List alternate PMs or Presidents

[EvilSpaceAlien]

Originally Posted by Snowstalker

So, ya think I should make this into a timeline?

I've enjoyed your previous work so you can consider me a reader should you choose to make TL of it.

[historybuff]

@SnowStocker: I'd like a TL like that.

[Wendell]

Originally Posted by John Fredrick Parker

PoD -- Mao's army destroyed in 1934

US Presidents
Franklin D Roosevelt (D) 1933-45
Harry Truman (D) 1945-56
Scott Lucas (D) 1957-60
Henry C Lodge (R) 1961-65*
William Stratton (R) 1965-72
Ronald Reagan (D) 1973-80
Jackie Robinson (R) 1981-88
Jay Rockefeller (R) 1989-92
Steven Spielberg (D) 1993-2000

*assassinated

Did you mean Stratton or Scranton? I've never seen the former used on a presidential list before. Impressive.

[EvilSpaceAlien]

Dewey Defeats Truman!

1948: Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren (R)
1952: Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren (R)
1956: Estes Kefauver/Adlai Stevenson (D)
1960: Adlai Stevenson/Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1964: Adlai Stevenson/Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
1965: Lyndon B. Johnson/vacant* (D)
1968: Barry Goldwater/Robert Finch (R)
1972: Barry Goldwater/Robert Finch (R)
1976: Robert F. Kennedy/George McGovern (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/George McGovern (D)
1984: George McGovern/Geraldine Ferraro (D)
1988: Jack Kemp/Bob Dole (R)
1992: Jack Kemp/Bob Dole (R)
1996: Geraldine Ferraro/Bill Clinton (D)
2000: Geraldine Ferraro/Bill Clinton (D)
2004: Colin Powell/Mitt Romney (R)
2008: Colin Powell/Mitt Romney (R)
2012: Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty (R)
2016: Martin O'Malley/Ben R. Luján (D)

*Stevenson dies from a heart attack

[EvilSpaceAlien]

1956: Adlai Stevenson/Estes Kefauver (D)
1960: Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R)
1964: Lyndon B. Johnson/Al Gore Sr. (D)
1968: Lyndon B. Johnson/Al Gore Sr. (D)
1971: Al Gore Sr./vacant (D)*
1972: Al Gore Sr./Henry M. Jackson (D)
1976: Ronald Reagan/John Connally (R)
1980: Ronald Reagan/John Connally (R)
1984: George McGovern/Jerry Brown (D)
1988: Paul Laxalt/Bob Dole (R)
1992: Paul Laxalt/Bob Dole (R)
1996: Bob Dole/John McCain
2000: Al Gore Jr./Paul Wellstone (D)
2004: Al Gore Jr. Paul Wellstone (D)
2008: Paul Wellstone/Jesse Jackson Jr. (D)
2012: Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty (R)

*Johnson dies

[glenn67]

POD: President Truman swallows his pride and agrees to give more aid to the Chinese Nationalists who win the Chinese Civil War. The Nationalists aid in defeating the Communists in Korea in 1950.

1948: Harry S Truman (D-MO)/Alben Barkley (D-KY)
1952: Harry S Truman (D-MO)/Alben Barkley (D-KY)-1
1956: William Knowland (R-CA)/H. Styles Bridges (R-NH)
1960: William Knowland (R-CA)/H. Styles Bridges (R-NH)-2
1961: William Knowland (R-CA)-3/Vacant
1962: Joseph Martin (R-MA)-4/Vacant
1964: John F. Kennedy (D-MA)-5/Richmond Flowers (D-AL)
1968: John F. Kennedy (D-MA)-6/Richmond Flowers (D-AL)
1970: Richmond Flowers (D-AL)/Otto Kerner (D-IL)
1972: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)-7/John Ashbrook (R-OH)
1975: John Ashbrook (R-OH)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)
1976: Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/James E. Carter (D-GA)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA)/James E. Carter (D-GA)
1984: James E. Carter (D-GA)/Sander Levin (D-MI)-8
1988: Howard Baker (R-TN)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1992: Howard Baker (R-TN)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1996: Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Jim Guy Tucker (D-AR)-9
2000: Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2004: John Ensign (R-NV)-10/Jim Gilmore (R-VA)
2007: Jim Gilmore (R-VA)/Dave Heineman (R-NE)
2008: Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)/Russ Feingold (D-WI)-11

