humphrey / George Smathers (D)
1976: Jesse Unruh / Terry Sanford (D)
1980: Reubin Askew / Ernest Hoolings (D)
1984: Gary Hart / Walter Mondale (D)
1988: Jerry Brown / Jesse Jackson (D)
1992: Jesse Jackson / Joe Biden (D)
1996: Paul Wellstone / Bill Bradley (D)
2000: Pat Buchanan / Oliver North (R), Paul Wellstone / Dennis Kucinich (D)
2004: Al Gore / Ralph Nader (G), Hillary Rodham / John McCain (R), Dennis Kucinich / Carl Levin (D)
2008: Mike Huckabee / John E. Bush (R), William Borlaug / Winona LaDuke (G), John Edwards / Howard Dean (D)

Electoral maps:
1960:


1964:


1968:


1972:


1976:


1980:


1984:


1988:


1992:


1996:


2000:


2004:


2008:

[Thande]

Something a bit different...a list of monarchs of England, Scotland and Ireland if the Stuarts had never been deposed in the Glorious Revolution...but in a completely butterfly-proof TL.

Union of the Crowns: 1603
1603-1625: James I and VI (Stuart)
1625-1649: Charles I† (Stuart)
1649-1653: Interregnum (Rule by Council of State of English Republic)
1653-1658: Interregnum (Rule by Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell)
1658-1659: Interregnum (Rule by Lord Protector Richard Cromwell)
1659-1660: Interregnum (Rule by Council of State of English Republic)
1660-1685: Charles II (Stuart)
1685-1701: James II and VII (Stuart)
1701-1766: James III and VIII (Stuart)
1766-1788: Charles III (Stuart)
1788-1807: Henry IX and I (Stuart)
1807-1819: Charles IV (Savoy)
1819-1824: Victor (Savoy)
1824-1840: Mary III (Savoy)
1840-1875: Francis I (Austria-Este)
1875-1919: Mary IV (Austria-Este)
1919-1955: Robert I and IV (Wittelsbach)
1955-1996: Albert (Wittelsbach)
1996-present: Francis II (Wittelsbach)

[lord caedus]

Following on Thande's what-if, a surviving Bourbon dynasty in France (post-restoration), with a strong butterfly net.

Kings of France and Navarre
1814-1815: Louis XVIII (Bourbon)
1815: Rule interrupted by Emperor Napoleon (Bonaparte)
1815-1824: Louis XVIII (Bourbon)
1824-1836: Charles X (Bourbon)
1836-1844: Louis XIX (Bourbon)
1844-1883: Henry V (Bourbon)
1883-1887: John III (Bourbon)
1887-1909: Charles XI (Bourbon)
1909-1931: James I (Bourbon)
1931-1936: Charles XII (Bourbon)
1936-1941: Alphonse I (Bourbon)*
1941-1975: James II (Bourbon)
1975-1989: Alphonse II (Bourbon)
1989-: Louis XIX (Bourbon)

*- former King Alfonso XIII of Spain

[TNF]

Reagan wins in 1976 after narrowly beating Gerald Ford at the Republican National Convention, and then goes on to sweet talk the country into voting him into office rather than Jimmy Carter. Four years later, the country turns out Reagan in favor of the liberal Senator from Minnesota, Walter Mondale.

Presidents of the United States
1977-1981: Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1981-1989: Walter Mondale (Democrat)
1989-1997: George Deukmejian (Republican)
1997-2001: Carroll Campbell (Republican)
2001-2009: Dianne Feinstein (Democrat) [1]
2009-present: Tom Ridge (Republican)

[1] First woman and first Jewish person elected President.

[Rule Britannia]

Military Coup against Wilson

1968: Lord Mountbatten (MI5/Military)
1969: Edward Short (Labour)
1974: Edward Heath (Conservative)
1979: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1984: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1987: David Short (Liberals)
1992: Norman Tebbit (Nationalist)
1997: Norman Tebbit (Nationalist)
2002: David Cameron (Nationalist)
2007: Gordon Brown (Communist Labour)
2009: William Hague (Conservative)
2010: William Hague (National Tories)
2015: William Hague (National Tories)
2020: David Cameron (National Tories)

[EvilSpaceAlien]

