WI: The Anglo-Russian War of 1848

[General_Finley]

After restoring order to the the Principalities of Moldova and Wallachia, Tsar Nicholas I demanded for his services a new convention with the Ottoman Empire to increase Russian control over the territories. Suspecting that the Russians intended to annex the principalities, Stratford Canning urged the Ottomans to stand firm against the Russians. Canning called on Foreign Secretary Palmerston to send the fleet to demonstrate British support for the Ottoman Empire, but Palmerston trusted the that the Tsar would not annex the principalities. Without British support the Ottomans were forced to negotiate with the Russians, but what if Palmerston had sent the fleet and the British had supported the Ottomans? It's clear by Nicholas's actions that led to the Crimean War and by his lecture of the British envoy to St Petersburg a year later that if the British had supported the Ottomans it would have led to war between Britain and Russia. How different might this war have been from the the Crimean War? What consequences might this war have on the revolutions in Europe? The Austrians need the Russians in order to put down the Hungarian revolution, might this mean Austrian involvement in the War? Is France in any kind of position to aid Britain?

[MarshalBraginsky]

Hungary is so going to gain her independence if Russia is too busy fighting he British over Ottoman territories. Worst cast scenario, an 1848 version of the Crimean War resulting in an even bigger Russian defeat but the upside to this would be a long road to enacting reforms.

[General_Finley]

Originally Posted by MarshalBraginsky

Hungary is so going to gain her independence if Russia is too busy fighting he British over Ottoman territories. Worst cast scenario, an 1848 version of the Crimean War resulting in an even bigger Russian defeat but the upside to this would be a long road to enacting reforms.

How much worse could an 1848 version of the Crimean War be considering France won't be in the fight?

[MarshalBraginsky]

Originally Posted by General_Finley

How much worse could an 1848 version of the Crimean War be considering France won't be in the fight?

Besides the Ottomans, how about Prussia trying to stir up the Poles while Russia is at war with Britain? There are a lot of things that could go downhill for every European nation.

[lukedalton]

Originally Posted by MarshalBraginsky

Hungary is so going to gain her independence if Russia is too busy fighting he British over Ottoman territories. Worst cast scenario, an 1848 version of the Crimean War resulting in an even bigger Russian defeat but the upside to this would be a long road to enacting reforms.

Not counting Italy, if the Hasburg are too occupied Charles Albert can conquer Lombadia-Venetia and keep it (plus the various minor ducats)

[General_Finley]

Originally Posted by lukedalton

Not counting Italy, if the Hasburg are too occupied Charles Albert can conquer Lombadia-Venetia and keep it (plus the various minor ducats)

With Austria loosing control of Hungary and its Italian possessions might we see the survival of the Erfurt Union and the formation of a German Empire in 1850?

[MarshalBraginsky]

Originally Posted by General_Finley

With Austria loosing control of Hungary and its Italian possessions might we see the survival of the Erfurt Union and the formation of a German Empire in 1850?

Possibly, but which side would Hungary be with? Say if the Anglo-Russian 1848 War ends in a British victory, there will be an anti-British sentiment that may run along the lines of French revanchism against Germany IOTL. Russia in this case, could either turn to the new German Empire or enter into an alliance with Qing China.