1-Vice President Barkley died in early 1956
2-Vice President Bridges died in November 1961
3-Assassinated by Communist sympathizer Lee Harvey Oswald in 1962. President Knowland provided air cover in the Bay of Pigs invasion that overthrew Fidel Castro earlier that year
4-First Speaker of the House to move up to the Presidency. Did not seek reelection in 1964
5-First Roman Catholic President. Vice President Flowers previously served as Governor of Alabama (1963-1965)
6-Died of complications from Addison's disease in 1970
7-Assassinated in 1975 by Squeaky Fromme
8-First Jewish Vice President. Previously Governor of Michigan (1975-1977)
9-Vice President Tucker did not seek reelection in 2000 due to cancer
10-Resigns in 2007 after admitting extramarital affair and avoiding impeachment
11-Second Jewish Vice President

[RogueBeaver]

POD: Sanjay Gandhi flies a plane he's qualled on.

3/6. Indira Gandhi (INC): 24 January 1980- 31 October 1984*
7. Sanjay Gandhi (INC): 31 October 1984- 8 December 2001**
8. P. Chidharabam (INC): 19 December 2001- 29 September 2002
9. Narendra Mori (National): 29 September 2002-***

*Assassinated.
** Resigned, Martial law in effect from 24 June 1990 to 2 February 1993 due to Kargil War.
*** BJP banned as an "anti-national" party in 1988.

[jmberry]

Alternate constitutional Convetions ahoy!

Part 1: The Virginia Plan
National Executives of these United States

1. George Washington 1789-1795
2. John Adams 1795-1801
3. Thomas Jefferson 1801-1807
4. Samuel Smith 1807-1813
5. James Madison 1813-1819
6. James Barbour 1819-1825
7. Nathaniel Macon 1825-1831
8. John Quincy Adams 1831-1837
9. William Rufus DeVane King 1837-1843
10. Willie Person Mangum 1843-1849
11. David Rice Atchinson 1849-1855
12. Lewis Cass 1855-1861
13. Benjamin Fitzpatrick 1861-1867
14. Abraham Lincoln 1867-1873
15. Matthew Carpenter 1873-1879
16. David Davis 1879-1885
17. John James Ingalls 1885-1891
18. Isham Green Harris 1891-1897
19. Matt Whitaker Ransom 1897-1903
20. Augustus Octavius Bacon 1903-1909
21. James Paul Clarke 1909-1915
22. Albert Baird Cummins 1915-1921
23. Charles Curtis 1921-1927
24. Oscar Wilder Underwood 1927-1929*
25. -Vacant 1929-1933
26. Key Pittman 1933-1939
27. William Henry King 1939-1945
28. Kenneth McKeller 1945-1951
29. Walter Franklin George 1951-1957
30. Carl Hayden 1957-1963
31. Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963-1969
32. Richard Brevard Russel 1969-1971*
33. -Vacant 1971-1975
34. James Oliver Eastland 1975-1981
35. Milton Young 1981-1983*
36. -Vacant 1983-1987
37. John Cornelius Stennis 1987-1993
38. Thomas Stephen Foley 1993-1999
39. Trent Lott 1999-2005
40. William Harrison Frist 2005-2011
41. Tom Harkin 2011-

No Party, Constitutionalist, Republican, Nationalist, Progressive, Conservative

Consuls of the American Federal Republic

1. Thaddeus Stevens 1863-1871
2. Charles Francis Adams 1871-1879
3. John Sherman 1879-1881**
4. Solomon Foot 1881-1883
5. Allen Granberry Thurman 1883-1887
6. Russel Alexander Alger 1887-1895
7. Robert Emory Pattison 1895-1903
8. Theodore Roosevelt 1903-1911
9. William Howard Taft 1911-1915
10. Eugene Foss 1915-1919
11. Leonard Wood 1919-1927
12. Atlee Pomerene 1927-1935
13. Stephen Albion Day 1935-1939
14. James Aloysius Farley 1939-1947
15. Thomas Dewey 1947-1951
16. William Averell Harriman 1951-1959
17. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr 1959-1961**
18. William Warren Scranton 1961-1963
19. Daniel Brewster 1963-1967
20. George Romney 1967-1975
21. Nelson Rockefeller 1975-1979
22. Edmund Muskie 1979-1987
23. Joe Biden 1987-1991
24. George H.W. Bush 1991-1999
25. Bill Bradley 1999-2007
26. Mitt Romney 2007-2011
27. Christopher Dodd 2011-