RFK Lives/No Watergate/LBJ Runs in '68
1968: Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
-Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) / Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)
-George Wallace (AI-AL) / Curtis LeMay (AI-AR)
1972: Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
-Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) / Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)
1973: Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Robert Dole (R-KS)*
1976: Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Richard Schweicker (R-PA)
-Birch Bayh (D-IN) / Jimmy Carter (D-GA)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
-Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Richard Schweicker (R-CA)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
-Robert Dole (R-KS) / Phil Crane (R-IL)
1987: Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) / John Kerry (D-MA)**
1988: Howard Baker (R-TN) / Richard Cheney (R-WY)
-Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) / John Kerry (D-MA)
1992: Howard Baker (R-TN) / Richard Cheney (R-WY)
-Jerry Brown (D-CA) / Al Gore (D-TN)
1996: Ann Richards (D-TX) / Hubert Humphrey III (D-MN)
-Richard Cheney (R-WY) / Jack Kemp (R-TX)
2000: Ann Richards (D-TX) / Hubert Humphrey III (D-MN)
-Lamar Alexander (R-TN) / John McCain (R-AZ)
2004: John McCain (R-AZ) / George Allen (R-VA)
-William Clinton (D-AR) / Howard Dean (D-VT)
2008: Hubert Humphrey III (D-MN) / Hilda Solis (D-CA)
-John McCain (R-AZ) / George Allen (R-VA)
2012: Hubert Humphrey III (D-MN) / Hilda Solis (D-CA)
-Fred Thompson (R-TN) / Mitt Romney (R-MA)
2016: Hilda Solis (D-CA) / Martin O'Malley (D-MD)
-Scott Brown (R-MA) / Buddy Roemer (R-LO)

*Agnew resigns.
**Kennedy assassinated.

[La Grande Asperge]

A Northern Song

1968:Hubert H. Humphrey / Robert F. Kennedy (DEMOCRAT)
Richard M. Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (REPUBLICAN)
George McGovern / Benjamin Spock (PEACE)

POD: Humphrey receives the endorsement of Johnson, Sirhan Sirhan fails to hit Kennedy - who loses the primary anyway and gives Humphrey the endorsement in exchange for the VP slot. Kennedy's influence keeps the DNC convention from turning into a debacle.

Simultaneous to these events are, with a stronger and more united party, George Wallace's third party run not getting off the ground - which does well for Humphrey in the general election.

Similarly, when Eugene McCarthy gracefully accepts primary defeat, George McGovern takes up the mantle of the more radical element of the anti-war movement unwilling to follow Kennedy on compromise and a "smarter strategy in Vietnam" - having an anti-war candidate in contrast allows the Democrats to avoid any tarring on that subject from the Nixon campaign.

Martin Luther King is still assassinated, which is one of the elements that RFK uses to publicly harangue Wallace into not continuing his run into the actual election campaign season. King's movement is split between its support of RFK even after he loses the primary and its support of McGovern's third party peace run.

1972: Nelson Rockefeller / George Romney (REPUBLICAN)
Robert F. Kennedy / Shirley Chisholm (INDEPENDENT)
Hubert H. Humphrey / Ed Muskie (DEMOCRAT)
Ronald Reagan / James A. Rhodes (CONSERVATIVE)
George Wallace / Robert Byrd (AMERICAN)

The bitter primary battle between Humphrey and Kennedy, and Kennedy's second loss in a heated presidential primary, leads him to a symbolic third party run. With the Democrats renominating war-continuing Humphrey, the Northeastern wing of the Republican party manages a major coup - getting quietly anti-war candidates Rockefeller and Romney on the ticket, on a platform of wrapping things up in a responsible manner. This enrages the Western conservative wing of the party, that has in absence of Nixon from the scene grown quite radical and disorderly. Goldwater had been their man in the primaries and had lost, which pushes Reagan and the conservatives into splitting the ticket on a third party run of their own.

George Wallace's third party career has a belated start, sapping working class Democrats from Humphrey, but Kennedy forcefully gets McGovern to not split the anti-war Democratic ticket any longer - and wins back the poor and minority voters he had lost when he had made his compromise with Humphrey in '68.

Ultimately, Rockefeller has as strong a win as can be expected with so many nation-wide candidates, like Kennedy being seen as a man who can end the war responsibly; and unlike Kennedy not being a champion of the poor and minority rights. Enough conservatives, moderates, and liberals support Rockefeller to win him the White House.

Humphrey suffers the embarrassment of coming in third behind Kennedy, despite being the official Democratic candidate. This can be attributed to Kennedy's block being the type who would not vote for Wallace or wealthy Republicans like Rockefeller, while Humphrey's core supporters suffered defections to both men.

Kennedy's strong showing revives his career after the horror of losing two presidential primaries and fearing becoming a perennial candidate.

1976: Nelson Rockefeller / George Romney (REPUBLICAN)
Birch Bayh / Henry Jackson (DEMOCRAT)
Ronald Reagan / Jesse Helms (CONSERVATIVE)


With the last US troops out of Vietnam by '75, Rocky is reelected. Kennedy's personal skills and background allow him to forge three of the four major blocks of the Democrats (the poor and ethnic minorities, the Northern city machines, well to do liberals and university students) into a united party that walks with one step again, shaking hands with Henry Jackson at the DNC. Jackson carries the weight of not only the Democratic machines that supported Humphrey but also many of the working class voters Humphrey lost to Wallace, being a hawkish and strong figure with credible liberal appeal to working class issues.

Southern liberal Terry Sanford was initially made the sacrificial lamb in '76 to a wildly popular Rockefeller, but was shot by a Wallace supporter while campaigning in the South. His VP candidate, Birch Bayh, takes up his campaign and receives sympathetic support that closes what would have been a Republican landslide to a narrow gap.

Consequences of the experience include George Wallace becoming born again out of feelings of guilt and reversing his position on civil rights, and Birch Bayh never again participating in presidential politics - having stood next to Sanford as he was shot and having been greatly affected by the experience. His ad-hoc VP candidate, Henry Jackson, gains a boost of prestige from the late segment of the campaign.

1980: Robert F. Kennedy / Henry Jackson
John B. Anderson / G. Scott Romney

Without a war going on (though the influence of Henry Jackson in the Democratic party gave them hopes of being successful as a Nelson-style pro-establishment but moderately dovish party against LBJ style politics) the Rockefeller Republicans follow Senator Anderson from Illinois on a platform of electoral reform and anti-corruption, which especially takes stabs at the Democratic machines in Chicago and New York. Believing corruption allegations against Kennedy can win them the nomination, they instead alienate many inner-city voters who love the idea of reform in general but strongly identify with Kennedy in specific.

They're to be disappointed. Jackson not only does not influence Kennedy's administration, but dies before the next election, of natural causes.

Dynasty candidate, and only 39 years old to boot, Scott Romney is Anderson's VP pick.As part of the agreement of not continuing in the primary, the elderly vice president required his son to get experience and national recognition by being the vice presidential candidate.


From there things get difficult. Besides Al D'Amato and George Pataki in the 90's maybe - and dynastic Romney politics, it's hard to think of the second generation of Rockefeller Republicans in a timeline where their party is dominated by them.

[TNF]

The 'Coalition for a New Democratic Majority' led by Senator Scoop Jackson and other liberal Democrats opposed to the 'New Politics' takes control of the Democratic Party following the McGovern debacle. Basically, Hubert Humphrey completely rules out any bid for the White House in 1976, allowing Big Labor and the Democratic establishment to push through a Jackson nomination over Carter.

President Scoop Jackson is decidedly NOT President Carter. Panama Canal treaty never goes through, and the big ticket item of Jackson's administration is labor law reform, which failed IOTL. ITTL, Jackson's influence in the Senate gets the bill passed after heavy log-rolling, ending 'Right-to-work' laws across the country and increasing the organizing power of labor. Jackson further manages to scrape up a health care bill by working with Ted Kennedy and the UAW before the 1978 midterm elections. Perhaps the biggest ticket item, however, is the passage of the Humphrey-Hawkins Full Employment Act, which mandates economic planning to ensure full employment.

The Democrats hold their ground in the 1978 midterms, gaining a small net of seats despite incumbent parties' tendencies to lose seats in offyear elections. In 1979, the Iranian Hostage Crisis boils over and the added stress offs President Jackson (like his OTL stress over the downing of KAL 007 killed him) and puts Vice President Bentsen in the White House. Bentsen, significantly more moderate than his predecessor, nevertheless makes a move to the left to avoid a primary challenge from Senator Walter Mondale.