Independence Party, Freedom Party

*Died in office
**Assassinated

[Meadow]

Guess the PoD

1937-1940 Neville Chamberlain (Conservative)
1940 Lord Halifax (Conservative)
1940-1970 Sir Oswald Mosley (BUF)
1970-1995 John Bean (BUF)
1995-2015 Sir Richard Branson (BUF)
2015- Sir Nicholas Clegg (BUF)

[TNF]

Originally Posted by Meadow

Guess the PoD

1937-1940 Neville Chamberlain (Conservative)
1940 Lord Halifax (Conservative)
1940-1970 Sir Oswald Mosley (BUF)
1970-1995 John Bean (BUF)
1995-2015 Sir Richard Branson (BUF)
2015- Sir Nicholas Clegg (BUF)

Britain loses the Second World War.

[Meadow]

Originally Posted by TNF

Britain loses the Second World War.

Have a sticker. It was so obvious I intended the 'Guess the PoD' to be somewhat rhetorical

[Meadow]

Clive the ASB swaps all Opposition Leaders with PMs. How would this play out?

Winston Churchill (Conservative) 1945-1951
Clement Attlee (Labour) 1951-1955
Hugh Gaitskell (Labour) 1955-1963*
Harold Wilson (Labour) 1963-1964
Sir Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative) 1964-1965
Edward Heath (Conservative) 1965-1970
Harold Wilson (Labour) 1970-1974
Edward Heath (Conservative) 1974
Margaret Thatcher (Conservative) 1974-1979
James Callaghan (Labour) 1979-1980
Michael Foot (Labour) 1980-1983
Neil Kinnock (Labour) 1983-1992
John Smith* (Labour) 1992-1994
Tony Blair (Labour) 1994-1997
William Hague (Conservative) 1997-2001
Iain Duncan-Smith (Conservative) 2001-2003
Michael Howard (Conservative) 2003-2005
David Cameron (Conservative) 2005-2010
Harriet Harman (Labour) 2010
Ed Miliband (Labour) 2010-present

*Died in office.

[RogueBeaver]

Hamilton Plan

Governors of the United States

George Washington (I-VA): April 30, 1789-December 17, 1799
John Adams (F-MA): December 17, 1799- October 4, 1825
Andrew Jackson (L-TN): October 4, 1825- June 8, 1845
Lewis Cass (L-MI): June 8, 1845- April 1, 1865
William Seward (N-NY): April 1, 1865- October 10, 1872
Samuel Tilden (L-MI): October 10, 1872- December 1, 1888
James Blaine (N-ME): December 1, 1888- July 7, 1890
Grover Cleveland (L-NY): July 7, 1890- August 10, 1905
Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY): August 10, 1905- June 30, 1923
Carter Glass (L-VA): June 30, 1923- May 19, 1945
Harry S. Truman (P-MO): May 19, 1945- February 1, 1964
Richard Nixon (L-CA): February 1, 1964- June 11, 1992
Newt Gingrich (L-GA): June 11, 1992-present

Liberal: First Bourbon Democratic, then OTL's Republicans after 1950.

[Tony]

POD: Yang Shangkun and Wan Li ultimately sided with Zhao Ziyang, as a result an alternate Tiananmen
Notable changes from OTL:
1. Chinese democraticization
2. the Japanese economic bubble did not burst until the Asian Financial Crisis (1997-98)
3. 2nd Korean War (1998-2001) after North Korea went bankrupt without Chinese aid
4. OTL global recession did not come ITTL until May 2010 when GM files for bankruptcy protection

Prime Ministers of the Federal Republic of China:
1. Hu Qili (PPC) 1992-97
2. Bao Tong (PPC) 1997-98
3. Wei Jingshen (DPC) 1998-99 (Grand Coalition)
4. Wu Yi (PPC) 1999-2007
5. Wen Jiabao (PPC) 2007-10
6. Li Yuanchao (PPC) 2010
7. Li Lu (DPC) 2010-

Presidents of the Federal Republic of China:
1. Yang Shangkun (PPC) 1991-96
2. Zhu Rongji (PPC) 1996-2006
3. Hu Deping (PPC) 2006-11
4. Gao Xingjian (DPC) 2011-