Bentsen wins re-election against Ronald Reagan following an uptick in oil prices and relatively decisive action in the Iranian Hostage Crisis as President. Bentsen is re-elected to a second term over George Bush in 1984 as a result of the booming economy, and retires from office in 1988, handing the Oval Office over to Secretary of State Jeane Kirkpatrick. . .

Presidents of the United States
1977-1979: Henry M. Jackson (Democrat) [1]
1979-1989: Lloyd M. Bentsen (Democrat)
1989-1997: Jeane Kirkpatrick (Democrat) [2]
1997-2005: Ben Stein (Republican) [3]
2005-2009: Bruce Willis (Republican)
2009-present: Bruce Springsteen (Democrat)

[1] Died in office.
[2] First woman elected President.
[3] First Jewish President.

[TNF]

Shifting around some stuff in the sixties leads to a liberal, rather than conservative, realignment in the eighties under Henry M. Jackson.

Presidents of the United States
1961-1969: Richard M. Nixon (Republican)
1969-1977: John F. Kennedy (Democrat) [1]
1977-1981: Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1981-1989: Henry M. Jackson (Democrat)
1989-1993: Jeane Kirkpatrick (Democrat) [2]
1993-2001: George Deukmeijan (Republican)
2001-2009: Tony Knowles (Democrat)
2009-present: John Thune (Republican)

[1] First Roman Catholic President.
[2] First woman elected President.

Vice Presidents of the United States
1961-1969: Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1969-1977: Terry Sanford (Democrat)
1977-1981: Richard Schweiker (Republican)
1981-1989: Jeane Kirkpatrick (Democrat) [1]
1989-1993: Ernest Hollings (Democrat)
1993-2001: Bob Packwood (Republican)
2001-2009: Richard Gephardt (Democrat)
2009-present: Dick Lugar (Republican)

[EvilSpaceAlien]

A More Progressive America
1912: Theodore Roosevelt / Hiram Johnson (P)
1916: Theodore Roosevelt / Hiram Johnson (P)
1920: Hiram Johnson / Robert M. La Follette (P)
1924: William McAdoo / Al Smith (D)
1928: William McAdoo / Al Smith (D)
1932: Herbert Hoover / Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (P)
1936: Herbert Hoover / Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (P)
1940: Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. / Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (P)
1944: Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. / Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (P)
1946: Robert M. La Follette Jr. / vacant (P) *
1948: Estes Kefauver / Thomas Dewey (D)
1952: Estes Kefauver / Thomas Dewey (D)
1956: Thomas Dewey / Joseph P. Kennedy (D)
1960: Earl Warren / Richard Nixon (P)
1964: Earl Warren / Richard Nixon (P)
1968: Joseph P. Kennedy / George Wallace (D)
1972: Joseph P. Kennedy / George Wallace (D)
1976: George Wallace / Ronald Reagan (D)
1980: Walter Mondale / John Anderson (P)
1984: Walter Mondale / John Anderson (P)
1988: John Anderson / Ronald Dellums (P)
1992: Jay Rockefeller / Arlen Specter (D)
1996: Jay Rockefeller / Arlen Specter (D)
2000: Ronald Dellums / Mark Roosevelt (P)
2004: Ronald Dellums / Howard Dean (P) **
2008: Fred Thompson / Mitt Romney (D)
2012: Mark Roosevelt / Michelle Obama (P)
2016: Mark Roosevelt / Michelle Obama (P)
2020: Michelle Obama / Robert Wexler (P)

* President Roosevelt passes away while in office
** Vice President Roosevelt declines to run for a second term, instead focusing on a gubernatiorial run in Pennsylvania

[RCAF Brat]

Canadian PM 1900-2011. POD is a delayed British entry into WWI.

Sir Wilfred Laurier 1896-1911 (Liberal)
Sir Robert Borden 1911-1915 (Conservative)
Sir Wilfred Laurier 1915-1918* (Liberal)
Sir William Lyon Mackenzie King 1918-1919 (Liberal)
Sir Arthur Meighen 1919-1922 (Conservative)
Sir William Lyon Mackenzie King 1922-1931 (Liberal)
Sir Arthur Currie 1931-1934** (Conservative)
Talbot Papineau 1934-1935 (Conservative)
Sir William Lyon Mackenzie King 1935-1941 (Liberal)
Ernest Manning 1941-1954 (Social Credit)
Thomas Douglas 1954-1961 (Social Democratic)
Lester Pearson 1961-1963 (Liberal)
Ernest Manning 1963-1970 (Social Credit)
John Turner 1970-1977 (Liberal)
Maurice Richard 1977-1985# (Social Democratic)
Harold Ballard 1985**## (Conservative)
Martin Mulroney 1985-1989 (Conservative)
Paul Martin, Jr. 1989-1993 (Liberal)
Martin Mulroney 1993-2001 (United Conservative)
Preston Manning 2001-2005 (Reform Alliance)
Eileen Edwards 2005- INC### (United Conservative)

*Died in office (stroke)
**Assassinated
#The 'Rocket' was never a hockey player ITTL, though he was obviously still a Habs fans.
##Though he wasn't the asshole owner of the Maple laughs, he still was an asshole of a businessman before going, and remained as such in politic right up until he got shot
###Though she still has the looks and the voice, Shania doesn't sing much ITTL what with her having become an RCMP officer before entering politics. Instead she's the hottest and one of the smartest leaders in the commonwealth if not in the world.

[EvilSpaceAlien]

No Watergate/Blair Goes Blue

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom
1979-1991: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1992-2002: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
2002-2011: Tony Blair (Conservative)
2011-2021: John Reid (Labour)
2021-: Ed Milliband (Labour)

Presidents of the United States
1969-1977: Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)
1977-1981: John Connally (R-TX)
1981-1989: Morris Udall (D-NM)
1989-1993: Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
1993-2001: Colin Powell (R-NY)
2001-2009: Paul Wellstone (D-MN)
2009-2013: Mitt Romney (R-MA)
2013-2021: Barack Obama (D-IL)
2021-: Scott Brown (R-MA)

Vice Presidents of the United States
1969-1973: Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD)
1973-1977: John Connally (R-TX)
1977-1981: John Ashbrook (R-OH)
1981-1989: Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
1989-1993: Ronald Dellums (D-CA)
1993-2001: Robert Dole (R-KS)
2001-2006: John Kerry (D-MA)*
2006-2009: Barack Obama (D-IL)
2009-2013: Tom Ridge (R-PA)
2013-2021: Russell Feingold (D-WI)
2021-: Jon Huntsman, Jr. (R-UT)

Secretaries of State of the United States
1969-1973: William P. Rogers
1973-1981: Henry Kissinger
1981-1982: Henry M. Jackson
1982-1990: Edmund Muskie
1990-1993: Edward M. Kennedy
1993-1998: George H.W. Bush
1998-2000: Jack Kemp
2000-2001: Arlen Specter
2001-2005: Ronald Dellums
2005-2009: William Clinton
2009-2010: Arlen Specter
2010-2013: Condoleezza Rice
2013-2017: Joseph Biden
2017-2021: Wesley Clark
2021-: Tom Ridge

Speakers of the House of Representatives
1962-1971: John W. McCormack (D-MA)
1971-1977: Carl Albert (D-OK)
1977-1987: Tip O'Neill (D-MA)
1987-1991: Jim Wright (D-TX)
1991-1994: Richard Cheney (R-WY)
1994-2003: Jim Oberstar (D-MN)
2003-2007: Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
2007-2011: John Boehner (R-OH)
2011-2019: Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
2019-: Bobby Jindal (R-LO)

Senate Majority Leaders
1961-1977: Mike Mansfield (D-MT)
1977-1983: Robert Byrd (D-WV)
1983-1985: Howard Baker (R-TN)
1985-1990: Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)
1990-1991: Al Gore (D-TN)
1991-1997: Richard Lugar (R-IN)
1997-2003: William Clinton (D-AR)
2003-2007: Russell Feingold (D-WI)
2007-2013: Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
2013-: John F. Kennedy, Jr. (D-MA)

[freethinker]

POD- FDR Jr. Becomes Governor of New York in 1956

1960- Franklin Dealno Roosevelt Jr/ John F. Kennedy Jr. (D)
1964- Franklin Dealno Roosevelt Jr/ John F Kennedy Jr. (D)
1968- Terry Sandford/Bobby Kennedy (D)
1972- Terry Sandford/Bobby Kennedy (D)
1976- Spiro Agnew/Howard Baker (R)
1980- Spiro Agnew/Howard Baker (R)
1984- Bobby Kennedy/Franklin Dealno Roosevelt III (D)
1988- Bobby Kennedy/Franklin Dealno Roosevelt III (D)
1992- Bob Dole/Pat Buchhanan (R)
1996- Al Gore/Mario Cumo (D)
2000- Al Gore/Mario Cumo (D)
2004- Dick Cheney/Tom Delay (P,C)- Passionate Conservative
2008- JFK Jr./Howard Dean [1] (D)
2012- Howard Dean/Barack Obama (D)
2016- Barack Obama/Ian Mekellen (D)
2020- Barack Obama/Ian Mekellen (D)