DPC=Democratic Party of China, formed by former dissidents and student leaders
PPC=People's Party of China, successor of the Communist Party

Presidents of the United States of America:
41. George H. W. Bush (R) 1989-93
42. Bill Clinton (D) 1993-97
43. Colin Powell (R) 1997-2005
44. John Edwards (D) 2005-10 (impeached)
45. Joe Biden (D) 2010-

Prime Ministers of Japan:
75. Masayoshi Ito (LDP) 1989-90
76. Toshiki Kaifu (LDP) 1990-91
77. Michio Watanabe (LDP) 1991-93
78. Tsutomu Hata (LDP) 1993
79-80. Shintaro Ishihara (LDP) 1993-98
81-82. Ichiro Ozawa (NFP->DPJ) 1998-2003
83. Hirohisa Fujii (DPJ) 2003-05
84-85. Junichiro Koizumi (LDP) 2005-09 (assassinated)
86. Yoichi Masuzoe (LDP) 2009-11
87. Seiji Maehara (DPJ) 2011-present

Presidents of South Korea:
6. Roh Tae-woo (DJP->DLP) 1988-93
7. Kim Young-sam (DLP->GNP) 1993-98
8. Kim Dae-jung (Democratic) 1998-2003
9. Kim Geun-tae (Democratic) 2003-08
10. Han Myeong-sook (Democratic) 2008-

President of the Governing Council of North Korea:
Thomas A. Schwartz 2001-03

President of the Transitional Government of North Korea:
(appointed by the President of South Korea)
1. Hwang Jang-yop 2003-08
2. Lee Ae-ran 2008-

British Prime Ministers:
Margaret Thatcher (Conservative) 1979-90
John Major (Conservative) 1990-95
Michael Portillo (Conservative) 1995-97 (lost his own seat)
Tony Blair (Labour) 1997-2010
David Miliband (Labour) 2010-

Presidents of the Philippines:
11. Corazon Aquino (PDP-LABAN/UNIDO) 1986-92
12. Fidel V. Ramos (Lakas–NUCD–UMDP) 1992-98
13. Renato de Villa (Lakas-NUCD-UMDP) 1998-2004
14. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (Lakas kampi CMD) 2004-10
15. Mar Roxas (Liberal) 2010-

[historybuff]

Sounds like it'd make an interesting TL Tonykwak.

[Joshua Ben Ari]

List of Israeli Prime Ministers

David Ben Gurion (14 May 1948-26 January 1954) (Mapai)
Moshe Sharett (26 January 1954-3 November 1956) (Mapai)
David Ben-Gurion (3 November 1956-26 June 1963) (Mapai)
Levi Eshkol (26 June 1963-26 February 1969) (Mapai/Alignment)
Yigal Allon (26 February 1969-17 March 1969) (Alignment)
Golda Meir (17 March 1969-3 June 1974) (Alignment)
Yitzhak Rabin (3 June 1974-20 June 1977) (Alignment)
Menachem Begin (20 June 1977-10 October 1983) (Likud)
Yitzhak Shamir (5 August 1983-13 September 1984) (Likud)
Elie Wiesel (13 September 1984-20 October 1986) (Likud)
Yitzhak Shamir (20 October 1986-13 July 1992) (Likud)
Elie Wiesel (13 July 1992-18 June 1996) (Likud)
Shimon Peres (18 June 1996-6 July 1999) (Labor)
Elie Wiesel (6 July 1999-28 February 2003) (Likud)
Ariel Sharon (28 February 2003-14 April 2006) (Likud)
Michael Harish (14 April 2006-31 March 2009) (Labor)
Benyamin Netanyahu (31 March 2009-present) (Likud)

List of Israeli Presidents

Chaim Weizmann (17 May 1948-9 November 1952) (Independent)
Yitzhak Ben-Zvi (9 November 1952-23 April 1963) (Mapai)
Zalman Shamar (23 April 1963-24 May 1973) (Mapai)
Ephraim Katzir (24 May 1973-29 May 1978) (Mapai)
Yitzhak Navon (29 May 1978- 5 May 1983) (Mapai)
Chaim Herzog (5 May 1983-13 May 1993) (Mapai)
Ezer Weizman (13 May 1993-13 July 2000) (Mapai)
Elie Wiesel (13 July 2000-13 July 2007) (Likud)
Ariel Sharon (13 July 2007-present) (Likud)

List of General Secretaries of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union

Joseph Stalin (3 April 1922-16 October 1952)
Nikitia Khrushchev (16 October 1953- 14 October 1964)
Leonid Brezhnev (14 October 1964-22 January 1969)
Alexei Kosygin (22 January 1969-10 October 1980)
Yuri Andropov (10 October 1980-10 March 1984)
Mikhail Gorbachev (10 March 1984- 23 March 1997)
Alexander Lebedev (23 March 1997-8 May 2009)
Vladimir Potanin (8 May 2009-present)

[John Fredrick Parker]

Originally Posted by Wendell

Did you mean Stratton or Scranton? I've never seen the former used on a presidential list before. Impressive.