1- John F Kennedy Jr. Assassinated in Chicago November 16th 2010

LOSING TICKETS

1960- Richard Nixon/Henery Lodge (R)
1964- Berry Gold Walter/ Strom Thurmond (R)
1968- George Wallace/Ronold Reagan (R)
1972- Richard Nixon/John M Ashbrook (R)
1976- Bobby Kennedy/George Mc.Govern (D)
1980- Walter Mondale/Gary Heart (D)
1984- Howard Baker/Bob Dole (R)
1988- Bob Dole/Pat Robertson (R)
1992- Franklin Dealno Roosevelt III/ Micheal Dukakis (D)
1996- Bob Dole/Pat Buchanan (R)
2000- John Mccain/Dick Cheney (R)
2004 Mario Cumo/David Cobb (D)
2008- Mitt Romney/Jeb Bush (P.C)
2012- RIck Perry/Charlie Christ (P.C)
2016- Mitt Romney/ John Huntsman (P.C)
2020- Mitt Romney/ Tim Pawlenty (P.C)

[freethinker]

Originally Posted by EvilSpaceAlien

No Watergate/Blair Goes Blue

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom
1979-1991: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1992-2002: Neil Kinnock (Labour)
2002-2011: Tony Blair (Conservative)
2011-2021: John Reid (Labour)
2021-: Ed Milliband (Labour)

Presidents of the United States
1969-1977: Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)
1977-1981: John Connally (R-TX)
1981-1989: Morris Udall (D-NM)
1989-1993: Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
1993-2001: Colin Powell (R-NY)
2001-2009: Paul Wellstone (D-MN)
2009-2013: Mitt Romney (R-MA)
2013-2021: Barack Obama (D-IL)
2021-: Scott Brown (R-MA)

Vice Presidents of the United States
1969-1973: Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD)
1973-1977: John Connally (R-TX)
1977-1981: John Ashbrook (R-OH)
1981-1989: Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
1989-1993: Ronald Dellums (D-CA)
1993-2001: Robert Dole (R-KS)
2001-2006: John Kerry (D-MA)*
2006-2009: Barack Obama (D-IL)
2009-2013: Tom Ridge (R-PA)
2013-2021: Russell Feingold (D-WI)
2021-: Jon Huntsman, Jr. (R-UT)

Secretaries of State of the United States
1969-1973: William P. Rogers
1973-1981: Henry Kissinger
1981-1982: Henry M. Jackson
1982-1990: Edmund Muskie
1990-1993: Edward M. Kennedy
1993-1998: George H.W. Bush
1998-2000: Jack Kemp
2000-2001: Arlen Specter
2001-2005: Ronald Dellums
2005-2009: William Clinton
2009-2010: Arlen Specter
2010-2013: Condoleezza Rice
2013-2017: Joseph Biden
2017-2021: Wesley Clark
2021-: Tom Ridge

Speakers of the House of Representatives
1962-1971: John W. McCormack (D-MA)
1971-1977: Carl Albert (D-OK)
1977-1987: Tip O'Neill (D-MA)
1987-1991: Jim Wright (D-TX)
1991-1994: Richard Cheney (R-WY)
1994-2003: Jim Oberstar (D-MN)
2003-2007: Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
2007-2011: John Boehner (R-OH)
2011-2019: Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
2019-: Bobby Jindal (R-LO)

Senate Majority Leaders
1961-1977: Mike Mansfield (D-MT)
1977-1983: Robert Byrd (D-WV)
1983-1985: Howard Baker (R-TN)
1985-1990: Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)
1990-1991: Al Gore (D-TN)
1991-1997: Richard Lugar (R-IN)
1997-2003: William Clinton (D-AR)
2003-2007: Russell Feingold (D-WI)
2007-2013: Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
2013-: John F. Kennedy, Jr. (D-MA)

Is Clause 4 still altered in this timeline?