I meant Stratton, Governor of Illinois

[John Fredrick Parker]

I did this same PoD months back, but I figured it could use a revamp:

Woodrow Wilson (1913-20) (D)
Leonard Wood (1921-26) (R)*
Warren Harding (1926-32) (R)
Al Smith (1933-40) (D)
Theodore Roosevelt Jr (1941-43) (R)**
Herbert Hoover (1943-46) (R)*
Thomas Dewey (R) (1946-52)
Hubert Humphrey (1953-60) (D)
Harold Stassen (1961-68) (R)
Henry Fonda (1969-80) (D)
John Anderson (1981-88) (R)

*died in office
**assassinated

[President_Gore]

No Brighton Bombing

Margaret Thatcher, 1979 - 1989
Norman Tebbit, 1989 - 1992
Neil Kinnock, 1992 - 1997
Michael Portillo, 1997 - 2004
Tim Yeo, 2004 - 2005
Alan Johnson, 2005 - present

[anarchjoe]

Ruling parties of the UK/ prime ministers
STV gets used in almost all constituencies in the UK in 1917
1918 Andrew Bonar Law- coalition liberal conservative coalition
1920 Andrew Bonar Law Conservative minority government
1921 H.H asquith National liberal- Labour coalition
1924 David Lloyd George National liberal-liberal coalition
1925 Stanley Baldwin*- Conservative party
1929 Andrew Bonar Law Conservative party
1930 Ramsay Mcdonald Liberal- progressive party ILP coalition
1933 Ramsay Mcdonald liberal party minority government
1935 Winston Churchill Conservative BUF coalition
1939 Winston Churchill Conservative national government**
1946 Aneurin Bevin Labour-British communist party coalition
1948 Aneurin Bevin Labour- liberal coalition***
1950 Clement davies Liberal - UK progressive party coalition
1953 Hugh Gaskitell Labour - Liberal coalition
1958 Hugh Gaskitell Labour socialist party
1960 Eric Arthur Blair Labour CND coalition
1963 Eric Arthur Blair Labour majority government****
1965 Harold Wilson Labour - Millitant party New communist party coalition*****
1967 Louis Montbatten****** British revival party
1972 Margret Thatcher******* BRP
1978 Tony Benn UK freedom coalition
1982 Tony Benn UK freedom coalition
1986 John Smith radical freedom party-socialist coalition
1990 John smith******** radical freedom party green coalition
1993 George galloway solidarity party- levellers party
1997 Tony Blair New liberal party UKFC coalition
2001 Tony Blair New liberal party, party of the centre coalition
2003 Caroline Lucas left party, levellers party, green coalition
2006 Mark Chadwick Levellers party Green coalition
2009 Adrian Ramsay Green- left coalition
2010 Nick clegg centre- Democratic party coalition
Notes and key to symbols
2010 elections % seats and party description
centre party 25% Strong all over but particuarly with those who want an alternative to left wing parties but like the social welfare programmes
Democratic party 24% centre right(as far right as you can go without people hating you)
Levellers party 17%- strong in the south east, particularly so around Brighton far Left and very socially liberal party
Green party 14% strong all over but fight for seats with the levellers party
Party
Radical freedom party 10% marxist
left party 6% marxist leninist
others 5%
*Government collapses and new election is held
**BUF leaves the coalition at protest about WWII being declared on Germany the conservative party permantly splits and Winston Churchill is left to rule with the support of other parties
*** Communist party leaves when relations sour with the soviet union
**** The bomb is banned so CND joins the labour party
***** Assasinated in a coup as the aristocrats got fed up to the back teeth of Britain being too leftist
****** removed in an internal power struggle
******* Removed due to countrywide revolt
******** Dies due to a massive stroke