[joho6411]

Here are my selections: 1933-present
1933-1939 Franklin D. Roosevelt Dem.*
1939-1941 John Nance Garner Dem.
1941-1943 Cordell Hull Dem. +
1943-1953 James A. Farley Dem.(+)
1953-1961 Dwight D. Eisenhower Rep.
1961-1963 Nelson A. Rockefeller Rep. ++
1963-1973 Richard M. Nixon Rep.
1973-1981 Robert F. Kennedy Dem.
1981-1989 Ronald W. Reagan Rep.
1989-1993 George H.W. Bush Rep.
1993-2001 Mario Cuomo Dem.
2001-2009 George W. Bush Rep.


* Had non-fatal yet debilitating stroke on March 30, 1939. Died in August of 1948.
(+) First Roman Catholic President of the U.S.A. (Irish American)
+ Had massive, fatal heart attack on November 5, 1943.
++ Had massive, fatal heart attack on June 24, 1963.

[Cathcon1]

35. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
36. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
37. Spiro T Agnew (R-MD)/George Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1973-June 19th, 1974
38. George Bush (R-TX)/vacant, Gerald R Ford (R-MI) June 19th, 1974-January 20th, 1977
39. Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/George McGovern (D-SD) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
40. Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Mark O Hatfield (R-OR) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
41. Mark O Hatfield (R-OR)/vacant, Howard Baker (R-TN) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
42.Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)/Samuel Nunn (D-GA) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
43. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Colin Powell (R-NY), George W Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
44. George W Bush (R-TX)/Judd Gregg (R-NH) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2009
45. James Webb (D-VA)/Jon Tester (D-MT) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017

[Thande]

Sir Anthony Meyer manages to push Thatcher to a second round of a leadership context in 1989...

1979-1989: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1989-1991: Michael Heseltine† (Conservative) [1]
1991-1992: Geoffrey Howe (Conservative) [2]
1992-1994: Neil Kinnock (Labour minority supported by Liberal Democrats) [3]
1994-2002: John Major (Conservative)
2002-2003: Howard Flight (Conservative)
2003-2007: Howard Flight (Conservative minority supported by Liberal Democrats)
2007-present: Alan Milburn (Labour)

[1] Defeated Norman Tebbit in the leadership election after Thatcher withdrew. Killed by an IRA mortar attack on Downing Street, which also killed or hospitalised several Cabinet members.
[2] Considered a safe pair of hands.
[3] Kinnock's short-lived government fell due to the UK's exit from the ERM and the ensuing recession. Although this was (with some justice) blamed on the Tories' economic policy, the Conservatives' spin doctors ably presented this as the formerly strong economy collapsing as soon as Labour touched it. Paddy Ashdown bailed out on a sinking ship, the official reason being disagreements over Europe.

[Rule Britannia]

We should have a thread like this but for monarchs.

[Thande]

Originally Posted by Rule Britannia

We should have a thread like this but for monarchs.

I've done monarchs in this one before. You can list pretty much anything.

[Constantinople]

Originally Posted by Thande

Sir Anthony Meyer manages to push Thatcher to a second round of a leadership context in 1989...

1979-1989: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1989-1991: Michael Heseltine† (Conservative) [1]
1991-1992: Geoffrey Howe (Conservative) [2]
1992-1994: Neil Kinnock (Labour minority supported by Liberal Democrats) [3]
1994-2002: John Major (Conservative)
2002-2003: Howard Flight (Conservative)
2003-2007: Howard Flight (Conservative minority supported by Liberal Democrats)
2007-present: Alan Milburn (Labour)

[1] Defeated Norman Tebbit in the leadership election after Thatcher withdrew. Killed by an IRA mortar attack on Downing Street, which also killed or hospitalised several Cabinet members.
[2] Considered a safe pair of hands.
[3] Kinnock's short-lived government fell due to the UK's exit from the ERM and the ensuing recession. Although this was (with some justice) blamed on the Tories' economic policy, the Conservatives' spin doctors ably presented this as the formerly strong economy collapsing as soon as Labour touched it. Paddy Ashdown bailed out on a sinking ship, the official reason being disagreements over Europe.

Wow. Conservative land! I wonder how the liberal democrats survive the British political machine having been in both beds of both major parties. Did they at least get some reform?